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DouglasL2 (California)
Posts: 3
Posted:
What happens if nobody wants to serve on the Board? Does the Department of Corporations get involved? Who runs the association?
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Douglas,
If your own governing documents do not address this, then either the Davis/Sterling Act or the California Non Profit Corp. laws will. In Florida, as few as a single resident can petition the court to take the HOA under a "recievership" which then is billed to all of the members. I would never allow things to get that bad. Courts, Lawyers and all of the legal people involved are VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE and your members surely won't like that. Someone needs to step up and rally the troops.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Douglas,

I'm thinking you are saying no one wants to run for a position on the board, but you do now have board members. Surely all their terms can't be expiring at the same time. In AZ, the nonprofit corp statutes state that ". . .despite the expiration of a director's term, a director shall continue to hold office until the director's successor is elected, designated or appointed and qualifies, until the director's resignation or removal or untilt here is a decrease in the number of directors."

If it is possible to decrease the number of directors I would think that should be the first step to take. Our BOD has 5 members and could be decreased to 3.

I doubt your gov. docs. will have the answer to your question, but you may find something in the Davis-Stirling Act or the CA nonprofit corp statutes. The AZ nonprofit corp statutes have laws regarding dissolution but the process must be started by the BOD.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Mary, our board members all have the same term, one year, and must run again each year.

No staggered elections and no board member overlap.

Interestingly, few of the HOA boards around here have staggered terms.

I wonder how that happened?

Oh well. That might be something I'll bring up to the committee working on revising the bylaws.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
In my experience when I hear "No one wants to serve on the Board" it means two things to me:

1) that the Board has isolated itself so much from the Membership that no one knows what's going on and there is great fear and/or anger against the Board and what it stands for . . .

OR

2) there are no committees established so that the members from those committees can "feed" the Board.

OR

3) there is no Nominating Committee, whose job it is to find capable and willing people to serve on the Board.

SusannaM (Florida)
Posts: 366
Posted:
I couldn't agree with you more SusanW1. I am in NE FL. This is the scenario: We have a "de facto", self appointed board. They claimed the 2007 annual meeting was a disaster. Only 12 people showed up out of 558 SF households. I did not closed and moved until late May 2008. There are NO Minutes to reflect the transition from 2007 to 2008. Only one of the Directors listed in the 2007 Annual Report is a current board member. He's the Secretary but failed to record Minutes. New Prop. Mgmt. co. took over in May 2008 and filed 2008 State of FL Annual Report in April with 4 new board members, at face value since there is NO evidence to support the validity of current board. We have an HOA meeting this coming Tuesday 10/7 where the board is supposed to approve our 2009 Budget. I have suggested to President that they must "come clean" at this meeting and promise lawful elections in December. We, "the people", don't want any of these board members to continue on their posts beyond December.
SusannaM (Florida)
Posts: 366
Posted:
I'd appreciate your thoughts.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Susanna,
Members complain all of the time about how tings are running and about their Boards but comes meeting time, where the heck is everyone? No one wants to step up to do the job. Get a bunch of members who are upset like you. You can form your own group but not a committee because all committees in Florida HOAs must be sanctioned and run under the BODs. Yours will be a group of concerned members.

List all of the items that you feel need correction and attention. HAVE SOME MEMBERS READY TO RUN FOR THE BOARD. Sitting back and letting this continue at it's present pace will not fix your probles.

But most importantly, look at the Statutes 720. I required every Board and committee member to have current copies of 720 in their folders and available at all times.
SusannaM (Florida)
Posts: 366
Posted:
DonnaS, thanks for the reply but I'm afraid you miss the point. I've sold real estate in FL for 20 years and knew about Florida 720 long before current board. One board member has already resigned as a result of me "blowing the whistle" for creating a conflict of interest. I accepted an invitation by President to chair the Architectural Review Committee back in June but when I found out the number of irregularities going on and the level of ignorance , I declined to be further involved although I have not formally resigned. Instead, I decided to bring change and accountability one step at the time. Hopefully, we'll have enough educated people to participate in December's election. I'm working on it.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Susanna,
Okay, help me out here. What point did I miss? It sounds to me like you are very aware of the Statutes. Now that you are involved in the running of the association, you are finding out what a mess things are. I said get involved, get other members involved because there is power in the numbers. This will not be an overnight fix because it took years to get this messed up so as you said--"I'm working on it."

Just for a little background, before I moved to Tennessee last year, I was on my Board for 2 years, going thru our transition from Developer to membership, wrote our ARC guideline manual and Rules and Regs for my community. I was chair for a Documents committee at one of my rental unit communities and am on another Docs committee for another developement where I own a rental. I do have experience with S.S. 720, 617 and 718.

Then I am quoting you on this---" but when I found out the number of irregularities going on and the level of ignorance , I declined to be further involved although I have not formally resigned." If I were your Board or on the ARC committee with you, I would ask for your resignation if you are not attending meetings. That is the proper thing to do, because you are taking up a valuable space which is one step in obtaining a better working committee.

P.S. Having been in the unit ownership business, I know that 20 years of being a real estate agent does not make you understand the Statutes.

SusannaM (Florida)
Posts: 366
Posted:
Have a good day Donna.

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