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DanielleP1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 4
Posted:
We just established a HOA board that homeowners are now on. I am the president, and the managment company we have can not provide me with the proper accounting documents. Does any one know if Managment companies get audited by state since they are handling other peoples money. We are looking into another managment company but we need to know where we stand as of this month with our finances. If any one can tell me what a managment company should supply the board with concerning our membership dues and bills. We have a pool and common areas. This is a development that has 92 homes so far with the developer still in the development with 41 more lots to sell, the builder is going bankrupt and who is to say the developer won't. Please any places we can go for research on the laws about mangment companies would be very welcomed or any advice would also be greatly appreciated.
DonnaM6 (South Carolina)
Posts: 9
Posted:
The management company is to supply the Board with the financials for each and every month. I would request the financials from the time the HOA was established. Have you paid any HOA dues yet? Were HOA dues paid when you purchased your home?

If HOA dues have been paid and the management company does not have a financial record, who does? The Developer? Is the Developer also a part of the management company?

If you do not receive the financials from day 1 of the organization of the HOA or collection of dues, I would contact an attorney.

Best wishes,

Donna
DanielleP1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Hi Donna thank you so much for your reply. We have been paying dues since 2004 and yes we paid them when we bought our houses. The developer is not the managment company but he uses this company for all 23 developments he has. Our board consists of two homeowners and three people who own the development company, so when we ask things of the managment company such as records or audits they call the developer and ask if they have to give this stuff to us. We pay them $2.50 per lot per month and we feel they need to work with the homeowners not just the developer, the developer says since he has been paying our deficit that he should be the only one asking about the records. We are just trying to make sure that if anything happens to developer we can run our HOA sufficently with out them.
Thank you again for your response.
JohnO6 (Georgia)
Posts: 424
Posted:
The very first thing the two homeowner Board Members should do is to read every word or your HOA's legal documents (a painful experience that is, unfortunately, necessary) to include both the Declaration of Protective Covenants as well as the By-Laws of the Association.

Be sure that you read the "definitions of terms" pages in the docs.

As you read the docs, I would suggest you take a pad of paper and create a number of separate headings for the various "entities" you will, or may, encounter in the CCRs such as:

Declarant
Builder
Homeowner
Association
Board of Directors
Committees
Management Company
etc.

As you read thru the docs, you may want to make notes under each "entity" as to what powers, duties, responsibilities, etc each has within these legal documents. Hopefully this will give you a visual or condensed view of your situation.

I would pay particular attention to:

Composition of the Board and who can appoint vs elect members at what stage of lot sales
Declarant "loans" to the HOA during the building and selling (development) phase(s).
Unilateral rights of the declarant in a variety of areas (property annexation, exemptions to other parts of the CCRs, etc, etc, etc).

Once you've completed this admittedly arduous exercise, you'll be amazed at how much more clearly you will see your current situation and the potential pitfalls of various possible scenarios in the future.
DanielleP1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Hi John thank you for your response. I have read every word of the legal documents. That is why we now have homeowners on the board. In January of 2007 the developer should have become a class A member paying the same dues for each one of his lots like we pay, not the deficit and that a board of homeowners be in plkace by this date no matter how many lots he still had in the development that needed to be built on. With that being said and him having 43 lots still open, we as homeowners wanted to work with him and let him just pay the defisit on our development and let him find a new builder to finish the development out. In our documents he could have annexed us or pulled his lots out of our development till they were finished and one by one put the homes in since the land is platted for our development. Which would have meant a very high increase in our dues while he removed the property in the short term. So we all voted to let him pay just the deficit which is way lower than he would have had to pay us. He has found a new builder and they starting building in here again, which we are all glad about.
On to the by- laws it states as president of the board which I am that I am suppose to be co signer on all bank accounts and that no bill is to be paid with out two signatures mine and the managment company. It also atates that we have five on our board with the only position that can hold two spots is Secratary and treasure which is the developer, then the other home owner on the board is VP and the Builders sister and dad are on the board with no tittle. We have a registered agent whcih is the owner of the managment company we currently have. I need to know do managemtn companies get audited every year since they handle other peoples money and what resords I should receieve and if other HOA have there president sign checks even though they have a management company plus what reports I should be given if their are certain lingo is used for these documents.

I really do appreciate this response and you are correct every HOA should read and re read all documents because they are not always written such as ours in lay terms and not always understandable unless notes and highlighting is done. Once we get the development in order by what the documents state and find a managment company that can provide us with what we need to clean things up we should be okay from there on in I hope.
JohnO6 (Georgia)
Posts: 424
Posted:
Danielle - Since I am not in a SC HOA, I will have to defer to others' expertise regarding any legal requirements of management companies, HOAs, auditing, etc.

However as a matter of standard business practice, the managment company should provide a complete set of financial statements each month to include (at least)

Balance Sheet
Income/Expenses statement
Bank Statement Copy/copies and reconciliation

Other optional reports may include Aged Owner Balances (e.g. delinquencies), Actual vs. Budgeted Income & Expenses, etc.

At year end, you should receive

December 31st Balance Sheet
Annual Income/Expenses Statement

Finally, you should receive a copy of the annual tax filing(s) as they occur.
EllenS1 (Florida)
Posts: 1,148
Posted:
I don't know about SC law but Florida management companies are regulated by the Department of Professional Regulations (much as realtors). You might contact them. The old management company is surely not within the scope of what they can or cannot do. The DPR may be very interested in learning of the acts of your present company.
DanielleP1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 4
Posted:
Thank you all for your responses this is a big help. We found out today that the realestate commision overseas property managment companies in SC so we are going to contact them tomorrow. I really truly appreciate all of your help.
GloriaM (North Carolina)
Posts: 829
Posted:
Danielle:

At the click of the mouse the MC should be able to supply the board members with the financial reports. Each and every month our boards receive their monthly reports. We recently had a turn-over of a new board and the new member asked me for the past 4 months financials...at the click of my mouse he had it in his email box.

Your MC is bound by his contract to fulfill their duties, the most important one is giving the information to the board about your financial health of the community.

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