Changing of Signs at entrance

Was it on his property?

If not, send him the bill for replacement.

And tell him not to do that anymore.

And remind him of the restriction for on-street parking.

By the way, there IS a valid CC&R that restricts on-street parking, isn't there?

Or did the board just decide to enact it without the prescribed process for amending the CC&Rs?

Also, we can't set the speed limit in our neighborhood.

If you are legally able to set the speed limit to 10 MPH, what is your mechanism for enforcing, ticketing and/or fining those who don't comply? Will your local police do it?

What if they are not members of your HOA?

Just curious about it.

So, you are saying that there isn't any common area at the front entrance?

Are you sure that there isn't an easement granted the HOA? I mean besides a verbal "sure, use a portion of my lot."

I'm still curious about the speed limit thing.

We could probably draft some R&Rs that say the same thing, but we still wouldn't legally be able to hold anyone to the 10 MPH thing, especially if they don't live in our subdivision -- our speed limit is 25 MPH.

How do you enforce it? Do you have someone sitting somewhere with a speed gun? Can you write speeding tickets? Or does your local police department enforce it? I'm just saying, ours wouldn't (assuming we could even establish our own), since they are not obligated to enforce our Rules & Regs or CC&Rs.

What she said . . . .

We have had luck with requesting random placement of some of those Speed Reporting devices.

Basically, it's a large sign on wheels that flashes what speed you are going.

About 2 or 3 times a year the police department will put one in our main thoroughfare.

Cuts down on speeding for a few days anyway. . .

I see those signs as a personal challenge. When I come across one I try to see how high I can make it register.

Of course, I use a bicycle for my transportation.....

Here is your simple cure.
Step 1 go to City Hall and request a copy of the PUD plan that shows common ground in the community.
Step 2 Next meeting agenda add Speed Bump Installation to the agenda
step 3 After investigating the plan request prices from a local paving contractor to install speed bumps.
step 4 Write a letter to the Mayor ,Chief of Police, and the City Commisioners about the speeding problem.
Step 5 Have a meeting with the City traffic Engineer asking him / her for there requirements on speed
bumps in your development.
Step 6 If the city refuses to co-operate letter writing time to your state representatives for there
help. If still no help the go to the Federal Govt naming people you spoke with dates and copies of the correspondence. Never ever forget the state governor also.

Step 7 If all of this fails ( It worked in my hoa we have 26 speed bumps it slows the fools down or they destroy there vehicles ) Then write to PEACH SUPPLY for there catalog they sell portable speed bumps put the at all corners of the entrance and attach them with threaded inserts into the pavement with washers and bolts.

Speed bumps (and even speed "humps") are illegal on public streets in Kentucky.

A shopping center can install them, but they cannot be installed on public roadways.

Our emergency vehicle "lobbyists" are against them, too, since they not only damage civilian cars if going "too fast," they can cause problems to firetrucks and/or EMT vehicles responding to a call.

There is currently legislation in place to "allow" the "speed humps," but so far it's not a viable option for us.

We also tried to get the city to install more stop signs. We wanted stop signs placed at all the T-intersections in the subdivisions, but City Works would not do that for "speed control." We have 4 T-intersections in a row, which we figured, even if people didn't stop completely, they would slow down somewhat between roads.

City Works came out, did a "survey" and rejected the T-intersection stop signs because they could only be placed if there were a "visibility" issue with the intersection (such as on a blind curve). None of ours has that concern.

An HOA board can only due what is possible within the structure of current laws and public enforcement.

Opps!

Correct this sentence:

"An HOA board can only due what is possible within the structure of current laws and public enforcement. "

To this:

"An HOA board can only do what is possible within the structure of current laws and public enforcement. "

Wow, nothing like getting bunch of responses that have more to do with peoples opinion rather than fact. I really don't care whether or not people hate speed bumps and whether or not people think we can't put a speed limit on our streets. The fact that I stated that we have run everytning through our attorney should have made everything very clear to everyone on here.

Thanks to Roger, Joe, Gloria, etc who have answered my questions in the past with facts rather than giving their personal opinions. The law deals in facts.

Moderater:

Please delete this thread.......it is of no use to anyone.

Patrick,

Sorry for giving my opinion; I thought that's what this forum was all about. However, if you don't want people's opinions and have already spoken to an attory, what's the point in asking a question here? And correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you asked for "ideas" not "facts"!

I would have also hoped that by now you would have had a formal easement review and/or survey to determine exactly what portion of the entrance belongs to whom.

Patrick,

Well, I guess you directed your remarks to me because I'm the one who said "I hate speed bumps!" So, why didn't you just address your response to me. I'm a big girl and I can take it!

I won't apologize for saying I hate speed bumps because I do but I certainly didn't think that by saying so it would offend anyone! I did post valid info regarding speed bumps which you can just disregard if you choose.

Patrick this is what you posted: Anyone ever had any issues such as this? Ideas? I was flabbergasted since the same house has beem wanting a speed limit for a while since a lot of the kids hang out there.

People gave you ideas, people debated what is allowed in their states/neighborhoods and gave you valuable suggestions of where to start i.e. find out who owns the property the sign was on. The tread wasn't hijacked into something entirely unrelated to your original post like: "My BOD is ignoring my complaint about roofs. What do I do now?" The posts have all been related to traffic/speed enforcement.

Other people read these posts there are approx 12000 members here and while most do not post I'm sure they obtain ideas of how different communities have dealt with problems to use in their own. At least I do.

Patrick:

FACT...speed bumps slow down emergency vehicles....FACT, in a medical emergency seconds are precious...FACT, it only takes less than one second to fire a gun and kill someone...FACT, speed bumps can be the difference between life and death.

You asked for ideas, that often includes peoples opinions. If you are going to come across that blast people for offering their ideas and opinions, then don't ask for them and be clear in your post you want FACTS only, we are all here to help one another and they type of attitude you displayed is uncalled for. That is my OPINION.

"Was it on his property?

If not, send him the bill for replacement.

And tell him not to do that anymore.

And remind him of the restriction for on-street parking. "

That was from my post from higher in the thread.

If it is on his property, and there is no deeded "easement" for the HOA to use as they see fit, then seems to me there's not a darn thing you can do to him.

If you don't know if the area is yours to use, or whether you have a legitimate easement claim, then find out.

If it is his property, I would imagine he could tear it down if he wants to.

However, if it does belong to the HOA, or if you have a legitimate easement use, then "send him the bill" and "tell him not to do that anymore."

But keep in mind, since you just have a verbal okay from the other owner, then you could risk those sings being pulled out at a later date if they get mad at the HOA,too. So if you DON'T have any easement or common area in front on which to plant your own signs, then any sign you plant you might as well figure is temporary to begin with.

If he is still parking on the street, take your enforcement to the next level and have your "goodly" lawyer send him a letter letting him know that if he continues to park on the street, the HOA will move for injunction to keep him from doing so.

How is that off topic and/or not useful? You asked. I replied. Everything else I posted subsequent to that is simply small talk, I suppose.

Sorry you don't like to wade through small talk. But since none of us pays for using this site, I suppose you have to pull that old chestnut out and review it before you have a stroke: "You get what you pay for."

But, as an aside, or off topic, or however you want to classify this next comment:

I learn a great deal from people in their "small talk" or random comments.

Maybe that HOA site you pay for populated by only full-time HOA professionals will provide you with a better question-and-answer experience.

You must be very bored

i think he is accusing Patrick of threadjacki... Ooh, pretty butterflies.

Does anyone know why butterflies only live for a week? And how come when you catch them, they don't look so pretty as when they are flying past?

Wow, what a bunch of children. No wonder HOA's are so screwed up. You should all be ashamed of yourself. You are supposed to be leaders. I came here for answers and this is the first thing I see.

Pathetic

The questions have been asked and answered. Since you do not live in our neighborhood your opinions on what you think is a prudent speed limit are of no concern. We had 95 percent of the homeowner agree. I would say that is what we call a super majority.

Your age shows.

You must understand, your opinion is not the only one that counts. That is why we vote on things.

No you didn't.

But thanks for playing.

The police were contacted and we filed a vandalism complaint. He has a court date in 17 days.

I took a metal detector out to the property in question and took a tape and stepped out the measurements from the plat map and found the buried property markers. Police photographed the scene as evidence.