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AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
I've read over and over (here) that many associations have in their documents that members who are not in good standing may not use the ammenities. No where in our documents do we have that. I've read every word and it doesn't address that at all. I have two questions:

1. Is there anything in the Florida State Statutes that refers to that?

2. Can the Board make it a rule? Or would it have to be amended into the documents?

Thanks All!
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Anna,
This is from 720;305--(2) Especially #3 is the simple answer. Your Board will have to have it written into your ByLaws by a passing vote from the membership.

2) If the governing documents so provide, an association may suspend, for a reasonable period of time, the rights of a member or a member's tenants, guests, or invitees, or both, to use common areas and facilities and may levy reasonable fines, not to exceed $100 per violation, against any member or any tenant, guest, or invitee. A fine may be levied on the basis of each day of a continuing violation, with a single notice and opportunity for hearing, except that no such fine shall exceed $1,000 in the aggregate unless otherwise provided in the governing documents. A fine shall not become a lien against a parcel. In any action to recover a fine, the prevailing party is entitled to collect its reasonable attorney's fees and costs from the nonprevailing party as determined by the court.

(a) A fine or suspension may not be imposed without notice of at least 14 days to the person sought to be fined or suspended and an opportunity for a hearing before a committee of at least three members appointed by the board who are not officers, directors, or employees of the association, or the spouse, parent, child, brother, or sister of an officer, director, or employee. If the committee, by majority vote, does not approve a proposed fine or suspension, it may not be imposed.

(b) The requirements of this subsection do not apply to the imposition of suspensions or fines upon any member because of the failure of the member to pay assessments or other charges when due if such action is authorized by the governing documents.

(c) Suspension of common-area-use rights shall not impair the right of an owner or tenant of a parcel to have vehicular and pedestrian ingress to and egress from the parcel, including, but not limited to, the right to park.

(3) If the governing documents so provide, an association may suspend the voting rights of a member for the nonpayment of regular annual assessments that are delinquent in excess of 90 days.

(Note.--Former s. 617.305.

AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Leave it to you, Donna, to have the answers I need, totally and completely. You're a GEM for this site and I thank you so much!

Anna
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Anna,

You are so welcome. Because I have read the Statutes so many times, when I read a post, I can go right to them for a copy and paste for you. Anytime, my friend
WardellD (Washington)
Posts: 64
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By AnnaD2 on 03/30/2008 1:34 PM
I've read over and over (here) that many associations have in their documents that members who are not in good standing may not use the ammenities. No where in our documents do we have that. I've read every word and it doesn't address that at all. I have two questions:

1. Is there anything in the Florida State Statutes that refers to that?

2. Can the Board make it a rule? Or would it have to be amended into the documents?

Thanks All!

I would think it would have to be amended in to the by-laws and voted in by the homeowners. I am having the same problem with my board members refusing to let me see the records.

What I have done was write a letter every month sometime two and this has been going on for over a year and I sent copies to the association, the HOA’s attorney and the insurance company.

I finely got a positive response back from the insurance company that I don’t want to talk about right but this is what you have to do. When the HOA has no one to back them then you can go after the board members.

Without big brother watching over them they are not willing to spend their own money to go to court. This is why in most HOA the board members always say sue us if you don’t like what we are doing, because they have the insurance company to back them.

Keep up the good work……

http://www.cp2hoa-info.com
SidneyP (Florida)
Posts: 302
Posted:
"This is why in most HOA the board members always say sue us if you don’t like what we are doing, because they have the insurance company to back them."
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But do they have the insurance company behind them if they knowingly and willingly go against the CC&R's and the State Statues?

First my Board went against the State Statues by having a sceret meeting and reduced our Reserve fubding from $902.42...down to $750. This is all w/o a notice or meeting....HO's do not even know this has been done.

The Board has borrowed money ($5000./$6000.), it was paid back but this was also done behind the HO's back...(SS-720-303 (6) Budget(b)

This same Board has not placed one dime into the Reserves since April of last year and that is only because of some found money (switched MC's 3 times in less than three years), I believe was a small Reserve CD. Only part of that went into the account. There had been nothing placed in the account prior the that except from our 1st MC.

We have $14,000.+ in delinquent accounts. They have NOT charged any interest on these accounts since the second/2nd MC and that included to Board members....Some of these delinquents are over two (2) years old. We are a very small HOA (77 Townhouse units) and ever penny of our $818. a year Budget is needed. With 15 HO's not paying we cannot exist w/o raising the assessments or a large "Special Assessment". The non-action from the Board gives the HO's no incentive to pay. Why pay if they don't have to. Our Association went from six/seven delinquenies at take over to the fifteen(15) we have now.

The Board, knowing all this, hired a new MC back in Oct. that cost us almost double what we were paying before. How and why would they chose to do this? Couldn't that money be put to better use, like funding our Reserves?...Something would have been better than nothing.

We are having our Annual meeting tonight...I am trying very hard to get back on this Board (but what good would that do if they can vote me off)...I have collected some proxies and the few voting HO's that show up at the meeting are voting for me...But I'm not sure I can help since the Board signed a 3 year contract w/this MC which states, the Association must pay the MC three (3) months pay if we cancel their contract. Where the would we get that money?

PLEASE, if anyone can help me w/any suggestion I can use to save our Association tell me. This community and these HO's (though only a few
seem to really care) mean alot to me.

AnnaD2 (Florida)
Posts: 960
Posted:
Sindey, why don't you cut and paste what you wrote and start a new thread (headline)? You have some very important questions here and not a lot of people will see it, read it, or help you when all that you have to say is attached to my original heading! You need to start a new topic to get some replies. If your meeting is tonight, do it ASAP!!! I wish you luck!!
Anna

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