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RobertB21 (Kentucky)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Kentucky. We,the board wish to amend the Articles. Our Articles state "This Declaration may be amended at any time by an instrument executed by persons or entities able to exercise seventy-five percent of the voting power of all classes of the Association." My question is after the vote and the amendments are approved do we have to write a new declarate or can we just attach the amendments to the existing Declaration. It would be very costly to issue all 174 homeowners with a new set of Declarations. There must be some of you who have changed/amended your Declarations.
Second question how do you get 75% of your members out to a meeting.
Thank you
BryanG1 (Florida)
Posts: 43
Posted:
They can just be attached, but they will also need to be recorded with the local Clerk in your county.
GeorgerwilliamsW (Indiana)
Posts: 975
Posted:
There may be some Kentucky statutory and case law that directs how that 75 percent is achieved.

You should note, however, that it requires the signatures, not votes, of the homeowners. As such, it may not require a meeting vote, but rather a petition-like effort. It may also have to be notarized as well.

You may with to check with your county recorder to see if that office can provide any guidance on proper procedures.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Is it a total revision or just an amendment or two?

DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Robert,

You just need to send each member and amendment sheet to be joined with their full document set. Because it is an amendment to your Articles Of Inc, a copy of it signed must be sent to your State NON PROFIT CORP division for official recording, along with a copy to your County Clerks office. No need to send out full sets of documents.
RobertB21 (Kentucky)
Posts: 6
Posted:
We did want to remove all the references to the developer and the sections about two class of voters and make some changes to the restrictions,but we may now just add amendments to the restrictions:xamples allowing political signs and allowing homeowners to park motorcyles in their driveways.
When you no longer have the developer in the picture the Declarations can make for some confusing reading:For example sections about the two classes of voters. I thank you all for your helpful information and will look up the Kentucky statues on Non-profit Incorporation.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Robert,

Make certain you thorouhly read and understand the amendment clause of your declaration to determine the method for amending. My former assn CCRs only require a vote of 75% of the members, while the CCRs of my present assn requires "written approval OR affirmative vote, or any combination thereof of the voting owners representing 75% of the votes entitled to be cast." As you can see the requirements are quite different. Be careful to do exactly what is outlined in your declaration.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Robert,
When we write amendments for just one or two changes we amend. However when there are several changes (see below) we AMEND AND RESTATE (replace in its entirety) the Declaration of CC&Rs.

The purposes of the amendments in this Declaration are to remove certain developer language that is no longer applicable to the community, remove provisions that do not allow the Board to efficiently operate the community or deal with community concerns, remove provisions that do not comply with current state law, add provisions that reflect beneficial state law provisions, add provisions on restrictions, maintenance, insurance, Limited Common Area, and to provide the association with sufficient power to create and successfully enforce Rules and Regulations;
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Robert? Why do you want to do that?

We have our original documents, and we have had a variety of CC&R amendments over the years.

We just simply file them in the county deed room and mail a copy to each homeowner.

We have been advised by several attorneys over the years that it is a waste of time and money to "rewrite" the docs to remove the declarant or developer references or the references to the two classes of votes (since only one class exists after turn-over anyway).

Of course our documents also mention that declarant or developer means any entity that takes over the duties and responsibilities of declarant or developer, or to which he assigns.

(c) References to "Developer" shall include any entity, person or association to whom Developer may assign the foregoing rights.
RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
Robert,
To answer your second question, it is usually impossible to get 75% of the owners to attend a meeting. Therefore, we send out a mail-in ballot for all owners of record to sign and mail back in the self addressed stamped envelope which is provided with the ballot. Also, a suscinct letter is enclosed to explain the reasons the amendments are needed. After receiving the ballots have volunteers prepared to go door to door to try to get enough signatures to pass.
RobertB21 (Kentucky)
Posts: 6
Posted:
Can someone tell where I can find samples of amendment ballots for a vote by mail on changes to the restrictions. We wish to be sure that the wording of ballots is such that they will be no questions as to the legality of the vote. Sorry about the time delay but we thought that we could do it ourselves. I did go to a HOA that Roger recommended but was unable to see the samples as I needed to be member to login.
Thanks
JohnK3 (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 967
Posted:
Michele writes:

>>>We have been advised by several attorneys over the years that it is a waste of time and money to "rewrite" the docs to remove the declarant or developer references or the references to the two classes of votes (since only one class exists after turn-over anyway).<<<

I agree.

Try this. You will need 1) a copy of your docs, and; 2) a black Magic Marker.

Next, use #2 to strike everything in #1 referring to the declarant. Now they will read easier and not confuse anybody.

If you'd like, send copies to Membership saying the stuff crossed out is no longer relevant because the declarant is no longer relevant.

Mission accomplished.

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