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NameW1 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
I need to rally other owners to vote for new board members who campaigned on positive change. I tried many things. I tried contacting people in person, using social media, and sending mail to the owner address on county records. I got very low response. We had the biggest group of members in years show up to the meeting but still not enough to reach a quorum so the board was quite happy to say no election would be held and they would just appoint board members for those whose term expired.

Currently I want to make a group of about 5-10 members and we demand together to examine the financial records. I want a group with me because I've already been targeted with unfair rule enforcement and I have evidence the board has also committed libel or slander against me.

I'd like to build a group large enough to vote in new board members to drive change. Ideally replace all current board members.

My main question is: What actually works to rally other owners?

Also open to general advice. Prefer to use political methods vs suing them as lawsuits are expensive.

Thanks

^^ Question is above, everything below here is just for context

(And for perspective, here's why we need new board:

1) No audit in years- audits are required by state law in Texas for condos. Audits are also required by our bylaws. True financial condition unknown.
2) No documentation of regular board meetings, board decisions, who the board officers are, members are only invited to one in person meeting per year
3) Alarming Maintenance issues
4) Ridiculous rules and biased enforcement of them
5) Horrible customer service by the management company
6) Extremely limited communication other than 1 in person meeting / year. General lack of transparency.
7) Contractor management issues- recently launched a major project that required engineer design with no permit, no engineer
8) Lots of rumors and possible evidence the board is using their position for self dealing to acquire more units.
)
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
Nameless,
For the best advice more information regarding your HOA is usually best and I mean not specific names.

How many Homes/Condos in your HOA?

How many board members are on your board?

How long have board members been on this board?

How old is your HOA?

Have you ever ran for a board seat?

How long has your existing PMC been with your HOA?

I am interested in your concerns but without more knowledge most on this site will be left to speculate on the unanswered questions above.
JackieB4 (California)
Posts: 398
Posted:
Dear nameless, I agree with Mark that more info would help with appropriate comments. Community apathy seems to be universal. Unfortunately, until AN ISSUE affects that person/family, most choose to ignore. We are a "nice community" of 140 SFH's. Our meetings are every 2 months...and even with Zoom, NO MEMBER attended or participated @ our recent meeting. Lack of interest, enthusiasm, or concerns opens the door for mismanagement, especially $$$$$. DEEP BREATHE, you are not alone.
NameW1 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Mark & Jackie,

Thanks for asking questions:

About 250 condos.
The bylaws specify there are 5 board members and I verified 5.
HOA is about 50 years old, the pre-1990 TX PROPERTY CODE CHAPTER 81 (https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/?tab=1&code=PR&chapter=PR.81&artSec=) applies
I ran for a board seat. Like I said above the board says quorum (50%) was not reached at the meeting, therefore a vote was not held.
Unknown how long the property manager has been here, at least several years.

Yes, well said Jackie, community apathy is the biggest problem. The desired result is either A) Show up to one meeting a year and vote or 2) Sign their proxy over to one of the new board members.

(I'll go do some deep breathing exercises now)

Nameless
NameW1 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Note- certain provisions of Texas PROPERTY CODE CHAPTER 82 ( https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/?tab=1&code=PR&chapter=PR.82&artSec= ) also apply. But my understanding is that in Texas there is no enforcement unless you hire an attorney, spend $100k in a local court and are successful getting a motion to compel.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
Name,
It looks like your best chance for a real election may have to wait till the existing board needs to raise dues. I forgot to ask about your reserves and when the last time your dues were raised. This is usually everyone wants to find out what is going on and people attend the meeting.
NameW1 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Supposedly, according to the unaudited figures they shared with us, there are about about $600k in reserves.

They also did about a 3% increase to dues at start of 2025, our dues per sq ft are about in the middle compared to other nearby condos.

OK the best idea so far is to lay in wait for something to happen and be ready to rally the members to vote for new board members at that time. Are there any other good ideas to rally the members or otherwise improve the association?
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
Name,
Any attack on the board usually is best from within where you have all the facts. From the outside you are just considered a crazy person.

When I was elected to my first board nearly 20 years ago and was assigned the Treasurer position, I was able to quickly see that our existing president was doing several things that were first illegal and second unethical. I gather all the data to positively prove my case and had him dead to right. I exposed him to the board that he still controlled the majority of votes. I told the board that if he doesn't step down, I would send a letter to the community (438 SFHs) with the information. He did not step down, and I sent the letter and offered anyone the opportunity to see the data for themselves. No one took me up on the offer, but he and another friend were not reelected. I gained the majority support of the board and took over as president. It was ugly for a while but that's what it takes to make big changes. Just make sure that you have All the facts before you accuse anyone of mis deeds.

Do you have volunteers ready to fill any board seats that make open if a quorum is established?
NameW1 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Mark, Thanks very much for sharing your experience and advice. Great story!

On this forum, under a pseudonym, I listed out several concerns, all of which are verifiable without being on the board. So far, when trying to rally people, I have NOT shared that list. Instead I gave them a nicely worded campaign piece for myself and running mate, listing out positive things we were going to do, different than what the current board is doing. We identified maintenance is the community's top concern. So our top campaign issue was (and still is): 1) Regular meetings with updates on maintenance progress. Other issues 2) Records of all meetings published to members 3) Review and update all rules, get rid of all bad rules and policies 4) do the state required audit etc.

We have 2 people ready to serve. I'm working on recruiting a 3rd person. Also looking for 2 more to offer full replacement. I also have a core group of people that the current board hurt badly and chats almost daily about issues and plans. I have lists of about 10 other members who signed proxies to me and don't like the board but don't want to get involved.

And the point of this forum is how to rally members. Now are building a list with ideas from MarkM19, and #4 inspired by Mark talking about getting information. 5 is something my group is working on. Here is the list of ideas how to rally people:

1) Wait for a political opportunity that wakes people up, for example when the current board increases dues
2) Get at least 1 person onto the board and that person can get all the facts
3) Have volunteers ready to serve on the board
4) Exercise our right to inspect financial records, if we find anything bad, publicize it.
5) Nonpolitical social events, just to try to help people meet each other.

I greatly appreciate help from the community improving this list.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
Name,
I usually refrain from commenting on Condo associations because I am not that familiar with the laws that govern. Our HOA in Texas that is a SFH HOA and has 1400+ homes had an issue reaching quorum before I was elected to the board. They were able to lower the quorum by rule to a much lower and attainable level. I am not a lawyer, but this may be something that could be brought up as to why this has not been done to the PMC.

Regarding the financials have you tried to make an appointment with the PMC to go to their office and review the documents that have you concerned? The documents should be available to all owners. They may try and scare you stating that it will cost 25 cents per page to print them for you but should be free to look at in the office. Not sure what your relationship is the PM but hopefully if you ask nicely, it would go better than making demands.
NameW1 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
I agree with looking at records. If everything is run well, we will see it in the records. If there is a problem, we can address that. Looking at records is #4 on our list. A small group of us will go together and do that soon.
BryonW (Massachusetts)
Posts: 55
Posted:
Hi NameW1 - If your bylaws and state allows, you could try to collect proxies from unit owners who can't attend the meeting.

A common sales/psychology tactic: if a person says "no" to a big ask, they will often say "yes" if you follow up immediately with a smaller ask.

Can you make it to the meeting to vote?
I'm not sure.
Ok, I understand. Would you sign this proxy form so that your vote can be counted even if you aren't at the meeting?
NameW1 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
BryonW Great idea thanks for sharing a quick easy sales pitch.

I need to add at the last meeting I walked in with 23 proxies signed over to me. It was not enough. Next time I need to get many more. And I have allies who will also help me get proxies signed over to them.

1) Wait for a political opportunity that wakes people up, for example when the current board increases dues
2) Get at least 1 person onto the board and that person can get all the facts
3) Have volunteers ready to serve on the board
4) Exercise our right to inspect financial records, if we find anything bad, publicize it.
5) Nonpolitical social events, just to try to help people meet each other.
6) Get members to sign proxies over to allies who will reform the board
JonG3 (Florida)
Posts: 13
Posted:
Rallying owners is genuinely hard. most people don't engage until something personally affects them. A few things that tend to work: door-to-door conversations, specific dollar amounts get attention faster than general complaints (people care when you say "we're paying $X with no audit" not just "there's no transparency"), and having even 3-4 committed people makes others feel safer joining.
For your financial records demand, put it in writing as a formal request. I believe in Texas, owners have statutory inspection rights, and a written demand creates a paper trail if they stonewall you.
On the election quorum problem, check your bylaws carefully. Some allow reduced quorum thresholds for adjourned meetings, which could be your path in.
AnneB7 (Minnesota)
Posts: 9
Posted:
I will admit to not knowing Texas law.

One would suspect that that Texas Attorney General's office may have a few thoughts on the subject- certainly seems like there is some not above board logistics playing out.

Have you tried speaking with the board members individually? See where they stand?

I have found that AI gives me some good ideas of where to look for information- my HOA board is a little on the ... shall we say Wonkey side too...

One thing to remember, most people like to complain about the HOA, but few remember that THEY are the HOA. I always get a kick out of people who say, "I'm going to Sue you." I ask, "Why would you sue yourself?"

As a last resort, perhaps figure out who the HOA attorney is- they have every reason to listen and tell the board to quit doing illegal things if what you share are indeed against Texas/Federal law or could result in a lawsuit.

Good Luck!!
NameW1 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
JonG3 thanks for the tips. We are studying the bylaws very carefully and will soon go inspect the financial records.

AnneB7 In Texas there is no help. The Texas attorney general will not help us. The legislature produces nice sounding laws and regulations with no enforcment other than members paying for a super expensive lawsuit in the local court that may win or lose. And like you said, suing your HOA sucks. This is why an another thread I argued we need a law in Texas that members can force their property associations to submit to binding arbitration, which is much cheaper than a lawsuit.

Speaking to members of this board- this board is very closed and secretive. It's very difficult to even discover who the board members are.

Hmm, your idea about the attorney is interesting. Would be nice to know who the attorney is, but I doubt they would listen to the members in any way.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
The attorney works for the corporation at the direction of the Board.

They are not an attorney for the members and, if they respond, will charge the Association for their time which may cause additional issues for you if the Board wants to recoup that money.

As for knowing who the Board is, go to the Texas Comptroller Site and do a search for your Association. If the Association is in good standing, you can see who the Directors/Officers are (based on the previous year).
NameW1 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
TimB4 the comptroller entry for my condo association says "report not on file". The county recorder's documents for my condo association only list the name of the management company as agent. There is no TREC certificate on file at www.hoa.texas.gov-none.

Only of my neighbors knew the name of a board member and she only knew one. Last year it took me 3 months of emails to the management company back and forth asking who all the board members are, what their terms of office are to finally get an official response. This information should be readily available and easy to find. For simply wanting to know who serves on the board and their term dates I was also attacked, slandered and subjected to bogus violation of rules.

Later, at the one and only meeting held per year they said the names of the board members who served up to that time. At that meeting they said they would not hold election or follow the published agenda of the meeting since there was no quorum, they set the agenda aside and took some questions from the group but never published any minutes. They said nothing at the meeting about their terms or who would be appointed. One of them said she was the president. They did not say who is treasurer or serving as any other office. There is nothing written naming who the board members are. They don't publish any newsletters.

Any questions that anyone asks are met with delays, strong resistance and accusations to the person asking. Many of us wonder why the board is so secretive and opaque.

I am building a group to reform this HOA. I've had some good suggestions on this forum thread that am using and will take any advice or help I can use. Thanks!
NameW1 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
My HOA board currently has either secret meetings or no meetings at all, and does not post any minutes or records of decisions they make in the portal they provide members, even though there is a folder in that portal for them to post their meeting minutes. I was really sad that Texas 209 doesn't apply to old Texas condos because Texas 209 requires open board meetings.

BUT, great news, I just figured out that Texas Property Statute 82.108 applies to all condos in Texas. This requires them to have meetings, the meetings have to be open, and they have to record minutes of any decisions made outside of meetings.

Read it yourself here: https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/?tab=1&code=PR&chapter=PR.82&artSec=

This will be our leverage to demand open board meetings.

RossP1 (Texas)
Posts: 4
Posted:
That 82.108 find is significant. If they've been holding closed or informal meeings and not recording minutes of decisions, that's a clean statutory violation you can put in writing — not just complain about. I'd send a formal letter (not email if you can help it) to the board citing 82.108, requesting the dates and minutes of all board meetings held in the last 12 months, and giving them 15 days to respond. If they don't, you have a documented request they ignored. That's useful when you eventually need to show a pattern to other members or an attorney.

On the quorum problem — check whether 82.108 has anything about adjourned meetings. Some Texas statutes allow a second-call meeting to proceed at a lower threshold if the first meeting lacks quorum.

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