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MichaelS (North Carolina)
Posts: 5
Posted:
I am slated to become president of an association. The property was built in the mid seventies in Durham/Chapel Hill NC. For years monthly dues for our townhouses were kept low and the board of directors delt with capital imporvements by assessment. We had a comprehensive reserve study conducted years two years ago and upon reading this study yesterday, I discovered that within the next ten years we will be facing a $500,000 short fall.
Our by laws allow a 5% increase in dues per year. Up until this year this had not been done. Past leadership passed the buck. Well guess where the buck is landing? Any suggestions for fund raising, etc. to deal with this mountain of debt we're facing.

Michael Sullivan
4100 Five Oaks Dr. Durham NC

Michael Sullivan
RobertR (Colorado)
Posts: 1
Posted:
First question: does the 10 year shortfall refect 5% yearly dues increases or was the study done using the current dues and no increases?

If no increases were used in the study, then I would start increasing dues by 5% per year for three or four years and see were that will put you. I know it's not the "popular choice" but if it's explained and presented properly most people will go along. I'm a BIG fan of reserve funds and believe HOA's are playing with fire not to have a healthy reserve fund.

If the 5% yearly increases were used in the study, then I would think about really "biting the bullet" with a one time "large" increase. Changes to the by laws can be made to accomadate this. It's extremely unpopular, but sometimes it's the only way to avoid finacial disaster. Fund raisers and other such events will only carry you so far and then people get tired of them. It's not a long term solution. You can play with the figures and see what kind of increase is needed and be sure to include a budget line item for "reserves" and, if possible, "capitol improvements". This, over time, will take away the need for yearly assessments.

I have served as Treasurer for a small Townhome complex in Michigan and I'm currently on a Rules and Regulation committee here in Florida.
MichaelS (North Carolina)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Thanks Robert. The 5% increase was accounted for in the study, however the board at the time decided not to go with a 5% increase, rather they did a $5.00 increase. 5% and $5.00 are not the same number. They lacked guts and passed the buck to us down the road. Our board came to the conclussions that you've given, and last night and we decided that we're going to change our rules and we're going to do a significant increase in monthly dues with a rather modest assessment spread over two years.

Michael Sullivan
KevinH (Texas)
Posts: 53
Posted:
When you say a $500,000 shortfall, are you saying these are mandatory repairs that must be made in 10 years? Or were they repairs they expect to be needed in 10 years, but may not be mandatory or even needed at all if properly maintained?

Basically, what are you repairing or needing the $500,000 for?

$500,000 seems excessive to me and it seems odd how it suddenly becomes debt in 10 years. Major repairs are not always set in stone and they are only debt when the repairs are actually done and you have to pay for them, so you may have room to wiggle and get things to a more comfortable spot within the next 10 years without additional assessments. Just make sure you are doing your part now.

I too believe in having a healthy reserve fund, however I am cautious before increasing the standard assessment, let alone adding an additional temporary assessment on top of that.

If they had a reserve study done 2 years ago, it should have spelled out what needed to happen each year from the time of the study to the expected time the repairs will be needed, etc. Even if they did increase dues by 5% every year, just 2 years ago, I seriously question whether that would have made up for the $500,000 short fall. It may have lessened it some, but probably not that much.

I'd be more mad at the board members from back in the 70's who never started a reserve fund. You would be sitting pretty most likely if they had. However at this point, since that study is only 2 years old, find out what the recommendations were at that point and act in a similar fashion. In addition, so that not all the load bears on the current homeowners, consider having an update done on that study and ask if there are areas that you can push repairs on to a later date in order to reduce the expected cost of upcoming repairs, etc. Perhaps it is a matter of better maintenance or or at worst judging which is the lesser of two eyesores, etc.

Don't dump everything on the current homeowners. Make sure money is set aside and as much as reasoably possible without placing the full brunt on their shoulders.

If you cannot see the forest for the trees, back up and get a better view. Don't start to clear a path while still blind.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:

Don't dump everything on the current homeowners. Make sure money is set aside and as much as reasoably possible without placing the full brunt on their shoulders.

Where do you think the funding for a HOA comes from???? A HOA is ONLY funded by the owners for the owners. So yes everything is going to be "dumped" on the homeowners. There are no other income resources. The full brunt of raising the money is squarely on ALL the homeowners.
My suggestion is to have a special meeting to discuss your options. That includes having a special assessment or requesting to superceded the normal 5% increase to increase the dues 20% or more. That increase would be a "Special" increase and outside of the normal allowable yearly increase.
It sounds like a great idea to have a "fund raiser" but you may want to check out the legalities of that first. It's NOT an approved form of raising money for a HOA. Income for a HOA is ONLY in the form of dues/assessments. Donating money may NOT be allowed or could be subject to taxes. A HOA has to spend as much money as it recieves in each year on it's maintenance and operation costs. It can have a "savings/reserve" account as well. You may want to consider taking part of the money in reserves now, and invest in CD's to help raise some funds.
Unfornately, the homeowners are responsible for these future expenses. They will all have to decide on how to handle the issue. It's not going to be an easy pill to swallow. Plus, you can't guarantee what vote you do while your in charge will be followed by the future boards. So keep that in mind if you do get agreement to raise anything that it may need maintained over time.

Former HOA President
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
Michael:

Other than planting money trees on your property the only way to do this is to take it in the shorts. There are many ways to raise money, from investing reserve funds to selling advertisements in newsletters and websites, but those aren't going to get you to 500k in 10 years. To me it sounds like you need to develop a 30 year plan. There is no need to push the panic button but dues have to be raised. You don't need to raise 500k in the next 10 years, maybe shot for 2/3 of that and you can always take out a loan to cover the rest. I really think you need to look at the next 20-30 years, what your estimated capitol expenses will be and devise a 20-30 year plan to get there taking into account gradual assessment increases, loans and alternative sources of revenue.

I do agree that the current homeowners should not have the brunt on them. It takes a long time to dig this big of a hole and you can't fill it in within 2-3 years, that will also take time.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Like I said before... A HOA is ONLY funded by the HOMEOWNERS!!! If the HOA wants to get a loan, then you have to add the monthly payments to the budget. So if your HOA is barely scraping by making it's monthly payments with the dues it has now, try adding another $300 - $500 a month payment into the mix. Loaned money has to be paid back! It's much easier in the time frame you have to start collecting the money by small increases. If something major breaks in the meantime, consider special assessment. A loan will just get you and your neighbors deeper in debt.

Former HOA President
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
Melissa:

I disagree, I think a loan is a valuable tool if used correctly. Let's say you need 500k. Instead of doing one lump sum right now, raise part of it via special assessment and then take out a 4-5 year loan and spread the remainder out. Yes it will suck, but as you said in your post don't put the burden on the current homeowners, a loan can help spread that debt out into the future.
MaryS7 (Texas)
Posts: 37
Posted:
Melissa, as knowledgeable as you may be about HOA's you really could use a lesson in NOT being so condescending in your replies. People on this forum are looking for answers to questions and second opinions to solve their problems, they are not idiots. I have read many of your posts...and just felt I had to address this with you. Your knowledge on HOA's is appreciated.
BradD2 (Florida)
Posts: 418
Posted:
Loans are rarely a good idea. If you take out a loan this time you will need to take out a loan next time because you won't have been able to save up. There is also the interest you pay; banks are not philanthropic.
BradP (Kansas)
Posts: 2,640
Posted:
Brad:

I would agree with your point in 95% of the cases. However, in some cases where the board has neglected their duties and you are faced with needing a lot of money right now, a loan may be a better alternative. In this case they are needing 500k in less than 10 years, that is a lot of cash to push on current owners. If someone has the foresight to plan ahead eventually you can dig out from the hole and borrow less and less money until eventually you are caught up. That may take 30 years if done right.

I do agree, if you don't need a loan then don't do it.
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
MichaelS:
First, can you go back to the firm who completed the reserve study 2 yrs. ago to ask for a clear understanding of the numbers; also their take on what will require immediate attention. Maybe they would do a short walk thru to establish the areas of priority NOW, and charge you a minimal amount for the evaluation.

Though the shortfall is huge, I can understand if your community did not do any improvements or very little throughout the past 30 years, repairs done now will be enormous. You will have to attack them (repairs) in order of priority and immediate need.

Seek financial advice from a professional on how to increase your existing reserve funds with interest from CDs. Be straight and honest with residents by informing them that because of inadequate reserve fund (due to prior mismanagement), all residents are now left with having to build it up in preparation for those repairs which will require 'OUR' immediate attention. Get enough bids from contractors to see what dollar figures you are really talking about.

Unfortunately, I have no advice for you on fundraising. It is YOU and I who have to come up with funds to maintain common areas/amenities. Sadly, those who resided in the community before you did not do that.

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