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MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
New technologies - This is addressed to anyone who resides in a townhome or condo community where is reserved parking. Residents do not own the spaces, but they are assigned common area spaces. Our residents are now purchasing these cycle shelters for their motocycles. They are very large and ugly (IMO). We still don't know whether there is any other consequences to having them. Will they blow away when not in use and damage other property? Is the resident storing other items here? Is there a fire hazard here? They are basically a large tent with frame with a floor. We don't know if it's anchored to the pavement or not. You can't really tell if there IS or ISN't a motorcyle parked inside the unit. We don't seem to have anything in the docs that addresses this either directly or indirectly. Does anyone else have any experience with this recently in their community? See link.
http://www.goodguyspowersports.com/proddetail.php?prod=cycleshelter&gclid=CPK3oq6UvpYCFQJvswodTEJCyw
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Outdoor storage of a vehicle - boat, bike, snowmobile, jet ski - all should be under the same guidelines.

Do your CCRs cover this "outside storage of vehicles" subject?
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Also, No temporary structures or buildings such as /tents/campers or motor homes might be worded in the documents. Almost every set that I have ever seen has that listed as non allowed.
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
Susan - Our community has hundreds of reserved spaces (2 assigned to each resident) and then 111 visitor spaces. Our docs are very specific and we even have a parking resolution that addresses everything under the sun that you cannot park in the community, but this is sort of a new technology. Did you look at the pics in the link? Here's what our Parking docs say and there's nothing there to keep anyone from using this framed tent that I can see. Check it out if you wish. http://www.unionmills.com/resolutions/Park%20Res%2004.pdf
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
There is a valid reason to be concerned about how this would be anchored. It would appear that the thing stays in a single location when the cycle is removed. And you have to wonder what holds it there. You certainly want to ensure that there won't be a problem created with the anchor.

As to the concern about storing other things, I don't know why you are so concerned with this. Based on your logic, we should also be concerned because we don't know what people have in their cars. Or what they store in their closets.

Presumably, these would be used by people who own motorcycles. And they will open the things as they take the bikes in and out. There just isn't a lot of room for extra stuff there.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Lipstick on a pig . . .

It is STILL a covered/stored vehicle and your documents need to speak to them.

This is why it is NOT a good idea to try to list EVERY possible thing when writing governing doouments that prohibit something. Write globally, think specific.

"Covered or stored vehicles" is the main category.

Do your bylaws allow them?

GloriaM (North Carolina)
Posts: 829
Posted:
Sounds like this would fall under ARC review as well as what Donna stated within your CCR's.
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Mike if you can't find anything in the ARC to cover this, then I would suggest that these could be looked at as temporary storage units and as such would be covered under UMCA Portable Storage Unit Guidelines which limit the time the storage unit can be in a parking space to 30 days and require an application. Although designed to cover portable moving systems like PODS; these IMO could be classified under the same rule.

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MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
Glen - Thanks - Good idea - Nice response.
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
Susan - Sorry, it's just not that simple. The bylaws don't address this technology and they don't say that they are allowed and they don't say that they are not allowed.
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
Susan - Sorry, it's just not that simple. The bylaws don't address this technology and they don't say that they are allowed and they don't say that they are not allowed.
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
Kirk - Thanks for your comments on anchoring - My thoughts exactly. It seems that it's not anchored and the floor is just heavy enough to keep it from blowing away. Now I think that you would be surprised when you looked inside the tent. There's lots of room inside and some of these will accomodate 2 motorcycles in just one space. I certainly wouldn't want to think about the owner storing additional gas cans or other items in the tent. If they allow it for motorcycles then what happens when I install one for my small car.

I really do think that this comes under the ARC and we'll have to address from there,..
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
Kirk - Thanks for your comments on anchoring - My thoughts exactly. It seems that it's not anchored and the floor is just heavy enough to keep it from blowing away. Now I think that you would be surprised when you looked inside the tent. There's lots of room inside and some of these will accomodate 2 motorcycles in just one space. I certainly wouldn't want to think about the owner storing additional gas cans or other items in the tent. If they allow it for motorcycles then what happens when I install one for my small car.

I really do think that this comes under the ARC and we'll have to address from there,..
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
Thanks Gloria - Great idea....
JohnK3 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 967
Posted:
Mike,

Our docs allow HOA reps to enter any "common area" (which I imagine your parking spaces are) to conduct inspections as to possible violations of the CCRs and ByLaws. Perhaps yours do, too. In that case, at least you could find out if the tents are being employed for uses other than protecton of an MV.
KarenS11 (Florida)
Posts: 148
Posted:
Wow, those things are hideous.

If someone came up with a storage solution that would fit the end of a parking space, they would make a fortune. Something along the line of those rubbermaid storage units, only attractive.
DanaB1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 319
Posted:
Wait a minute, I've been reading posts about not allowing pick up trucks and yet people would allow these things?

I don't have a problem with pick up trucks but these? Not on my watch.

How soon before owners would be subletting them to their illegal alien house staff or worse yet; mother's in law? You could quickly find 12 people living in it with a coleman grill, porta potti, and a satellite dish in a 5 gallon pale outside the thing.

Geesh!
DanaB1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 319
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By KarenS11 on 10/26/2008 5:24 AM
Wow, those things are hideous.

If someone came up with a storage solution that would fit the end of a parking space, they would make a fortune. Something along the line of those rubbermaid storage units, only attractive.

Karen, they have them already; they're called dumpsters. If someone has that much crap that they can't fit it inside their unit, they need to move. They weren't meant to live in a condo.

:-)

Dana
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
Dana - You gave me a nice chuckle, so thanks! This is just a new technology or concept (IE-PODS), that we have to address through the ARC. This is the next best thing to a car cover of which I'm not a big fan either. Most of the standard cloth car covers (I'm discovering) have derelict vehicles under them with no wheels, no tags etc. Then when they take off the car cover they just wad it up and leave it on their front porch. Thanks for your response.

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