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LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
update on this thread.

https://www.hoatalk.com/Forum/tabid/55/forumid/1/postid/383418/view/topic/Default.aspx

I went to court today , pro se.

The judge granted my TI!

I am immediately reinstated as a board member until the trial.

I also was able to get the judge to reinstate in person board meetings.

I'll give more details tomorrow. I'm exhausted.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Congrats.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,333
Posted:
Brava, LaskaS.
BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 971
Posted:
Woo-hoo! I'm very happy to hear this. Congratulations! When you feel up to it, I'd love to read some details. Did anyone from the other side show up? I confess I'm curious about their reaction.

Bill

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
hello,

Ok, noone from the other side showed up other than the association attorney.

This is what's interesting, the association attorney(who i have worked closely with for the past several years with great success for the association) ended up showing up.
Even though the board handed the case over to our insurance carrier , the insureance carrier didn't respond yet. Thus, the association attorney told the board showed up to represent the association.

The attorney( that i thought i had a good working relationship with) was arrogant. I had everythig practiced and every point he brought up, I had already anticipated and h ad the correct response.

The attorney thought he was going to be able to have the ti hearing rescheduled. I objected.

At the end, the Judge didn't grant the TI as I had written it. He wrote out his own,(this is the first time his court clerk had ever seen this).
I am immediately reinstated to the board with all participation and rights to information and notices that every board member has up until the underlying case is decided

Instead of putting the trial on the docket at some future time (which i was told would be 8 months or a year away) he fast tracked it and the trial is actually set for March 5.
I also asked that he enjoin the board from relying on anything they decided in the nov 26th board meeting (one week after the void special meeting of owners) because i was excluded from participation. The two things i wanted enjoined were relying on the vote for a new board president, the new president then making a motion for all future board meetings to be held via zoom only.

The judge asked me why i objected to zoom meetings. I said, I don't object to zoom being an option. I object to the board eliminating the in person option. Which is contrary to our bylaws which call for a time and "place". I said the board is not using them for convenience, but as a way to entrench themselves and limit participation.
The attorney argued that all of his associations he represents meeting by zoom now. He also mentioned that recent legislature actually permitted board meetings to be held by zoom.
I countered , they did officially permite zoom meetings, but specifically they said governing documents that stipulate a place will still have to remain an option.
The judge ordered all board meetings to be held in person.

The attorney was pissed.
When we left the courtroom he didn't even wait for me to ride the elevator down. When i was heading home. I decided to stop by his offices( I have stopped by his office on numerous occasions over the past 3 months to discuss the current situation and ask what I could do outside of sueing.

Long story short, He yelled at me like I haven't yelled at me and told me to get out of his office and how dare I come to his office.

It was bizarre. But I guess he didn't like losing. He was very confident that he was going to get the hearing rescheduled.

As for the board, When I got home I sent a short email letting them know the outcome of the TI hearing. Noone said a thing.

I later got a rude email from the attorney... It's so comical i'm going to paste the contents here for comic relief.(redacted of course)

Laska:

Your email below to the Board members of the Association sent mere minutes after court today, was forwarded to me, at my request. Those Board members are also copied on this email by me.

You are here notified and instructed to cease and not initiate or send any emails or other communication with any Board member regarding, dealing with, or relating to the above referenced lawsuit you have brought against the Association. I have instructed all Board members not to reply or otherwise respond to any emails from you regarding the Litigation; that includes your email below

You are currently in litigation with your lawsuit against the Association. Because of the Litigation, it is axiomatic that you, the claimant, do not have any communication regarding the Litigation with these Board members, the Defendant. To the extent this demand and instruction angers you, please direct that anger to me rather than your fellow Board members since it is me making such demand.

b++++ +++++++y

I responded with..

Mr B++++ +++++y
Why would i be angry. The judge granted everything I asked for.
I have every right to notify the board of a court order.
Please make it clear to the board that I am immediately reinstated until the disputes are decided in court.
For the record...
It was not "mere minutes" after court today. It was an hour after court...

The judge said immediate reinstatement.. not wait for a while

JackS20 (North Carolina)
Posts: 271
Posted:
congrats. Put hiring a new association attourney on next meeting's agenda. I'd highly recommend recording all future board meetings. Not sure what state you are in, but in some states its allowed withuot gettting everyone's permission.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Don't get too ticked off with the attorney.

He was representing his client, The Association, as directed by the existing board.
You are simply on the other side now.

The Board can, and should, leave you out of all discussions dealing with the case.
Simply make sure that those discussions are considered executive sessions and entered into from, and adjourn back to, an open board meeting (that you should be invited to).
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,333
Posted:
The HOA attorney's actions described in the above post were entirely correct. This includes the yelling and other things you think were "comical."

At some point I think you will start to understand what an attorney's obligations are to a client. In this case the attorney's client is the HOA corporation and takes direction from a board majority. You are in an adversarial relationship with the board. The implications of this legally are huge. The HOA attorney is required //by law// to treat you with a certain amount of hostility, as part of his obligation to zealously represent the HOA.

You are pro se in this litigation. By law, a pro se individual is held to the same standards as a licensed attorney. By law, you are not to be involved in any discussions with the board about this litigation until and if the HOA attorney permits it.

Otherwise:

Good job in court.

I predict things will not be pretty in the future, especially if this same attorney tries to continue with the HOA as his client. For this particular litigation (with you as the plaintiff), I suspect there is a very strong argument that the HOA attorney must, by law, withdraw from representing the HOA, regardless of how he feels about the strength of the HOA's case.

I think the attorney knows he is in quick sand. It is his own fault. It's a pity because he is on the side of "right."

LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
I don't think it's By law that I am not to be involved with any discussions regarding the litigation.

I was thinking over what had occurred in court that could have made the attornies attitude change 180.

Before the judge arrived, the attorney informed me that no hearing would occur today, he guaranteed it.
I expressed my disagreement with his opinion and told him I absolutely wanted the ti hearing to proceed.

During the discussion at the bench with the judge,the attorney told the judge that he had only found out he was representing the association the previous night.

I responded and told the judge that he may have only gotten confirmation last night, but He was notified about the expedited ti hearing the day after the judge signed it.Which was Jan 7th. Because I sent the notice to him via email and he responded.

The judge asked him for clarification and it turned out he had to admit that he did get notice on january 7th. The judge raised an eyebrow and said something to the effect , that should have been plenty of time to prepare.

I think when the judge catches an attorney in a lie, it's a pretty big deal.

ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,333
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LaskaS on 01/18/2026 9:40 AM
I don't think it's By law that I am not to be involved with any discussions [with the board] regarding the litigation.
You did zero research to come to this conclusion, right?

In the past, you have been an above average student.

See Rule 4.02 at https://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home&Template=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&C27271 , page 80.

Do you also need the citation for the fact that as a pro se party, you are required to abide by the rules of professional conduct for the matter under litigation, as if you were an attorney?

Rule 4.02 exists to protect the sanctity of the judicial process. When a client is represented by counsel, as this board/HOA is, one communicates strictly with counsel on the matter in litigation.

If you continue communicating with the board about this litigation, then you do so at your own, very high peril.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,333
Posted:
LaskaS, on the other hand, I do appreciate this update. It will help others. Thank you.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,333
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LaskaS on 01/18/2026 9:40 AM
I
I think when the judge catches an attorney in a lie, it's a pretty big deal.
The attorney did not lie. In another thread you revealed that the attorney said he told the board that he would not represent the HOA on this issue.

Fact: This attorney gave you legal advice in the past in your efforts to fight a board majority. One way or another, the attorney had both you as a de facto client and the board/HOA as a client. The Rules of Professional Conduct prohibit this. This just one good reason why he was right to try to get out of representing the HOA at this hearing.

If I were this attorney, I would consider resigning all together from representing the HOA. Why? Because of the risk of sanctions from the Texas attorneys' disciplinary board.
LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
Acually, I did a lot of research. I think it's it's a difference of semantics.

Key Distinction:
Laws (Statutes): Passed by the Texas Legislature
Rules: governing lawyer behavior and the State Bar's function.

My point is, I was not talking to the board about the litigation, I simply sent an email to all of the board members regarding the outcome of the ti hearing.

I agree the attorney needs to recuse himself. However, he did not explain the potential conflict to the judge, which would have been a valid reason to delay.
instead he provided half truths in response to the judges question about notice. I can't speculate as to why he chose not to inform the judge of the potential conflict of interest issue.

I think the attorney's insinuation that they don't know anything about the issues because he was just notified the night before that he was going to represent the association at the ti hearing is disingenuous. The truth is, he knows everything about the issues. If he doesn't recuse himself, I will file a request based on the fact that he is very likely a material witness.

LaskaS (Texas)
Posts: 1,025
Posted:
For the record, he didn't give me advice on how to fight the board majority.

He answered very specific questions that i presented which confirmed my understanding of the statute and bylaws and declaration etc.

It wasn't like he was on my side or on the boards side. He's not that dumb.
However, based on my rereading the correspondence between myself and him over the last 3 months. He does give conflicting answers. The more I think about it, he's been pretty slimy. Noone thought I was actually going to file suit.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,333
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LaskaS on 01/18/2026 2:29 PM
Acually, I did a lot of research. I think it's it's a difference of semantics.

Key Distinction:
Laws (Statutes): Passed by the Texas Legislature
Rules: governing lawyer behavior and the State Bar's function.
Nope, it's not semantics. The enforcing agency of the Rules of Professional Conduct is a branch of government known as the Commission for Lawyer Discipline. The rules are enforced as law.
Quote:
Posted By LaskaS on 01/18/2026 2:29 PM
My point is, I was not talking to the board about the litigation, I simply sent an email to all of the board members regarding the outcome of the ti hearing.
Of course you were talking to the board about the litigation. You were also telling the board what to do. This is not your place.

Quote:
Posted By LaskaS on 01/18/2026 2:29 PM
I agree the attorney needs to recuse himself. However, he did not explain the potential conflict to the judge, which would have been a valid reason to delay.
He could not explain the problem without prejudicing his client's case. That's why he kept quiet.

Quote:
Posted By LaskaS on 01/18/2026 2:29 PM
instead he provided half truths in response to the judges question about notice. I can't speculate as to why he chose not to inform the judge of the potential conflict of interest issue.

I think the attorney's insinuation that they don't know anything about the issues because he was just notified the night before that he was going to represent the association at the ti hearing is disingenuous. The truth is, he knows everything about the issues. If he doesn't recuse himself, I will file a request based on the fact that he is very likely a material witness.
Attorney client privilege precludes his being called as a witness. That privilege continues even when he is not the HOA's attorney.


DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
Sounds to me that an attorney representing the HOA did not file a timely motion for continuance and asked for the continuance during the hearing. That seldom works.
BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 971
Posted:
Wow!

Just some random comments:

Yeah, the attorney was PO'ed - you beat him! I'll guess that all along his strategy was to get the hearing rescheduled (delay is a legal tactic going back thousands of years). But he failed. His response about your email to the Board "mere minutes after court today" may indicate that your email to the Board arrived before *he* had a chance to tell them.

I suspect that *this* is going to make the Board and friends extremely unhappy.

Re you not communicating with the attorney or the Board re this lawsuit: that's my understanding of it. I'm not familiar with the exact law, but I'd suggest that it is largely to your benefit to not communicate with them about this matter, simply because it's to your advantage to keep them in the dark. And be very careful what you communicate to the opposing attorney, as well. If he comes back to you with some kind of apology, I'd be very wary.

I'm not an attorney (ie, don't take anything I say too seriously), but I wonder if now *your* best strategy is to attempt to delay the March 5th hearing.

Bill


HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 971
Posted:

{I was interrupted while I was writing and posting, and the result was not what I intended. So I’m going to repost with a few edits}

Wow!

Just some random comments:

Yeah, the attorney was PO'ed - you beat him! I'll guess that all along his strategy was to get the hearing rescheduled (delay is a legal tactic going back thousands of years). But he failed. His response about your email to the Board "mere minutes after court today" may indicate that your email to the Board arrived before *he* had a chance to tell them (with the appropriate “spin”). I suspect it made him look bad.

{the judge ordered future meetings to be in person}

I suspect that *this* is going to make the Board and friends extremely unhappy.

Re you not communicating with the Board re this lawsuit: that's my understanding of it. I'm not familiar with the exact law, but I'd suggest that it is largely to your benefit to not communicate with them about this matter, simply because it's to your advantage to keep them in the dark. And be very careful what you communicate to the opposing attorney, as well. If he comes back to you with “hey, I’m sorry about the other day, let’s go have a drink and discuss” - I'd be extremely wary.

I'm not an attorney (ie, don't take anything I say too seriously), but I wonder if now *your* best strategy now is to attempt to delay the March 5th hearing.

I don’t know any of the personalities involved, but I wonder if one or more of them might just say “Hell with it!” and quit / give up and give you what you want. I do not get the idea that everyone on the other side is hard-core unified against you.

One last thing: it occurs to me that the attorney fellow is (again) PO’ed. They may conclude “this isn’t worth it” and quit. Or - they may decide to get very serious about making life difficult for you. I don’t mean anything illegal, just - be aware that next time you see them in court, they may be extremely well-prepared. I get that you like the DIY aspect - but if things begin to get legally complex, you may want to bite the bullet and pay an attorney to (at least) consult on the proper course. I’ve heard stories about lawyers filing extraneous motions and stuff to confuse a pro se opponent.

I wish you the best on this!

Bill


HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”

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