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MissyS (Florida)
Posts: 73
Posted:
Our documents do not cover fines for violations. It does give the board authority to make rules and regulation. My question, within the rules and regulation can we place fines on homeowners that do not respond to violation letters. Without some type of penalty other than having the attorney step in, which is costly, how do you enforce the violations? I know in the State of Florida fines are not subject to liens.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Missy,
In order to initiate a fining system into your attempt to get violations under control, you will need an Amendment into the Bylaws. You state that your Documents do not cover fining? Make sure that it is not stated someplace hidden in your Protective covenants or ByLaws under enforcement or something similar.
This is not a Rules and Regulations situation, it is needed to get an approval vote from your membership, the entire membership. You can go to the Florida Statutes 720: 305 and see the State requirements and limitations. I copied some of it for you below.

720.305 Obligations of members; remedies at law or in equity; levy of fines and suspension of use rights; failure to fill sufficient number of vacancies on board of directors to constitute a quorum; appointment of receiver upon petition of any member.--

(1) Each member and the member's tenants, guests, and invitees, and each association, are governed by, and must comply with, this chapter, the governing documents of the community, and the rules of the association. Actions at law or in equity, or both, to redress alleged failure or refusal to comply with these provisions may be brought by the association or by any member against:

(a) The association;

(b) A member;

(c) Any director or officer of an association who willfully and knowingly fails to comply with these provisions; and

(d) Any tenants, guests, or invitees occupying a parcel or using the common areas.

(2) If the governing documents so provide, an association may suspend, for a reasonable period of time, the rights of a member or a member's tenants, guests, or invitees, or both, to use common areas and facilities and may levy reasonable fines, not to exceed $100 per violation, against any member or any tenant, guest, or invitee. A fine may be levied on the basis of each day of a continuing violation, with a single notice and opportunity for hearing, except that no such fine shall exceed $1,000 in the aggregate unless otherwise provided in the governing documents. A fine shall not become a lien against a parcel. In any action to recover a fine, the prevailing party is entitled to collect its reasonable attorney's fees and costs from the nonprevailing party as determined by the court.

(a) A fine or suspension may not be imposed without notice of at least 14 days to the person sought to be fined or suspended and an opportunity for a hearing before a committee of at least three members appointed by the board who are not officers, directors, or employees of the association, or the spouse, parent, child, brother, or sister of an officer, director, or employee. If the committee, by majority vote, does not approve a proposed fine or suspension, it may not be imposed.

(b) The requirements of this subsection do not apply to the imposition of suspensions or fines upon any member because of the failure of the member to pay assessments or other charges when due if such action is authorized by the governing documents.

(c) Suspension of common-area-use rights shall not impair the right of an owner or tenant of a parcel to have vehicular and pedestrian ingress to and egress from the parcel, including, but not limited to, the right to park.

(3) If the governing documents so provide, an association may suspend the voting rights of a member for the nonpayment of regular annual assessments that are delinquent in excess of 90 days.

(Note.--Former s. 617.305.

MissyS (Florida)
Posts: 73
Posted:
Thanks Donna, knew I could count on you for a great response!
SidneyP (Florida)
Posts: 302
Posted:
Donna..."2) If the governing documents so provide, an association may suspend, for a reasonable period of time, the rights of a member or a member's tenants, guests, or invitees, or both, to use common areas and facilities and may levy reasonable fines, not to exceed $100 per violation, against any member or any tenant, guest, or invitee."

Donna, the way I read this and understand it, the tenent can be fined as well as the HO....My Board says they can't do anything to tenents...must address violations only through the HO. Therefore we never get anything corrected because most of our owners are investors and live out of town.
Our Board never carries anything through anyway.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:


Sidney,
From the Statute above, 1-d. says guest or invitees which is pretty clear to me. If the tenant fails to comply and pay the fines, I would think the owner than should get the fine and let him deal with the tenant. The Board has no authority to act beyond the fine as it then is the owners responsibility for his unit and what happens to whoever is the asignee.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Well, I could be wrong, but it really depends on the governing documents, so if Sidney's governing documents don't allow to collect against tenants and such, but only the owners, wouldn't that be a more accurate assertion?

"If the governing documents so provide,. . "

Or am I misinterpreting that out of context?

SidneyP (Florida)
Posts: 302
Posted:
Our CC&R's do state we can fine for violations....it doesn't point out HO, tentents, etc...I am going by the FL SS that do say we can fine tentents.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
Okay, I wasn't clear. We don't have such good statutes here re: HOAs like Florida does, so I wasn't sure.

DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Michele,
Paragraph (1) covers the tenant fining ability, which as we know, carrys precedence over the HOA documents. It really does get complicated when the State does that "IF THE GOVERNING DOCUMENTS SO PROVIDE. " and then they write that you can according to the State. No wonder we go nutty.

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