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IgnacioZ (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
Our association has problem with fees not being paid amount very high +15K. Due to the shortage of funds we are having trouble paying the water bill.The city is threatening to shut the water off. we managed to pay part of it. The manager sugested to shut the landscape irrigation off for quite a while and stop the landscape company for their service temporarily. Now the Trees are very dry ther is dry bushes everywhere we have small hills behind us part of the association and people are complaining that this is a fire hazard, I agree so I took my water hose and watered the area immediately behind me as well as the trees to keep them slightly green, and avoid them drying up I also planted some plants so I can keep the dirt in place from having bare dirt and washing away, my main concern is can they force the issue that water stays off to keep cost down? Does this go against any fire hazard regulation.
KarenS11 (Florida)
Posts: 148
Posted:
As a long-term solution, you might see if reducing the size of the meters is an option. We are in the process of determining if we could do this without the lowered pressure affecting the areas reached by our irrigation system.

In our case, doing so would cost a one-time fee to change out the meter of $200, which would be recouped in just under a year. The savings of $200 would continue indefinately.

Has anyone else done this? We have received differing opinions from irrigation companies and are thinking of trying it on one zone to see if it works.

In our case-

Annual Water Meter Fee- 3/4" meter-$202.33 1" meter- $223.71
IgnacioZ (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
Actually we have inquired about sub-meter but the problem is the most of the buildings have 8 units four in front and back to back other four. If I remember correct the person that looked in to it said only a sub meter would do two units being back to back so it would measure two at a time and hard to tell two owners they owe certain amount when one could say the other one uses more water. The other thing was probably re doing the pipes in the walls. This would be very costly I suppose.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
You ARE talking about drinking water, right?

You must provide drinking water to residents!

Anything else is besides the point.

Re-do your landscape for drought resistant plants and gravel & stone landscape.

DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Add Xeriscaping, using natives and rocks that require little or no water. The real thing to do is just as you have done. Take your own hose and water the trees. If every owner did this for a short time, then this would lessen the impact on the HOA. I learned in Xeriscaping that mass irrigation wastes almost as much water as it successfully uses. Spot watering is much more beneficial.
IgnacioZ (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
No i am referring to landscape, there are many eucalyptus trees various bushes and trees & ice plant but it is all drying up, isn't this a fire hazard can we be forced by the association not to water the area with the sprinklers that are on a timer around the complex? I myself water the plants I with the water hose, but even that they are trying to prohibit me. The landscape in the common are is on separate valve shut off, and each unit has their own faucet in front for their use so I use this to water the landscape in back of my unit. Is it against safety regulations to just stop completely the irrigation of common landscape so it will dry up and cause a hazard?
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Soaker hoses are best. Just cutting back the watering schedule would help, too.

Ask the fire dept. to come in and help you with your fire hazard concern.
They should be able to tell you how to reduce the liklihood of fire-hazardous landscape.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Ignacio,

The suggestions of your PM are just putting a band-aid on your overall problem. In another thread you mentioned the delinquency problem that has created a shortfall in your operating fund. The suggestions promoted on this thread to reduce water useage are all cost prohibitive since your assn doesn't have any $$$ to play around with at all. As I suggested in the other thread, the board needs to raise the assessments and even ask for a special assessment to address the immediate problem. Then they need to enforce the collection policy to ensure that collection steps are being taken for all delinquencies.
IgnacioZ (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
Correct this is what I agree with, but to prohibit of watering at all even my own immediate plants? I think it's going to far.
IgnacioZ (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
I am not to sure what you mean cost prohibited, is this mean that they are correct in prohibiting any watering permanently to include personal plants in back yard>
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
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Posted By IgnacioZ on 11/02/2008 10:26 AM
I am not to sure what you mean cost prohibited, is this mean that they are correct in prohibiting any watering permanently to include personal plants in back yard>

Ignacio,

In using the term "cost prohibitive" I meant the suggestions given should not be considered as the assn does not have the money required to undertake them. Purchasing new meters and changing the landscaping to xeriscape (although this may be something the board may want to consider in the future) both costs $$$ the assn doesn't have.

Since the assn supplies all the units with water the board has decided to limit your personal use of water also. Just be glad they've only limited that use to watering plants!
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
I would suggest going to a Board meeting. In stopping all watering you are trading one problem for two others.

First, as you mentioned it becomes a fire hazard. But also you have a problem of curb appeal. You are destroying the value of your investment. Your Board definitely needs to get a handle on the account receivables.

If it were me, I would sooner ditch management then irrigation.
IgnacioZ (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
I like your responses it has been very helpful, I only signed-up yesterday and you guys are very quick in responses. I will come back with more questions later as I get them, this site is very helpful. Thanks.
IgnacioZ (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
I just have one question, you say reducing the size of meter. Is this the actual physical size of meter? What does this do exactly?

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