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LeeS1 (New Mexico)
Posts: 24
Posted:
I recently learned that our "back-up" for our office computer systems (3 systems) consists of one of the paid temp agency staff members' taking home a flash drive of the backup each night. While we have no reason to distrust that person who has been doing a good job for us for several years, it seems that this is not the proper way to maintain security on the computer systems. The office has previously been broken into and computers stolen.

I believe we need a professional backup of everything. Can anyone recommend a reliable company where the computers could be backed up to? Also, let me know about costs. We have all kinds of files, including extensive graphic files, architectural control files (thousands), and more. We have a laptop and 3 desktop systems. Are there other options out there for the security of our hardware and software systems?

Thanks in advance for any advice on this.
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
There are lots of expensive options to include some of the free sites that provide web backup. See this article. http://www.pcworld.com/article/125729/store_it_on_the_web.html# Whether you pay for this web service or go with a free option, this should not be the only solution. Flash drives have very limited life cycles, so I shudder when I here that folks are using this as the only backup solution. You can also use "ntbackup" which is already on your PC in conjunction with at least 2-3 exteral USB drives. Don't buy a cheap personal USB drive. I recommend the Maxtor One Touch 4 drives. They are cheap these days. Veritas also offers a software solution for backups that can be used with the External USB drives. You need to have an offsite storage location in addition to the USB drives. Think Redunancy and don't put all you eggs in one basket.
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
What does 3 systems mean? 3 pcs? Are they networked, and are all data files on a server or central location?
LeeS1 (New Mexico)
Posts: 24
Posted:
To answer your questions, there are 3 desktop computers and none is networked to the others. Each computer is onto itself. One computer has all the Quicken files that the treasurer uses, and info about the budget/accounts. Another is primarily documentation such as letters, customer service calls. The third is graphics for the newsletter, plus the files for ACC (architectural control). There is no central location. (Yes, it appears we are operating in the dark ages! The strange thing is that we are paying a computer person $100/hr for his advice and tech help.)

So, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.I have the responsibility of looking into all this and coming up with some options for better computer usage as well as security of data and systems.
PeterB1 (Florida)
Posts: 257
Posted:
If you are paying a professional $100/hr for advice, why would you solicit help from this internet group.I spent 20 years providing solutions to small and large businesses and it wasn't for free.

If you don't like/trust/have confidence in your consultant, find another. There is nothing more important that the backups of your data.
LeeS1 (New Mexico)
Posts: 24
Posted:
You are correct--we do not have confidence in the consultant, and feel that we need someone who can truly help. I am sure there are many respondents on this forum who have (alleged) professionals who are working for their HOA, people whose qualifications are being called into question. Haven't you ever paid for advice to find out it wasn't worth a cent?

What better place to go to than a website with HOA people (worker bees) on it, rather than rely solely on a person whose expertise and more perhaps, his maturity, appear to be sorely lacking (especially when he can't answer simple questions you would expect a reasonable response for). Rather than dump the person immediately, despite the money trap, I am trying to do some homework for the board. Sometimes I think that a teenager would be of more practical help to us.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Lee,

I can't help but wonder why you have 3 computers, each maintaining a separate set of records, when you could have one computer holding all the info. How large is your assn that you require an office? How large is the staff in this office?
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
You could at the very least, use a simple workgroup in order to consolidate all your data files from all the PCs onto just one PC (share it out or setup simple File/Print server) that gets automatically backed up. Have your tech set the backup to run on a regular schedule and keep as many backups on the external drives, as you can. If you don't also use an offsite web service for backing up files, then make sure that you rotate one of your external usb drives off site so that if there is a fire or theft, you don't lose all your files. Unless you have a ton of data, I wouldn't even mess around with differential or incremental backups. Just backup all your data files every day. Nobody ever thinks about backups until it's too late and you'd be surprised how many folks don't have good backup solutions. It's great that your asking these questions now and not later.
LeeS1 (New Mexico)
Posts: 24
Posted:
This sounds like very good advice. Thank you very much.
LeeS1 (New Mexico)
Posts: 24
Posted:
We have 3 people (2 paid clerical/administrative people, 1 of whom is half-time, 1 full-time; and the volunteer treasurer) using all 3 computers at once. The association has 2200 homes.
KirkW1 (Texas)
Posts: 1,665
Posted:
For what it is worth, here are some thoughts from a guy who has worked in computer support since 1995:

I believe that you should plan on spending some of the next year's budget on IT issues to bring yourself into a better place. Some issues that you face include
  • securing data from theft

  • securing data from loss

  • securing data from corruption

  • securing data from mis-use

Some of these are inter-related. But it takes a layered approach and you need to be comfortable with your IT consultant.

Briefly I would look for ALL drive media to be encrypted. This will prevent access should someone steal the computers.

I would also look for a formal method of off-site storage. The idea of someone taking data home isn't horrible in my book. But you should have it more then one location if you go this route. And again, the media needs to be encrypted. Keep in mind that thumb drives can be lost or stolen quickly. A hole in the pocket is enough to lose them. And a thief can grab it from a counter so fast you won't know it was swiped.

I would look to an option to back it up with a company over the internet. Which brings me to another thing. If all of your computers have access to the internet, it should be through the same source and use a firewall. You should also have a policy regarding the use of the internet with the computers.

Also, you need to make sure all of your computers are protected with anti-virus software that is kept up to date. And while there is a real cost, you might want to consider a server that will control access to the information. This will allow for better backup, and access control. The down side is that without a ood backup program you then have a central point of failure. But all of this should be within the reach of an organization with 2200 homes.

By the way, you may want to get a committee to oversee the IT in your association. With that many homes there is a real good chance that you have at least a few who are in the field and can help ensure things are done right. Just be prepared that they will ask for a budget as it does cost money. Also, charge them with ensuring that you have legal copies of your software. The cost is very low compared with being on the news if you are caught not having purchased the software you are using.
LeeS1 (New Mexico)
Posts: 24
Posted:
Kirk W,
All great suggestions, and I plan to use them all. As for getting a committee together, we tried that. With 2200 homes, you'd think there would be ONE person who could help. Well, the apathy runs wild. Most of the people are quite wealthy (I live in the "poor" section, as it is referred to), and haven't time to be bothered with giving back to their community, unfortunately. I am going to be interviewing another "expert" in the next 2 weeks. With your comments, I plan to query the office staff on some things, too. Great points you made. Thanks again.

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