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Board Member is knowingly breaking the city laws for number of animals and also community rules.

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SuzyC
Posts: 36
Posted:
I don't know how to bring this to the board without being a "snitch"

.#1

One of our board members has 4 cats and a Pitbull in her 2 bedroom 880sq ft condo. It is against the law. the city's law of 4 pets max over the age of 4 months. ... and she makes everyone know about her animals.

#2

This board member has an authorized bamboo covering that extends past her balcony railing which clearly goes against the approved mesh chicken wire that is only suppose to go to the top of the railing. THe bamboo privacy thing extends about 3 ft above.

How do you bring this to the attention of the board without appearing like a snitcher... as I am also on the board. I was forced to remove my "unapproved lattice" a couple of years ago.

advice?
GeraldT4
Posts: 1,022
Posted:
SuzyC - If a member of your association, on or off the Board, sees something that is not in accordance with the laws, he or she should bring it to the attention of the Board and or MC. The perception of others should not dictate the right course of action. Since you are one in the same, member and Board member it's your choice how to bring this up. If it were me however, I'd handle this in the role as a Board member by stating you noticed something that you believe needs attention and request it be added to the Board agenda for future discussion. I'd do this when the Board next convenes. Once you do this, it's out of your hands and in the hands of the Board to get added to the agenda or not.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Another thing is that SHE is a Board member and this is not a good example of her ability to follow the laws and rules of the association on governing and enforcing what she was elected to do. Follow Gerald suggestion and get it added to the Agenda for the next meeting. You can say that "it has been brought to my attention" and hope that she does not take it personnaly at you. But even if she does, you are doing what is expected of you as a Board member.
GeraldT4
Posts: 1,022
Posted:
DonnaS - I think I need lasik!! Missed the part where the cat owner/kennel proprietor (LOL) is a Board member. I now can see where SuzyC may be concerned about the perception or tension that may be created by her bringing this to light. But..I still stick to my post. Precedent may be set if nothing is done to take corrective action. Tough spot to be in but, oh well!! : )
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
there is always the option of typing an anonymous letter, and mailing it to the board anonymously. that way, you are free and clear of having to do anything hard.

However, I know the weight I would have put on an anonymous complaint when it came to my board, and i will tell you this route is frequently less effective than those suggested by the others before me.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Brian,
We as my Board, do not address any complaint, written or otherwise, that is not signed with a name. If you do not have the gutts to take the responsibility of acknowledging who you are, the complaint is not validated.Sorry folks, the heresay and anonimity is worthless unless we are dealing with the witness protection program and that doesn't even work.
DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

Gerald,
I miss a word now and then and it sure does change the meaning of what we are saying or reading. Example, Anna, about her drainage ditch. My notes said to call SFWMD on the ditch. Did I post it? Nope!! forgot to read my own notes. DUH!!! So, It happens.
HaroldS (Arizona)
Posts: 906
Posted:
Well, my opinion is that a board member, of all people, should live absolutely within ALL the rules all time. Otherwise, how can they have the gall to sit in judgment of others while being in violation themselves?
You said she makes no bones about having the animals, so it is common knowledge. Even flaunting it. It needs to be brought up. I would have no qualms reporting this board member to the city if your board won't do anything about it.
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
Donna, I agree with you, which is why i alluded to "the weight I would put on an anonymous complaint". However, with my luck here, had i said what you said (we ignore anonymous complaints), I would have been pilloried, perhaps even drawn and quartered for my lack of ethics, attitude, frivolous dismissal of a complaint from those i was elected to serve and represent, ad naseum. I am trying to not start more problems than i can handle.

And not succeeding.

BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
Forgot one other piece of advice we forgot to offer: since this violates the city code, contact the city and let them deal with the issue first.
MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
We have absolutely no problem accepting anonymous complaints. I don't know what difference it makes if it's signed or not if it's a valid complaint.

Once the complaint is received it is then assigned to a board member to verify. I also think it's inappropriate to assume that someone is basically a chickensh**t if they can't sign their name.

There may be any number of valid reasons a person may be concerned about signing a complaint.

Especially in a neighborhood.

However, if the board investigates and there is no violation then there is nothing to pursue. No harm; no foul.

If the board investigates and there IS a violation, then it makes no difference how the notice of the violation came to us.

If it's a good enough system for our metro police and if it's a good enough system for our animal control organization, among only just a few of the numerous institutions that accept anonymous complaints, then it's good enough for our paltry lil HOA.

And it's not "hearsay" if it's been witnessed and verified.

MicheleD (Kentucky)
Posts: 4,491
Posted:
By the way, I meant to add, however, that we probably wouldn't be taking the animal complaint anyway.

Our CC&Rs do not restrict pets by number, only the vague "not operating a business" with them.

But if it truly is against your city's code, I'm pretty sure you can contact your city's animal control function/office/enforcement and drop the dime -- and still remain anonymous if you wish. That's the way ours works. =]

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