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Question for Treasurers/Board Members: What is the biggest hurdles to managing your reserves?

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UtkarshM (California)
Posts: 4
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Hi everyone,

I am trying to learn about the operational workflow of HOA Boards, specifically regarding how reserve funds are managed "behind the scenes."

It seems there is often a gap between what a Board wants to do (fiduciary optimization, better diversification) and what they actually can execute due to logistical friction.

I am trying to identify exactly where the process drags the most.

I am looking to speak with a Board members and Treasurers to understand the administrative reality you face. I’m not looking for financial numbers; I’m looking for the incetive-related workflow bottlenecks, such as:

- The Information Gap: Do you feel you have clear visibility into your options, or is digging up that information a project in itself?

- Compliance Paralysis: Are you paralyzed by the fear that buying a 'safe' bond might still technically violate a state statute (like in FL or CA)?

- The Approval Chain: Does moving funds require physical signatures, board votes that get lost in minutes, or in-person bank visits?

I am not selling a service. I am currently trying to map out the "administrative friction" that prevents Boards from operating efficiently.

If you have ever felt like managing your association’s finances takes 10x more effort than it should, I’d love to ask you a few questions about your experience. Please email me at [email protected] or message me here if you can!

I'd really appreciate it! Thank you for your time.
DeanJ
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Posted By UtkarshM on 01/08/2026 4:32 AM
Hi everyone,

I am trying to learn about the operational workflow of HOA Boards, specifically regarding how reserve funds are managed "behind the scenes."

It seems there is often a gap between what a Board wants to do (fiduciary optimization, better diversification) and what they actually can execute due to logistical friction.

I am trying to identify exactly where the process drags the most.

I am looking to speak with a Board members and Treasurers to understand the administrative reality you face. I’m not looking for financial numbers; I’m looking for the incetive-related workflow bottlenecks, such as:

- The Information Gap: Do you feel you have clear visibility into your options, or is digging up that information a project in itself?

- Compliance Paralysis: Are you paralyzed by the fear that buying a 'safe' bond might still technically violate a state statute (like in FL or CA)?

- The Approval Chain: Does moving funds require physical signatures, board votes that get lost in minutes, or in-person bank visits?

I am not selling a service. I am currently trying to map out the "administrative friction" that prevents Boards from operating efficiently.

If you have ever felt like managing your association’s finances takes 10x more effort than it should, I’d love to ask you a few questions about your experience. Please email me at [email protected] or message me here if you can!

I'd really appreciate it! Thank you for your time.

You may be searching for an issue that doesn’t exist in the majority HOAs.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
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I did my Associations first reserve study.
It did take time to get the info I needed.
If we had had a clubhouse or pool it would have also taken money for professional evaluations from an engineer.

If an Association has a decent to good reserve study, then problems are minimal as you have a guide to tell you when maintenance is required.

Placing money into the Reserve account (typically a savings account) was treated as an expense to the operation budget and just paid as with any other normal bills.

Spending money from the reserves should require board approval (documented in meeting minutes).
Once approved, the Treasurer would transfer funds from the reserves to the operational account (typically the checking account) and the approved contract for the reserve work was paid.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By DeanJ on 01/08/2026 6:16 AM

You may be searching for an issue that doesn’t exist in the majority HOAs.


Based on the email address provided by the OP, it sounds like a student project/paper and they are trying to get info to write it.
UtkarshM (California)
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I often hear that HOAs manage vast pools of reserve funds that sit in bank accounts that generate the lowest possible return. Not even enough to deal with inflationary rise.

As a thought experiment, if HOAs were able to choose easily from various safer, compliant and FDIC-insured investments (T-bills, CDs, Money Markets, HYSA, etc.) while ensuring the lowest possible friction to invest (information gaps in seeing ROI, state compliance, Board and Member approval, reduced middle man cuts), I argue that HOAs would be more financially resilient (to fight inflationary increases per year, to grow their reserves and maybe even pass assessment cuts to members).

My paper essentially argues that "lazy money" (even outside of just HOAs) fails to be invested due to the complexity of the environment it functions in. That, this money, can provide the highest yet safest return to its owners if systems didn't make it complicated. I wonder and hope that I am not just beating a dead horse?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Unless the governing documents or State laws prevent it, HOA Boards are allowed to "invest" funds.

The board also has a fiduciary responsibility to not lose principal when investing.
The funds also have to be available when needed (which may be earlier than expected).

This is why most associations simply leave the funds in a savings or money market account.

Additionally, HOA Boards are ran by volunteers who may or may not have their own agenda (I want to allow above ground pools as an example) or may not have the time to truly devote to HOA business.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By UtkarshM on 01/08/2026 10:13 PM
I often hear that HOAs manage vast pools of reserve funds that sit in bank accounts that generate the lowest possible return. Not even enough to deal with inflationary rise.
The only way to deal with inflationary rise is by investing in stocks and so taking risk, risk that is legally incompatible with HOA directors' fiduciary obligations.

I am hoping the above is just poor writing on your part. Otherwise it shows a grave misunderstanding of HOA directors' fiduciary obligations. It also suggests that you are on the young side, who thinks that returns from stocks in the last ten years are normal and not risky. Stocks are incredibly bloated right now. They are more risky than usual.
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Posted By UtkarshM on 01/08/2026 10:13 PM
As a thought experiment, if HOAs were able to choose easily from various safer, compliant and FDIC-insured investments (T-bills, CDs, Money Markets, HYSA, etc.) while ensuring the lowest possible friction to invest (information gaps in seeing ROI, state compliance, Board and Member approval, reduced middle man cuts), I argue that HOAs would be more financially resilient (to fight inflationary increases per year, to grow their reserves and maybe even pass assessment cuts to members).

My paper essentially argues that "lazy money" (even outside of just HOAs) fails to be invested due to the complexity of the environment it functions in. That, this money, can provide the highest yet safest return to its owners if systems didn't make it complicated. I wonder and hope that I am not just beating a dead horse?
Every HOA of which I know that has meaningful reserves has the reserves invested in either a money market account or CDs.

I have no problem with your arguing that financial illiteracy in and outside of HOAs results in poor investing decisions. But be careful about judging too much, given you may not be up to spread on non-profit corporations' fiduciary duties.

ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By ElleN on 01/09/2026 8:31 AM

I have no problem with your arguing that financial illiteracy in and outside of HOAs results in poor investing decisions. But be careful about judging too much, given you may not be up to spread
Post-o. Change "spread" to "speed"
BillD16 (Texas)
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I remember trying to deal with elements of this when I was new to the Board a few years ago.

- One of the biggest issues I had was simple non-responsiveness on the part of the PM / PMC: (with the Board's permission) I asked them to set up an additional laddered CD. The PM said "okay, on it" but never did anything. Complaining to the PMC was no help, and the Board couldn't care less, and so it was more-or-less luck when the PMC was bought out and the new owners were more responsive.

- Still, it was extremely difficult to get information from the PMC and their financial institution. I eventually managed to get them to advise us when CDs were rolling over so they could be re-invested at the highest possible rate. But I was never able to get them to respond about things like 'networking' CDs to maintain FDIC insurance.

- I'm no longer on the Board, but I know that last year the Treasurer didn't allocate any money to fund the reserves because they didn't even know it was a thing. I don't believe they knew what a reserve study is, either.

Just me, but I'm pretty much okay with limiting the kinds of investments that an HOA can make. The Savings & Loan Crisis of the 1980s was largely the result of S&Ls / thrifts being allowed to make risky investments in things like fur-bearing trout farms{1}. Given my experience with HOAs and Boards and PMCs and the people who run them, I think it would be downright foolish to allow them too much latitude in the investment of reserve funds.

Bill

{1} P. J. O'Rourke, Parliament of Whores

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

ā€œYou can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactorā€
DeanJ
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Posted By UtkarshM on 01/08/2026 10:13 PM
I often hear that HOAs manage vast pools of reserve funds that sit in bank accounts that generate the lowest possible return. Not even enough to deal with inflationary rise.

As a thought experiment, if HOAs were able to choose easily from various safer, compliant and FDIC-insured investments (T-bills, CDs, Money Markets, HYSA, etc.) while ensuring the lowest possible friction to invest (information gaps in seeing ROI, state compliance, Board and Member approval, reduced middle man cuts), I argue that HOAs would be more financially resilient (to fight inflationary increases per year, to grow their reserves and maybe even pass assessment cuts to members).

My paper essentially argues that "lazy money" (even outside of just HOAs) fails to be invested due to the complexity of the environment it functions in. That, this money, can provide the highest yet safest return to its owners if systems didn't make it complicated. I wonder and hope that I am not just beating a dead horse?

HOAs are able to choose easily from various safer, compliant and FDIC-insured investments (T-bills, CDs, Money Markets, HYSA, etc.)
Why do you believe they can’t and where to you believe they are investing the funds?
UtkarshM (California)
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Posted By ElleN on 01/09/2026 8:31 AM
Posted By UtkarshM on 01/08/2026 10:13 PM
I often hear that HOAs manage vast pools of reserve funds that sit in bank accounts that generate the lowest possible return. Not even enough to deal with inflationary rise.
The only way to deal with inflationary rise is by investing in stocks and so taking risk, risk that is legally incompatible with HOA directors' fiduciary obligations.

I am hoping the above is just poor writing on your part. Otherwise it shows a grave misunderstanding of HOA directors' fiduciary obligations. It also suggests that you are on the young side, who thinks that returns from stocks in the last ten years are normal and not risky. Stocks are incredibly bloated right now. They are more risky than usual.
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Posted By UtkarshM on 01/08/2026 10:13 PM
As a thought experiment, if HOAs were able to choose easily from various safer, compliant and FDIC-insured investments (T-bills, CDs, Money Markets, HYSA, etc.) while ensuring the lowest possible friction to invest (information gaps in seeing ROI, state compliance, Board and Member approval, reduced middle man cuts), I argue that HOAs would be more financially resilient (to fight inflationary increases per year, to grow their reserves and maybe even pass assessment cuts to members).

My paper essentially argues that "lazy money" (even outside of just HOAs) fails to be invested due to the complexity of the environment it functions in. That, this money, can provide the highest yet safest return to its owners if systems didn't make it complicated. I wonder and hope that I am not just beating a dead horse?
Every HOA of which I know that has meaningful reserves has the reserves invested in either a money market account or CDs.

I have no problem with your arguing that financial illiteracy in and outside of HOAs results in poor investing decisions. But be careful about judging too much, given you may not be up to spread on non-profit corporations' fiduciary duties.


Hi ElleN,

To clarify, I completely agree that a Board's primary obligation is to preserve principal, adhere to state laws and governing documents, and avoid speculative risk.

My goal isn't to judge, but to understand why investment friction (like PMC opacity or high fees) exists for some but not others. I’ve heard instances where Property Management Companies (PMCs) are opaque about investment options, or where "middlemen" fees from investment management firms essentially squeeze out the already modest returns from those safe vehicles. I fully admit I might be focusing on a specific segment of the market that lacks the financial prudence you’ve described, which is exactly why I am here—to learn and test my assumptions.

If you (or anyone else reading this) are open to a brief chat, I’d love to pick your brain: https://calendly.com/mehtautkarsh5595/learning-session-reservetrust
UtkarshM (California)
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Posted By BillD16 on 01/09/2026 3:00 PM
I remember trying to deal with elements of this when I was new to the Board a few years ago.

- One of the biggest issues I had was simple non-responsiveness on the part of the PM / PMC: (with the Board's permission) I asked them to set up an additional laddered CD. The PM said "okay, on it" but never did anything. Complaining to the PMC was no help, and the Board couldn't care less, and so it was more-or-less luck when the PMC was bought out and the new owners were more responsive.

- Still, it was extremely difficult to get information from the PMC and their financial institution. I eventually managed to get them to advise us when CDs were rolling over so they could be re-invested at the highest possible rate. But I was never able to get them to respond about things like 'networking' CDs to maintain FDIC insurance.

- I'm no longer on the Board, but I know that last year the Treasurer didn't allocate any money to fund the reserves because they didn't even know it was a thing. I don't believe they knew what a reserve study is, either.

Just me, but I'm pretty much okay with limiting the kinds of investments that an HOA can make. The Savings & Loan Crisis of the 1980s was largely the result of S&Ls / thrifts being allowed to make risky investments in things like fur-bearing trout farms{1}. Given my experience with HOAs and Boards and PMCs and the people who run them, I think it would be downright foolish to allow them too much latitude in the investment of reserve funds.

Bill

{1} P. J. O'Rourke, Parliament of Whores

Hi Bill,

Thank you for sharing that detailed account. The specific friction points you mentioned are exactly the types of operational hurdles I am trying to understand.

I'd love to learn more about those experiences and the specific barriers you faced. I'm also curious if you have a sense of the status of the market today outside of your own HOA?

I'd love to have a quick chat if you're open to it. Here is my calendly link, you can copy and paste this in a new browser and it will give you time slots to choose from: https://calendly.com/mehtautkarsh5595/learning-session-reservetrust
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By UtkarshM on 01/09/2026 10:02 PM
I’ve heard instances where Property Management Companies (PMCs) are opaque about investment options
Do consider studying the education level of HOA managers. High school graduate (no bachelor's degree) is extremely common. What does this tell you?

If you are writing a thesis or paper for possibly publication, consider not using the word "friction." It is not erudite the way I am pretty sure you think it is. It is not an accurate way to characterize less than optimal management of HOA funds.

A lot of the problem with less than optimal management of HOA funds is little different from the challenges that state or federal governments face. The applicable cliche (for HOA Boards and legislatures alike) is, ā€œIf you like laws and sausages, you should never watch either one being made.ā€ Is there a psychology study in this? Group dynamics are an enormous area of research, to say the least.
JackS20 (North Carolina)
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Posted By DeanJ on 01/09/2026 7:14 PM
Posted By UtkarshM on 01/08/2026 10:13 PM
I often hear that HOAs manage vast pools of reserve funds that sit in bank accounts that generate the lowest possible return. Not even enough to deal with inflationary rise.
I wonder and hope that I am not just beating a dead horse?


HOAs are able to choose easily from various safer, compliant and FDIC-insured investments (T-bills, CDs, Money Markets, HYSA, etc.)
Why do you believe they can’t and where to you believe they are investing the funds?

Actually many HOA's cannot invest in T-Bills, HYSA & Money Market because their property management company makes it difficult on purpose! Somethings like T-bills aren't possible because they have to be taken out under an individual's name; the work around is to invest in a treasury fund. I tried that via Fidelity Investments and the Property manager dragged their feet for 10 months and incorrectly submitted the new account application at least 3 times, finally just refunded us $300 out of the $1500 of lost interest and we are suing them for the rest. Opening up an investment account for a non profit corporation is not easy. the terminology used on the forms is confusing. Property managers with High school educations are not fit to be filling it out.
JackS20 (North Carolina)
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Posted By UtkarshM on 01/08/2026 4:32 AM
Hi everyone,

I am trying to learn about the operational workflow of HOA Boards, specifically regarding how reserve funds are managed "behind the scenes."
......Please email me at [email protected] or message me here if you can!

It's estimated 30-40% of HOA's are self managed. The self managed ones are probably smaller, have less amenities and therefore do not need big reserves or any at all. They also by definition do not have a property management company that makes it difficult to transfer money to higher yield accounts.

I've only dealt with a few property management companies before switching our HOA to self managed, but this is what they have all had in commmon:

1. they force the board to transfer all money over to their prefered bank. This is because certain banks have HOA programs that automate funds collections via lock boxes, automatically reconcile bank statements for the property managers, etc. If they let every HOA they manage choose their own bank it would dramatically increase their work load.

2. Even though most management companies have contracts stating they only manage the Operating funds of the HOA, in practice they also want all the reserve funds transfered to their approved bank. Why? Because the banks give them a kick back,often called Earnings Credits (ECRs), from banks for depositing large HOA funds, which can create conflicts of interest and potentially cost the association lost interest or better rates, as the management company benefits without the board's knowledge, making transparency and contract review crucial. Banks offer these credits to management firms for pooling funds from multiple associations, sometimes giving lower interest rates to the HOA in exchange for these perks, which can be used to offset management fees or boost profits.

3. It is very common for one HOA property manager to manage 10 to 15 properties, they do not have any skills to suggest how to invest funds and even if they did , their bosses don't want the hassle.
JackS20 (North Carolina)
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A real world example. around 2021- 2022 our HOA got $22 in interest. Party because interest rates were not that great, but mostly because the mgt company was perfectly fine to not recommend the apathetic board do anything with the money. OUR HOA is tiny 150 homes with annual dues of $14,000 or about $90 per owner. HOA across the street has dues of $300 per month, large pool, HOA cuts everyone's grass, atheletic courts, etc.

We expect to get $4000 in interest this year, drop in the bucket for larger HOA's but that's 30% of our budget. We're opening up two new bank accounts to get a $1000 sign up bonus with one and $1500 with another. There is no way in hell our old property mgt company would of allowed that.

We just opened up a Financial Tech bank account which pays 2% interest on account funds and gives us 1.5% back for purchases. we'll be getting about 3.5% of our annual budget back. They also have a treasury fund investment option which is currently about 3.75%. No way would our old mgt company let us do this as well.

I disagree with HOA experts that say HOA funds should not be invested in stocks. for long term investments like roofs that are only replaced every 30-40 years it makes perfect sense because over that time period stocks do well.

The issue is there is no way to guarantee future boards dont' do something stupid like pull out reserve funds from stocks when they are low, or dump a lot of money into them when hot. Average board member is even less educated than the poorly educated property managers. They may know nothing about dollar cost averaging. Heck, 2 out of 5 of my own board couldn't even write a balanced budget last year. It's scary there are no requirements to be a board member other than living in the HOA.

JackS20 (North Carolina)
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I have never worked for a property mgt company, but my general feeling is they will recommend the CD's their bank owns and that's it. They never ever recommend anything better and their CD;s often have a gimmick high intial rate that goes down to some crap interest rate after a year if the board isnt on top of it an reinvest the funds within a 10 day period they allow.

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