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DanaB1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 319
Posted:
Let me start by saying our President has gotten a handle on the finances, gotten us a new management company, addressed the chimney issues, gotten the siding project done, and managed to get the other board members to at least stay awake during meetings.

He's the best!

(President) Dana

Is this what you mean't Donna?
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Yes, this is what I mean. My President took over the Master Association when we had a goofball for a Master President. He got rid of the "special people"(those in the Estates section) attitude, as we are created equal. This was quite the task. We finally got resolution about a major infrastructure fault from the Developer with the HOA coming out on top. Got R&Rs written, an ARC manual and got all 3 of the sub associations represented equally. Kudos to that man. Did we have a hiccup in the road. Yup!. He inherited the lawsuit against the Cadillac Escallades EXTs. We lost that but when the lawyer wanted to go back because the Judge made a huge error, he said NO! ENOUGH is ENOUGH.

(Little side story here) Both of the guys with the trucks that the HOA went after are gone. One in bankrupcy and the other has a Federal Tax lein against him and his house is unsold and empty)
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
We are just getting started, but we did have the first National Night Out gathering for our neighborhood. We also have calmed some of the demeanor of our property nazi (I mean manager).

We are in the process of putting together a proposal for adding to our common areas.

As a note, our turnover meeting was in May.
DanaB1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 319
Posted:
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Posted By KirkW1 on 10/25/2008 6:27 PM
We are just getting started, but we did have the first National Night Out gathering for our neighborhood. We also have calmed some of the demeanor of our property nazi (I mean manager).

We are in the process of putting together a proposal for adding to our common areas.

As a note, our turnover meeting was in May.

Hi Kirk,

How was the turn out for the National Night Out?

And how does one add to the common areas, do you mean your buying adjoining property?

Dana
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

GEORGE!!!,
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Where's your list on this thread? The post on the "bad things that Boards do is very extensive so I expect that you might be able to find a few good things to add to this list--YES?
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
Our intent is to buy one of the four empty lots and turn it into a mini-park. We actually have have two neighborhoods that are a quarter mile apart. One of the two has no common area. They have been paying about a third of upkeep for the other neighborhood's entrance. The particular lot also has caused some problems so it will hit several levels at once.
JohnK3 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 967
Posted:
Our first activist Board was installed in June, 2007. (Disclaimer - I'm the S/T).
Status:

We released our PM in favor of self-management, a PM which ate up virtually 1/3 of our annual dues.

We have gone from maybe 15% +30 day delinquent dues to virually no delinquencies.

We have virtually no complaints from our Membership about anything.

We provide regular Updates on virtually everything, including every nickle that comes in or goes out.

We have saved Membership additional money, biggest step making annual audits optional at Membership's direction.

We took up Community123.com on their recent offer and will soon have a web site.

We will lower dues, for the first time in our 8 years, in 2009.

We are the champions of the HOA world (at least to Membership).

DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:


Congratulations John, Good job to your Board.
This is what I mean, that there are people on Boards who are working their brains out, trying to make their HOA a better running place, We only hear about the bad ones and if I were to do the research, I'd bet that I would find as many good as bad.

It depends on who you talk to. The loudest ones are the ones who violate covenants, can't grasp that you need to follow the rules and don't ever read their documents before they buy into a HOA.

The lawyers love these kinds of people as they are easy money and most are willing to spend good cash to find out that they are incorrect in what they are fighting against. All of the legislature in the world will never make this go away. BEING STUPID IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

JohnK3 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 967
Posted:
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Posted By DonnaS on 10/26/2008 10:58 AM

Congratulations John, Good job to your Board.
This is what I mean, that there are people on Boards who are working their brains out, trying to make their HOA a better running place, We only hear about the bad ones and if I were to do the research, I'd bet that I would find as many good as bad.

It depends on who you talk to. The loudest ones are the ones who violate covenants, can't grasp that you need to follow the rules and don't ever read their documents before they buy into a HOA.

The lawyers love these kinds of people as they are easy money and most are willing to spend good cash to find out that they are incorrect in what they are fighting against. All of the legislature in the world will never make this go away. BEING STUPID IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW.


Thank you, Donna.

I'd also add to your comments that the Loudest are often the Most Least Likely to step up to the plate (GO PHILLIES!) to volunteer their time to make their communities better. Sitting back and only giving Bronx Cheers is much easier than picking up the old rosin bag (GO PHILLIES!), rubbing the ball and getting one's hands soiled.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:


As my Mama used to say--"AN EMPTY BARREL MAKES THE MOST NOISE"
DanaB1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 319
Posted:
And my pappy used to say, "The mouse is always quietest after the trap has sprung!"

Knowing what their complaints will be going in will help you make them look silly. There are so many issues that a board has to deal with and as a good board member you should know them all. That means you have a plan and that puts you in control.

No matter what an owner gripes about you should have an answer that can shut them down.

Maybe I'm getting bold but I really think we've thought of everything and are now addressing it or will address it as funds become available.

My main concern is still the shortfall in reserves due to lack of proper funding in the association's first 24 years.

Dana
DanaB1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 319
Posted:
Sorry, I mean't to edit out the "make them look silly" part. I'm not that mean. I had put that in as an attempt at humor but I decided against it.

They are just confused, misguided individuals that want to be heard.

Dana
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Dana,

You are so right in that when a member goes on the attack or just asks a reasonable question, a good board member needs to know many answers. Number 1, your own documents should be at least understandable to you. At first, it was nothing but lots of lawyer words. Rereading them a few times sorted out what they meant.

Number 2, Know what a Boards limitations are in following the State HOA Statutes. Those are actually easier than the developements documents. Again, they need to be read a few times.

Number 3, Work together as a single board unit. Division will kill the flow of cross information and communication. Pay attention to what really is happening within the community so that when you get blind sided by an irate homeowner, you know what they are angry about.

Number 4, Be prepared. A Board members job is not for 2 hours a month or whenever meetings are held. Keep on top of the job that the P.M. is doing or committee meetings being held. Act as a liason because you have the right to do so.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:


My Master Board Pres. was a semi short fused Italian--but very smart. I was assigned the job of sitting next to him at meetings. Very occasionally, you could see my hand quietly get on top of his and I would let him know with a death grip that he needed to rein himself in. He knew what it meant and he was smart enough to know and respect that he cannot allow himself to become part of any dialoge that could jepordize his self control with an audience member. Every time that it happened , it was because of some smart mouthed member who wanted to take the Board down. BTW, it never happened because -- repeat--"an empty barrel makes the most noise"
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Well, we HAVE gotten some long delayed improvements - repaved one street and the parking lots on another. When we replaced the roofs (due to a hailstorm two years ago), we also worked with our contractor in finding more damage than the adjuster did - that lead to some siding work, as well.

We have a new layout for our newsletter (which I help edit, so some of this DOES sound self serving). However, the information is better organized, thanks in part to a copywriter friend who's sent me several valuable tips (now if only we had the money for color!)

One of our Board members went to Keep Indianapolis Beautiful and we got some donated flowers for the community, and she also helped bring in a summer lunch program. It doesn't cost the Association anything and is very beneficial to our residents. She also helped us find a new landscaping service company that's run by a non-profit organization that works with young people. We hope that not only will the Association save money, but help the community by keeping some kids busy.

We still have tons of challenges, but I think most of the members of the board are trying to "think outside the box" in finding solutions to our problems. Previously, we let the Board president do a lot of things, partially because it sounded like it made sense and no one else was interested in doing it. However, we learned the hard way that this leads to micromanaging AND burnout (he resigned the day after one meeting where we voted to write off some accounts we couldn't collect). Our current president works her tail off, but she's also had health issues and is helping to raise a granddaughter, so that forces the rest of us to step up and help.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Sheliah,
That's what I'm talking about. Someone getting the ball rolling and setting goals to improve their HOA and living spaces. Congratulations and keep on top of it. I think like all things in life, there are ups and downs but we must keep an even keel even when things look bad. Tennacity, perserverance, and just plain guts is all that it takes. Good Job.
DanaB1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 319
Posted:
Donna, I have a board of 5 women and not a one of them holds my hand. Dang it! Just how lucky is that guy!

Sheliah, your thinking outside the box is proving to be quite valuable.

Dana

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