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MikeC11 (North Carolina)
Posts: 10
Posted:
The Developer has stoped paying his subsidy to HOA. We have a written agreement, signed, sealed, for them not to raise dues and continue subsidy until control of the HOA is turned over to us. Consequently, they are raising our dues over 60% in one year. They are the Declarant/Board of Directors what can we do ?If we don't pay our grass won't be cut, etc. Were between a rock and a hard place. Besides a lawsuit what can we do in the interim. Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
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Posted By MikeC11 on 12/05/2008 4:56 PM
The Developer has stoped paying his subsidy to HOA. We have a written agreement, signed, sealed, for them not to raise dues and continue subsidy until control of the HOA is turned over to us. Consequently, they are raising our dues over 60% in one year. They are the Declarant/Board of Directors what can we do ?If we don't pay our grass won't be cut, etc. Were between a rock and a hard place. Besides a lawsuit what can we do in the interim. Any thoughts or suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Mike,

Generally speaking, while the developer (declarant) is in control of the assn, he usually can do as he wishes. If he has raised the assessments I urge you to pay them! Do not withhold payment as a form of protest. Delinquencies can result in legal action taken against you and can result in foreclosure. It is NEVER a good idea to withhold payment of your assessments.

Generally what happens is while the declarant is in control of the assn if there are any shortfalls he makes up for them; but as more homes are built and more assessments being paid the need for him to put more money into the assn dwindles. Exactly what is this written agreement regarding a subsidy?

If NC has HOA laws, perhaps you will get lucky and find one that puts a cap on raising assessments. Otherwise, there really isn't much that you can do. You mention a lawsuit; but IMO that isn't an option unless the developer has broken some law.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
MaryA is telling the bare truth and correct on all counts.

It may help and would certainly make you all feel better if you all had some knowledge of what the developer is trying to do. I suspect you have an interim Board that is top heavy with management appointees. Do you have any owner members? If so, what do they say?

Since you have an agreement signed by the developer and the other party is who? Does the other party have the right to represent you and how did that happen? If this agreement has been distributed with sales promotions given to each individual owner on purchase, I strongly suggest you get legal council to look at it. It may not be worth anything but it is worth a shot. If you have no members on the Board you feel comfortable with, form your own group and call is anything that signifies you represent who your members are. Select some ( a couple) to go to developer and try to work out some method of sitting down at the table and getting this all in the open. Personally, if I thought the developer was trying to fleece you all, I would let it be known, you don't fleece easily and you will follow other evenues of resolution.

Right now, get your information and double check how accurate it is. Anything in writing that would support an objection to the dues increase. Make sure you read all his sales blurbs about offering the association for sale to the public.

I agree the developer has the right in most cases to damn near do all he wants, but he can not promise you one thing and do the other with out question. Offer a compromise, never a bad gambit.
MikeC11 (North Carolina)
Posts: 10
Posted:
In our AOI, the class B Membership (declarant) was supposed to cease and be converted to class A Membership on December 31, 2006. But, we the homeowners(67%) allowed the Developer to annex a piece of property and extend the Declarants control to 2011. Provided there would be now dues increases and they wouold continue to subsidize the Hoa Expenses. They have stoped subsidizing, and they want to increase our dues 60% to make up the difference. Our street lights have been cut of, water to clubhouse, irrigation, etc. Anotherwords, they want the contol but aren't willing to pay their agreed share. Yes, we have a viable lawsuit, but what do we due in the interim to maintain our HOA with them in control. We could band together to make up for their lack of subsidies, but we don't want them to maintain control as our Board of Directors. Any suggestions ?
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
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Mike,
Well, I am not sure I have any idea what you all have done other that to enter into a very bad contract. What were you thinking? I can't imagine anyone agreeing to something like this (if I understand anything) other than you all thought you could outslick Mr. Slick. No one here is going to advise you on a contract they have never seen and I, for one, would not advise you if I had a copy of such a document. It really doesn't matter as you are asking, what can you all do to stop the bleeding. This is Saturday, I would not let Monday come unless you have a Town Meeting and have elected a few representatives of your newly formed concerned homeowners group to hire legal (the very best HOA Lawyer with no ties to this developer)you can find. By next week you should have had a meeting with this lawyer, a retainer paid and a suit filed by him to petition a judge to examine your case. I am not sure my step by step is the way to go in NC, but any action that gets your group before a Judge is how to go. As advised in previous post you have to pay your dues as proscribed by developer IF you have bound yourself to the developer. All of what you are saying sounds shaky ground to me, and if H. Clinton came on this site and gave a "how to" get out of this, my next step would still be to hire a GOOD Lawyer. God knows who you have picked for a bedfellow, but it don't look good from here, and it is going to be a bad morning after..

Just my Humble opinion, and I am glad of that.
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Mike,
Incidentally Mike, keep this all on one thread. You are going to do nothing but add to the confusion otherwise.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Mike - you need a real estate lawyer ASAP to get an injunction and get your basic amentities turned back on.

As the court to appoint someone to figure out what's going on with your dues monies.

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