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MaryN (Virginia)
Posts: 125
Posted:
After 2 years of arguing and paying for legal council we finally made it to court. As many of you many recall..I live in Virginia. We are a small rural community/sub-division and our covenants were done in 1974. The lots are owned by the individual property owners and the Civic Association has the right-a-way over the roads. Our CCR's stated that each parcel will pay equally in the maintenance of the road and keeping the weeds and grass cut. In 2006, a new board decided that it needed to change the covenants because, they had been charging 31 lots road/administrative fees and 6 adjoining lots 1 user fee, and 5 adjoining lots 1 user fee. All of those lots have identical covenants. They also tried to change the Civic Association into a Mandatory Association, by a majority vote(required to change the covenants)..many other things were changed in the sweeping covenant change. There was no meeting to discuss the changes..and none were legally required. A letter sent out with the covenants told the property owners that a Judge had strongly recommended the change. It took a lot of work, calling repeatedly, frequent emails, and home visits to get the 29/50 vote(the vote is done by then lot owners). The new CCR's were filed at the courthouse, liens were placed on properties that refused to pay for all the administrative fees, etc. The original CCR's require nothing more than road payment. We tried for almost a year to work with the BOD...finally hired a very good attorney who works with HOA's/POA's. Today we went to circuit court. The ruling is: the 2006 covenant changes are null and void..it requires a 100% vote to change from a voluntary to a mandatory association. There is a declaration which is good for a voluntary association, but does not meet the requirements of a declaration for a mandatory association, which would place the association under the property owners of VA act. All 42 lots must pay an equal amount for road maintenance. The Civic Association does not have the power to place liens, but can take delinquent owners to court to try and collect. It only took 2 hours in court. So far $30,000, 2 years of constant frustration, but we'll all have clean deeds.
So there you have it..another court ruling in VA!
MaryN
GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Congratulations Mary. I'm sure this will also relieve Kevin from Fl. who is going through something similar.

Studies show that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Mary - so you are STILL a voluntary association?

What will happen when no one "volunteers" to pay any dues?

MaryN (Virginia)
Posts: 125
Posted:
For years we had acted as a voluntary association..and would you believe everyone paid..some late..but they paid. The dues had been running about $200 per year. The problem was the money was being spent on everything but the roads..the one road item that was paid for was the grass mowing. For the past year when storms broke off large limbs from trees, or caused damage that required chain saws..owners would bring out their tractor and several of the men would work together. We have tar and gravel roads..between 2-3 miles..and we do have some pot holes..days past before all this legal mess..some of the men would get together and heat up tar and fill them in..all as volunteers. Most of the owners here are retired so finding men willing to do the jobs hasn't been a problem. However, We asked our attorney the same question. He told us..we could take them to District Court..and have the Judge rule that they pay. When the dust settles..and I guess that will take a few weeks..some major decisions will need to be made. For now, I'm so relieved that those 2006 covenants are gone..don't get me wrong, I still support mandatory associations..if it is in existance when the property is purchased. This was bait and switch..and some owners can't vote some in and some out..it was all such foolishness..
Mary N
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
MaryN,
Congratulations.
Have you got any idea of your total group, how many are satisfied and not.

Would you do it again.

You must have a group that have formed some cohesiveness by volunteering to fix roads. etc. Did this closeness help your two year court case.

Elaborate a little if you can about anything you might have done differently.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
MaryN,

Congratulations! I am so happy this has finally been settled. I'm also so very happy to hear a judge has reaffirmed my opinion all along that to form a mandatory assn requires a 100% vote of the property owners. Here in AZ there have been several voluntary assn's changed to mandatory assns w/o a 100% vote, all instigated by the same HOA attorney. I think at least one has been challenged in court but I don't think the case has been settled yet.
MaryN (Virginia)
Posts: 125
Posted:
Interesting question about what I would have done differently. We've been thinking about that a lot lately. Three years ago, when all of the rumblings started, I should have gathered all the paperwork, researched everything at the courthouse, and given it to an attorney who specialized in POA law. Then I would have paid him to attend our annual meeting and present his findings to the property owners. Had we paid him early on..the bill would have been nothing compared to the bill we have now. I also would have been more aggressive with fellow property owners, especially those that live off the sub-division and either have non developed property or a weekend/summer home here. Looking back..we were too cheap, too nice..and I think we have learned our lesson.

I can't explain how the owners come together to work on projects. It is always the same guys, about 5-6 guys that show up. They have fun working together. One or two of them have tractors and they will use any excuse to get them out and use them. Several of the homeowners have wood burning fire places and they use the wood from the trees. Currently there is enough money in our road fund to resurface the roads. We live in a rural area and our roads are not the same quality as you would find in the city.

In honesty, the community will never again be 100% united in friendship..but then I'm not sure it ever was. We have considered sending a letter to all the property owners explaining what happened..and decided we will make copies of the Judge's ruling and mail them to all the property owners. Truth be known, we have spent our time and money and "cleaned up" their deeds by removing the 2006 covenants. Had we not done this sooner or later they would have become an issue.

To anyone else going thru something like this..hang in there..it's not easy! In our case we knew it was the right thing to do.

MaryN
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Interesting answer MaryN,
I wopuld think your report would serve as guidance to a lot of folks.

Certainly the benefits of acting early are evident. Also the need to be firm and get the job done in spite of resistence is worthy.
I hope your answer serves as strong suggestion to those in similar situations.
Thanks for the reply.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Mary - who is the "we" that owes this $$ to the lawyer?

I get worried when there are obligations - such as a road - and you depend on volunteers and a "bunch of guys" to do the work.

The Process (of mandatory) was wrong and has been corrected, but I think the aim (of making a mandatory association) is right, considering you have some real obligations to make, now, in 5 years, in 10 years, etc, etc.

MaryN (Virginia)
Posts: 125
Posted:
The "we" is a group of 6 property owners who own a total of 10/42 lots. Our subdivision contains a very large working farm and a "Manor House" which in the past was a B&B. The farm and the Manor House do not have to pay any road maintenance fees. The farm..if sub-divided into residential lots will have a deed identical to the other 42 lots. I know the BOD took at least $3000 from the road fund(as of May)to pay legal fees. I have no idea how much they have spent to date. Their attorney stated in court that because so many property owners had written letters with their road assessment check..that no part of the check was to be spent on legal fees..and he didn't think he was going to be paid. There was close to $50,000 in the account.

It'll take about a month to get the written judgements/rulings and then we can address the road maintenance issues. For the past 8 years very little has been done. Some pot holes need to be filled, and some of the property owners have agreed to do that...as they have in the past..and they have the tar leftover from a few years ago.

It's important to note..since 1974 the association functioned as a voluntary one. The only difference, as explained to us in court, a mandatory association has the power to put a lien on property, a voluntary must take the owner to court for non payment. I'm not sure if it would be the lower, District Court..without much enforcement power..or the Circuit Court because of the ruling that all 42 lots are to share equally in the road maintenance. Also, a mandatory association is very powerful in the state of Virginia, because of the Property Owners Act of Virginia. Many of us believe that very powerful is too powerful. There is a fine line.

For here and now..this is where we are. I know we couldn't live with the 2006 covenants and all of the changes that were made. Maybe in a few years the property owners will come up with something that meets everyone's needs..I feel confident, until then, the roads will be maintained.

Mary N

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