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JimH29 (Florida)
Posts: 63
Posted:
Our Association documents state that the our Association “shall” appoint members of the Association to “serve at the pleasure of the Board” on an Architectural Review Committee. Docs say that a minimum of three members be appointed to the ARC.

The BOD choose to disband the ARC at their last meeting as the President did not “like the direction that the ARC had taken”.

Neither did many of the Association members agree with the direction, or lack of enforcement unilaterally against the most common abuses that the current ARC was taking.

A few of us put forth a list of members of the Association to step up to fulfill this vital role.

It was rejected by the OD president outright.

What would you consider our alternatives at this point?

Thanking you in advance for your insights.
JimH29 (Florida)
Posts: 63
Posted:
Should have mentioned that we are In Florida.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,348
Posted:
Legally the President does not make these decisions. The Board does. See if you can persuade a member of the board to make a motion to re-instate the ARC and find good people to serve on it.
BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 982
Posted:
I agree with ElleN, it sounds like the President is overstepping their bounds. Typically, the President has the power to create committees and appoint committee chairs. Appointment of Committee members is often (not always) left to the Committee chair. But your governing docs may disagree. In my very limited experience, the existence of the ARC is mandated by the By-laws or Covenants, and changing that to eliminate the ARC would (probably) require a supermajority of owners to vote and agree. Also: as you go through your governing documents: there are committees, and then there is the ARC, which is a special committee that probably has special rules associated with it.

Yeesh, I just noticed you're in Florida. Which I believe has quite a lot of state law on the topic of HOAs. So you should probably look into that in addition to your governing documents.

Bill

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,348
Posted:
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Posted By BillD16 on 06/17/2026, 1:01 PM

Typically, the President has the power to create committees and appoint committee chairs. Appointment of Committee members is often (not always) left to the Committee chair.

?

I have never seen governing documents that give the President these powers.

I have never seen governing documents that give the power to appoint committee members to the committee chair.

Do your HOA's governing documents say the President and committee chair have these powers?
BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 982
Posted:
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Posted By ElleN on 06/17/2026, 3:19 PM


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Posted By BillD16 on 06/17/2026

, 1:01 PM

Typically, the President has the power to create committees and appoint committee chairs. Appointment of Committee members is often (not always) left to the Committee chair.
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?

I have never seen governing documents that give the President these powers.

I have never seen governing documents that give the power to appoint committee members to the committee chair.

Do your HOA's governing documents say the President and committee chair have these powers?

Yes, our governing documents do this. Forgive me, I currently don’t have the time or energy to look them up and quote them here.

Bill

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
JimH29 (Florida)
Posts: 63
Posted:
Our docs do not state that the president selects/appoints a chair person. The committee select their own chairs at the first meeting each year. Generally, the chair stays on in subsequent years unless they specifically say they are no longer interested in serving in that role.
JimH29 (Florida)
Posts: 63
Posted:
I am in the process of scouring Fl state laws to gather more info.

I was not present at the meeting where this was accomplished . I am wondering if there was a motion to appoint the entire BOD to be the ARC. It was relayed that after the next BOD meeting is over they would subsequently hold an ARC meeting to address all open ARC requests. If the ARC does not meets within 30 days, any request within that timeframe is automatically allowed. If there was no appointment, then I believe that they have no power to approve or reject an owners request…..
BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 982
Posted:
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Posted By ElleN on 06/17/2026, 3:19 PM


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Posted By BillD16 on 06/17/2026

, 1:01 PM

Typically, the President has the power to create committees and appoint committee chairs. Appointment of Committee members is often (not always) left to the Committee chair.
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?

I have never seen governing documents that give the President these powers.

I have never seen governing documents that give the power to appoint committee members to the committee chair.

Do your HOA's governing documents say the President and committee chair have these powers?

Ellen, you had expressed curiosity about what my neighborhood’s governing documents said about appointing committees. Here they are:

ARTICLE 13.
COMMITTEES
13.1. Other Committees. The Board by resolution adopted by a majority of votes available to be cast by the Directors, may designate one or more other committees. Except as otherwise provided in such resolution, Members of such committee or committees shall be Members in good standing of the Association (or the designee of a Member in good standing), and the President of the Association shall appoint the Members thereof.
13.2. Term of Office. Each Member of a committee shall continue as such until the next annual meeting of the Members of the Association or until his successor is appointed unless the committee shall be sooner terminated, or unless such Member shall be removed from such committee, or unless such Member shall cease to qualify as a Member thereof.
13.3. Chairman. One Member of each committee shall be appointed chairman by the President of the Association.
13.4. Vacancies. Vacancies in the Membership of any committee may be filled by appointments made in the same manner as provided in the case of the original appointments.
13.5. Quorum. Unless otherwise provided in the Declaration or the resolution of the Board designating a committee, a majority of the whole committee shall constitute a quorum and the act of a majority of the members of the committee present at a meeting at which a quorum is present shall be the act of the committee.
13.6. Rules. Each committee may adopt rules for its own government not inconsistent with these Bylaws, the Declaration or the Rules.

They may not be exactly what I stated earlier, but they’re close.

If you want to make the case that my HOA is “unusual” - I most certainly will not argue the point.

Bill

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,348
Posted:
Thank you BillD16. I googled on the phrase "the President of the Association shall appoint the Members thereof," and several HOA/COA bylaws (among other non-profits' bylaws) came up.

On the other hand, I figure if the rest of the Board does not like the committee members the President chooses, the rest of the Board can always replace the President by a simple vote of the directors.
JimH29 (Florida)
Posts: 63
Posted:
Members of the various Committees are nominations by a. Nominating Committee. Although not mentioned in the bylaws this has been an ongoing SOP.

Our bylaws mention nothing of the President from appointing members or chairpersons. The bylaws state that serving is at the “pleasure” of the BOD. There have been members of the certain committees removed after being appointed by the BOD, not the President.
JimH29 (Florida)
Posts: 63
Posted:
Bill,

Our docs does not have a Section on Committees.

What you posted is a terrific starting point for our community shall we ever wish to document procedures in developing a section devoted to committees. Thanks.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,348
Posted:
FS 617 says that, when the bylaws and AoI are silent as to the appointment of committee members, the board appoints them.
JimH29 (Florida)
Posts: 63
Posted:
The BOD appoints the names based on a solicitation of those interested in servicing as canvassed by the Nominating Committee.
JimH29 (Florida)
Posts: 63
Posted:
The issue becomes…there is no ARC as there are no homeowners appointed to the ARC. There have been 4 people who have volunteered, 2 with experience and 2 new to serving. The President is a memo said, when the suggestion from another BOD member, after being g told of the 4 members of the Association were interested, simply said the BOD has voted and and has no interest in revisiting the issue.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,348
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Posted By JimH29 on 06/20/2026, 6:33 PM

The issue becomes…there is no ARC as there are no homeowners appointed to the ARC. There have been 4 people who have volunteered, 2 with experience and 2 new to serving. The President is a memo said, when the suggestion from another BOD member, after being g told of the 4 members of the Association were interested, simply said the BOD has voted and and has no interest in revisiting the issue.

Then the issue is with the board. If the board will not take action, then your options are to either (1) lawyer up or (2) run for the board and win a board majority with people who feel as you do.

Else rarely are there any other magic words that will persuade HOA directors to change their minds and comply with the governing documents.

I know it is frustrating. Everyone here has walked in your shoes.

City councils and county commissions love sticking all the work on volunteer citizens who have little clue about their legal obligations as a HOA/COA board member. Meanwhile the courts hate HOA disputes.
JimH29 (Florida)
Posts: 63
Posted:
Thanks for input. Should be interesting to see what happens going forward.. will post with an update to this saga.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,073
Posted:
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Posted By BillD16 on 06/20/2026, 6:04 PM

and the President of the Association shall appoint the Members thereof.
13.3. Chairman. One Member of each committee shall be appointed chairman by the President of the Association.

Personally, I think the Board should appoint committee members, not one person (i.e. the President).

I also believe it is best for the committee to choose a chair person (they are the ones who have to work together).
BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 982
Posted:
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Posted By TimB4 on 06/21/2026, 5:21 AM


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Posted By BillD16 on 06/20/2026

, 6:04 PM

and the President of the Association shall appoint the Members thereof.
13.3. Chairman. One Member of each committee shall be appointed chairman by the President of the Association.
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Personally, I think the Board should appoint committee members, not one person (i.e. the President).

I also believe it is best for the committee to choose a chair person (they are the ones who have to work together).

I get what you’re saying. Around here, pragmatically, if Mr. X is really interested in the new ‘European’ club, they’ll volunteer to the Board or the President, get appointed as Chair, and then invite his friends Midge, Chris, Billy, and Warren, and perhaps any interested passing stranger to join. Although typically with large committees, most members just eat Vienna sausages and sleepwalk through their private lives.

[I tried, but I couldn’t fit Astradyne, Western Promise, or All Stood Still in there]

Bill

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
JackS20 (North Carolina)
Posts: 274
Posted:
if you sue the board can just appoint themselves as ARC committe and decide everything gets passed. the real problem in the first place is the ARC committee has way too much power and every HOA docs I've read give them the ability to approve or deny anything based on their opinion alone.

You want to fix the situation best bet is to write objective ARC guidelines and have them voted into the CCRS. this subjective power tripping is the problem to begin with.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,348
Posted:
every HOA docs I've read give them the ability to approve or deny anything based on their opinion alone.
Every HOA doc I have read is clear the board can throw out an ARC decision.
JackS20 (North Carolina)
Posts: 274
Posted:
ours doesnt' allow the board to throw out the ARC decision, but in reality, no one has volunteered to be on the ARC for 4 years and the board has just rubber stamped approval on every request during that time period. We will be voting to remove all subjective ARC terms this Fall as a CCR amendment. several page amendment to the current CCRs to finally make it objective.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,348
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Posted By JackS20 on 06/22/2026, 8:13 PM

ours doesnt' allow the board to throw out the ARC decision,

If the board can remove members of the ARC, then the Board can throw out ARC decisions.
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 861
Posted:
I am always surprised that HOA's that have an ARC allow this committee to have the power to accept or deny a request. The three letters are Architectural "Review" Committee. They should be reviewing all of the requests carefully make sure that all of the documents are part of the request. This Review committee then should ONLY render a recommendation to the Board.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,790
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You state the Board disbanded the ARC, which is their right to do so when the members are not performing their duties properly.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,790
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Posted By MichaelS56 on 06/23/2026, 8:38 AM

I am always surprised that HOA's that have an ARC allow this committee to have the power to accept or deny a request.  The three letters are Architectural "Review" Committee.  They should be reviewing all of the requests carefully make sure that all of the documents are part of the request. This Review committee then should ONLY render a recommendation to the Board.


There is numerous HOAs where the board approved the standards and the ARC interprets and approves.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,073
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Posted By MichaelS56 on 06/23/2026, 8:38 AM

I am always surprised that HOA's that have an ARC allow this committee to have the power to accept or deny a request.  The three letters are Architectural "Review" Committee.  They should be reviewing all of the requests carefully make sure that all of the documents are part of the request. This Review committee then should ONLY render a recommendation to the Board.

From my understanding, some Associations will allow the ARB, ARC, ACC (pick your acronym) to make the decision for 3 reasons:

1) It provides an appeal process for a member who might disagree with the decision - they can appeal it to the board.
2) It frees up time - Most Directors are also serving as Officers, have a family life and a day job which all demand your time. If the Association is self managed, that requires more time.
3) It provides members an opportunity to become involved without the commitment of serving on the Board.
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 861
Posted:
This committee consists of owners who are not elected by the owners to make final decisions, the board members are elected to run the association. Fortunately, our association has an ARC that helps the board but does not make final decisions only recommendations to the Board.

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