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MonicaE (Nevada)
Posts: 21
Posted:
Our CC&Rs state our community shall have a seven member board. Elections took place in June and only six members were elected due to lack of interest. Three people resigned and another person was appointed then also resigned which leaves us with a four person Board. Since we are suppose to be a seven member Board and one member does not appear at the regular monthly meeting, can business be conducted with only three members? I say three people does not constitute a quorum for a seven member Board, but the other Board members say that since we there are now only four Board members, three members does consitute a quorum.

Who is right?

Monica
Las Vegas
RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Monica,
Oh, At the meeting, I think you have to let the board members drop to four and 3 would make a Quorum.

If for no other reason but to have Board business conducted. Everyone loses if no business gets done. I would suggest to your Board that after Day to Day stuff is discussed and voted on, thet the Board call a special meeting to discuss this refusal by your members to abide by their committment to support their association. I sure would let it be known that when they agreed to reside there they signed a legal document to protect the association from harm.
Regimes or association that go under from lack of interest is not looked on favorably by the court. If nothing gets done all are responsible.

I am sure your association has problems that contribute to your present perdictiment and that should be fixed, but this danger of having no members is a whole different ball game, and the owners should be informed of this by competent legal advisor, lawyer or otherwise.
SusanW1 (Michigan)
Posts: 5,202
Posted:
Your bylaws should define "quorum" - it could be majority of the present members your have (2 out of the 3), or a majority of all the 7 Board positions (4 of the 7.)

In any case, your Board should fill those vacancies in the manner described in the bylaws. Appoint or elect, but get them filled!

P.S. What's happening that your Board is crumbling apart?

JosephW (Michigan)
Posts: 882
Posted:
Monica

Usually a majority of the board members is sufficient for quorum. If you only have 4 members, then 3 would consitute a quorum. I've never seen documents that require a majority of "possible" board members, just actual.

Joe

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RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Joe,
Wouldn't it also be true that a Quorum has really nothing to do with how many people are on the Board or supposed to be on the Board? A Quorum is talking about the number sitting on the Board at a meeting not the number of Board Members.

JosephW (Michigan)
Posts: 882
Posted:
No, a quorum is a percentage of actual members, board or owners, not just those in attendance. If your quorum requirements are 51% and you have 100 owners and 7 actual board members, then your quorum numbers would be 51 for an owner's meeting and 4 for a board meeting.

From your statement, if one board member showed up, that would meet any quorum requirement because he/she represented 100% of those present.

Joe

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RobertR1 (South Carolina)
Posts: 5,164
Posted:
Joe,
The By-laws allow for a 7 man board. There are not 7 members on the Board, there are four. I can't see how you can require a Quorum of 4 if 7 Board members are not sitting (actual # of Board members.

I also believe if there is one real Board member, that board member speaks and acts for the Board.

If the requirements in the documents call for majority and tha majority is an apportioned majority (Condo), it is the apportioned majority that determines majority, not the number of people. I mention this because the requirements for "Quorum" is different than a an HOA vote, but they still mean the same thing.

In this case, if nor apportioned, a meeting Quorum is 51% of the actual number of votes and for the Board Quorum it is Directors serving on the Board which would be 3 out of the 4.
GeraldT4
Posts: 1,022
Posted:
The By-laws don't just allow for a 7 man board, the By-laws require it. Quorum of 7 is 4, an even number, flawed math by design because it sets up a potential tie vote, but so it is. If there are only 4 Board members due to vacancies than the Board should meet as 4, and 1 recuse him/herself from a vote, but not drop off the meeting. The even Board member out should attend the meeting to understand what is being discussed but should recuse him/herself from a vote to permit business to be conducted. Unless of course all are unanimous in their actions. Until the Board is constituted according to the By-laws, quorum is 3.
JosephW (Michigan)
Posts: 882
Posted:
Robert,

What you said was "a Quorum has really nothing to do with how many people are on the Board or supposed to be on the Board?" A quorum is based on how many people are on the board (not supposed to be). If you're supposed to have 7 board members, but in reality only have 5, then your meeting quorum is 3 (if you have a 50% quorum requirement). We may be talking in circles but from what you wrote, I got the impression that if anyone showed up, that filled the quorum requirement. You can't have a board meeting or make any decisions without a quorum of the board, which is usually a majority of those who are elected to be there. In the above example, 3 board members.

It becomes foggier when it comes to the owners and a quorum for a general meeting. The documents have to be looked at carefully, because they often say a % of those eligible, or "in good standing". To me that means that owners who are behind in their assessments may not be able to be counted towards a quorum. Then some documents don't mention that in the quorum requirements, but do mention it it in the voting requirements, which could mean a delinquent owner attending a meeting could count toward a quorum, but not vote.

Joe

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