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KelseyB (Washington)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Hi,

I was curious if anyone knew what ways are considered fair and "legal" when trying to get desicions voted on by the homeowners. --as a secondary question, what type of things can the board generally make decisions on with out a vote or should everything be voted on by all homeowners?

Our board members are all brand new to HOA. It is like the blind leading the blind and we are all nervous about doing things properly...

When we have home owners who chose not to participate in voting (or meetings) does their lack of vote automatically default to a no? Can we date things and require ballots to be returned by then or their vote is forfeited? Is anyone familiar with PROXY voting? What are the rules to implementing that and is it a good choice?

Thanks...
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Kelsey,

Wow! To answer your questions completely I could write pages.

Nobody here is likely to tell you what is "legal" in that they are not going to give you legal advice. What you will get are opinions, and they may not all be the same.

Most of the information you need will be found in your governing documents and/or your state laws. You need to get started reading your documents.
The voting requirements and what powers are invested in your board should be found in your bylaws and in your CCRs (Covenants, Conditions, and Restrictions, also sometimes called a Declaration).

You should pick up a book on parliamentary procedure, such as Roberts Rules. You can get a simplified version that's easier to understand for about $7. Most HOAs don't adhere strictly to Roberts Rules, but you will find information on voting procedures and the explanations of many parliamentary terms such as what a quorum is, what an abstention means, etc. in there.

In many HOAs, the power to make most decisions, such as make rules and regulations, review and negotiate contracts and hire contractors, prepare, and sometime adopt, the budget, make assessments, pay bills, etc. are vested in the board. Usually, the board cannot set the qualifications for board membership, nor can they elect the board members, although they sometimes can fill board vacancies for the remainder of the term. Many HOA boards elect the officers, but in some HOAs that's done by the homowners. Generally, officers serve for one year. The terms for board members varies. Sometimes its for one year, sometimes they serve staggered terms. You should find all of this in your governing documents. Nobody here can tell you exactly what is true for your HOA. Many HOAs are similar, but there are differences.

A quorum is the number of members required to conduct business. For your executive board (or board of directors) it's usually a majority. So, if you have a 5-member board, at least three members must attend a meeting to legally conduct business.

The quorum for the meeting of a homeowners may be entirely different. Often. it is set intentionally low to protect against homeowner apathy. A quorum of the homeowners may be as low as 10 or 20 percent. Your documents will tell you what it is.

Voting is by majority, except for some issues which may require a supermajority, such as 2/3. The question is, a majority or 2/3 of what?
Again, your documents will tell you. It could be a majority of the members present AND voting (this is the default rule according to parliamentary procedure). It could be a majority of the members present, which is not the same thing. It could be a majority of all the members eligible to vote, whether they are attending the meeting or not. Again, all this is in your documents.

According to accepted parliamentary procedure, an abstention is not a vote and is never counted as one, no matter what its effect on the actual outcome is.

Proxy voting is not the same as absentee voting. Whether or not it is allowed should be in your documents. Proxy voting is generally not allowed for board meetings, but may be allowed for homeowner meetings. A proxy is a power of attorney given by a homeowner that is eligible to vote to another person to vote for him or her. The proxy votes in the homeowners place, and, unless instructed specifically by the homeowner how to vote on an issue, may vote any way he or she sees fit, supposedly, acting in the best interests of the homeowner as if he or she were actually present.

GlenL (Ohio)
Posts: 5,491
Posted:
Welcome Kelsey you'll find a wealth of information here so don't be afraid to ask. You can also use the search feature on the previous page and enter a keyword such as proxy or reserves to find and read previous posts on almost any subject. Community Association Institute or CAI has numerous books available to provide information and I would also highly recommend Community Associations Network one of the sponsors here; see the link on the left. As Bruce pointed out almost everything you need will be in your documents. Interpreting them is often another matter.

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KelseyB (Washington)
Posts: 3
Posted:
Thank you very much!

I am very grateful I came across this site! I appreciate all your advice and information. Sounds like I have some reading to do!
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Kelsey,

Believe me I can identify with you as I've -- been there, done that! I was on the first board after declarant control. We were 5 board members; 4 with no experience with HOAs. The 5th, our Pres was also Pres of a condo assn so we thought he would be a wealth of info. and the reason we elected him Pres! We found out he let the prop. mgr. do all the work and he was as much in the dark as the rest of us. Several of our meetings centered around reading the various articles of the CCRs and trying to decypher the meaning. That was quite interesting. In the beginning we didn't notice our board meetings because we were unaware of state law requirement. I was the one board member who was doing more research into HOAs and discovered AZ did, indeed, have a number of state laws we also had to abide by. Then we discovered there are also federal laws we must abide by: FCC ruling on satellite dish antennas; Fair Housing Act & Fair Debt Collection Practices Act. -

As Bruce and Glen have noted, you have your work cut out for you. If your assn contracts with a management company, the property manager will, hopefully, be aware of the state and fed laws and help you as you become familiar with your gov. docs.

You will find a wealth of knowledge on this forum, so please don't be afraid to ask. But, remember, we offer opinions -- not legal advice.

Take care and good luck!

Mary

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