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EdieL (Virginia)
Posts: 86
Posted:
Interesting postings. Just one more comment!!
As a Real Estate Developer and a Real Estate Broker, I need
to have my say on this matter. I wrote an article in May of 1996
(published locally) about the long and short term real estate cycles.
Too detailed for this site. As a developer and real estate broker I tried
to inform my clients/purchasers/sellers. The American greed of "what I want
when I want it" is bigger than those of us that use facts and logic. This
statement includes our banks! They don't even understand the cycle. Or
maybe they actually do, in that now their money will be loaned out to
the big investors that are picking up the forclosures. Remember, cycles
also create another whole enity of the wealthy (remember the tech. stock
market boom?) It did not happen overnight. Cycles from bottom to top and then
back down, is not felt by the adverage consumer for at least three-five years.
Our real estate market actually hit the top in 2002. from there we were down hill.
we won't see "real daylight" until 2010. The feds and news will just keep trying
to feed us!!
Edie
GeraldT4
Posts: 1,022
Posted:
I sold my townhouse in 2003 for a handsome profit, purchased a newly constructed townhouse low enough that I won't realize as much of a profit if I had to sell it now, but will probably be immune from the 10 - 20% additional correction of home prices that is expected to occur in the next year or two. In other words I will probably luck out and not see my home be worth less than what I paid. Unfortunately it seems 8 million households are not as lucky.A good article is at the following link http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/28/beck.commentary/index.html

From now until early 2009 I predict is the time to buy if you don't have another mortgage, or have the cushion to invest. Tough times are ahead that's for sure. God help us if there is any sort of global event that occurs on top of our economic downturn.
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
Let's see if i can plant my tongue far enough into my cheek....

Edie, i have to say I can't really believe you. Some of the other members of the community here are pretty darn sure that no one could have predicted this subprime mess, and that no one provided any warnings about it. There was no way anyone could have known this would happen, so, i find it hard to believe your claim that you spoke about the inherent dangers of it way back in 1990's.

(ouch, i think i bit it)
GeraldT4
Posts: 1,022
Posted:
BrianB - I tend to agree with you and would like to know what was the basis for the prediction. The article I sighted has a line in it basically to the effect that there was a short time period (2 years) from boom to bust leading up to the Great Depression and how no one could have predicted what would occur. Timing the market is extremely difficult if not impossible. I was lucky to have sold high. The same townhouse I sold 4 years ago is on the market and listing for only $9,900 more. When you deduct the amount of upgrades the new owners put into the townhouse (I've seen it since) and Realtor fees, closing costs, etc. they will loose a considerable sum of money. I'm still scratching my head on this one. What I sold it for was very reasonable for the comps and the condition of the unit.
EdieL (Virginia)
Posts: 86
Posted:
I still have a copy of the article I wrote.
Would be glad to fax it to you.
Edie
MikeS1
Posts: 668
Posted:
Edie - I'll have to agree with you. Having been a real estate agent for 8 years and having sold new homes for builders for about another 6 years and having lived in NOVA since 1967; I have to say, that's just the way it's been around here. It's really interesting that you and I know and can feel the tide switching, but the newspapers apparently don't see it. I always attibuted that to the fact that the newspapers generated so much ad revenue from the real estate industry that they weren't about to upset the apple cart. Despite the market conditions, builders are going to build if they can get the money, and banks are going to lend money using the preset guidelines. Yes, I do believe that no one around here is old enough to remember all the cycles or swings in this market. Prior to this last downturn, I was saying "bubble-Bubble" for 2 years prior to when prices started fallen. One of the reasons, that you have to realize this, is due to the high number of investors that were playing flip-this-house with the builders. Once the investors cashed in their chips and left town, the hand-writting was on the wall. It always used to really bother me that you could see so many people abusing the lend-rules and tax laws when they purchased the property as if it was going to be owner occupied, scamming everyone, including the lender and then you see that the purchaser has plugged a renter into the home. Life goes on.
EdieL (Virginia)
Posts: 86
Posted:
MikeSl
Apparently BrianB follows our clients that would not listen.
I would also like to know what Brian means by
"other members of the community here.."
Is this a site that there is a back door for only a few select
"members"? Regardless, Hope everyone has a great day!!
Edie

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