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RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
To all that have wondered about me. I still try and read some of the postings but don't have the time to devote to posting. Wife is hospitalized and at her age their are other items on my agenda that needs attention. I hope that before to long she will be able to come home, we'll see.

It does point out a problem that is just around the bend for HOA and Condo's.
I am sure nearly all of you know someone elderly in your association that may be approaching some tough decisions about where and how to spend the rest of their life. Costs may be eating away at what they planned would provide them with a comfortable living and they suddenly find themselves in trouble and have important decisions to make. I am not suggesting the associations are responsible, but I am suggesting that the Associations think about this from an economic viewpoint. Can the association make any mutual contribution concerning economically strapped elders with the hope of keeping them in the association as a home owner. I am sure I don't have to go into explaining the real estate picture to anyone but it does seem that it would be better for all if these seniors were considered for some reduction of fees if it means they can stay in their homes. A tough nut to crack but associations could consider this kind of thinking from a mutual benefit project.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Robert,

I certainly understand what you are saying. God forbid, my husband and I might be in that very position in the not too distant future! However, the nature of HOAs is that everyone must pay the same amount -- it's written in the CCRs. I, frankly, don't know how an HOA could cut the costs for a certain class of its members.

I must add something that has always been my belief. Everyone always talks about seniors living on fixed incomes and how hard it is for them. Discounts are showered on them from many businesses, and stors have extra 10% off days for seniors. I make certain to shop at my favorite food store on the first Wed of every mo. for that extra 10% off! But, no one ever sees the need for these extra discounts for young families with children. Aren't many of them in the same boat as many seniors are? So, should the HOA give young families a break on their assessments, too? I live in an area with many Seniors. Sun City, Sun City West, Sun City Grand & Westbrook Village are populated with Seniors, the majority of which are very wealthy -- many living in their second homes here only a part of the year. And, don't for a minute think these wealthy seniors wouldn't take advantage of the HOAs generosity of reduced assessments!
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
I am a senior on a fixed income, and my wife is disabled and in the hospital frequently. In fact, she was just in the hospital for an operation two weeks ago and came home last week. She is still recovering. So, I can certainly empathize with Robert.

Unfortunately, as Mary says, there's nothing an HOA can do about breaks on fees and assessments. Most state laws, and I think even federal law (in order to maintain your status as an HOA), require that the fees be the same for everyone. So, it just isn't an option.

But, there are ways HOAs can help. I know when we establish our budget each year we are aware of these facts and try to seek ways to reduce and/or control costs. I'm sure most HOAs do. We're also promoting the formation of a "help your neighbor" team to help neighbors who have difficulty with some tasks, like taking the trash out on trash collection day, replacing the chemicals in their water softeners (if they own one), etc. It's not a big deal to help someone out for a few minutes once or twice a month, or even once a week.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Robert,

Sorry to hear about your wife. I hope she gets well soon. I'm sure all of us wish you both the best.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Robert & Bruce,

Sorry to hear about both of your wives. My thought and prayers are with you and I truly hope they can find some relief from their ills.

My husband just retired last week so we're now on a fixed income. Or at least we will be once his paycheck runs out the end of July and we go on s/s. I certainly wouldn't expect our HOA to give us any special consideration on paying our assessments. But I will take advantage of all the senior perks I can even though I believe young families really need them too.

Bruce, I really like the "help your neighbor" project being started in your HOA. An HOA that is willing to start such a program speaks volumns of the type of people serving on your board. Hats off to them!! Is your HOA large or small? We have 1,702 homes in our HOA and it's spread over 8-10 different communities. Here, most people don't even know their neighbors. I know most of the people on our cul-de-sac -- note I said "most" and we've lived here 5 years and I'm a very friendly person. But, most wives work and are gone all day and I believe that does make a difference. But we do have at least one neighbor who I know we could count on if we needed help. In fact, I know he would come over and do anything I asked of him.
BruceF1 (Connecticut)
Posts: 2,535
Posted:
Mary,

We're a small, relatively new, adult community. When completed, we'll have 88 single-family homes. At the moment we are at 69, with a few more under construction. There are 4 phases ("neighborhoods"), each ending in a cul-de-sac. We have a community center (clubhouse) located approximately in the center of everything.

We have a 5-member board, 4 of them homeowners. All of the officers are homeowners. The "help your neighbor" project was the idea of our president and our treasurer.

All of our officers also contribute to the monthly 10 page newsletter, which is separate from the board. As it turns out, the president is the editor-in-chief, I am the layout and trivia editor, our vice president is one of the writers of our "neighbor profiles" section, and our treasurer typically writes a couple of "home tips" columns each month.

Our biggest monthly event is a potluck supper which has always been a big success with typically 40 homeowners attending, and great food! Our two biggest annual events are our summer picnic and our holiday party.

Of course, we have a couple of constatnt complainers, but by and large, it's a great community with a lot of community spirit. Finding volunteers has never been a problem.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Robert, I had noticed your MIA status and was worried that it might be because of an issue with something at home.

Sending lots of positive energy your way for you and your wife.

Please keep us posted and hope all goes well during her recuperation.

SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Robert - our thoughts are with you. Good luck and good health.
And take care of YOURSELF at this time, also. Dont be afraid to ask for help from neighbors. Most folks will help out, if only asked.
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
RobertR1: I was saddened to read of your wife's illness. I, too, have missed seeing your personal critique for the last few weeks.

I don't really see how an association would or should accept responsibility to reduce financial payments of anyone who may find themselves in a 'shaky ' financial position; however, a payment plan could certainly be suggested and could benefit both parties.

In a time of crisis, kind neighbors can be a wonderful help and I sincerely hope you find this to be the case in your community. We will think good thoughts for you and your wife. Take good care of yourself as well.

JC3
Posts: 290
Posted:
you and your wife have my prayers, too, and do remember to take care of you. I hope she is well soon, and you can both return home.
MaryA1 (Arizona)
Posts: 7,043
Posted:
Bruce,

Thx for the info on your community. It surely sounds like a great place to live and it appears you have a wonderful board. Keep up the good work! :-)
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
To all,
You have lifted my spirits and I must admit my subject matter about seniors was throwed out to see what you alol thought about how things are changing rapidly in association life. Some good suggestions were made and although the agree it is written all should pay their fair share, riding above that requirement is the concerns and obligation of owners to insure the health of the association and there may be instances where it may be prudent to devise ways to keep the association alive. Well, you can see where I am coming from and sure don't offer solutions, more present some food for thought. I firmly believe the Ledership should be concerned with supporting the whole as much, if not more, than following requirements that can be changed if desired. I don;t really know if it is a legal law to require all to pay the same. Our documents might state it but our documents are not laws and subject to change by the owners.
TracyT (Maryland)
Posts: 228
Posted:
Robert,

Best wishes for your wife's speedy recovery. Please do take equally good care of yourself during this difficult time. Both you and your wife need it. Tracy
AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Robert, it's so true that our "agendas" do change as our lives do. All the things we talk about and post about suddenly seem so trivial when personal health issues of ourselves and our loved ones pop up. Our priorities change, as well they should.

Take care of your wife and yourself. You're both in my thoughts and prayers.

AnnaD--Florida

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