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CherylB10 (Georgia)
Posts: 7
Posted:
Hello all, I entered a discussion earlier regarding our 3-year-old 55+ community heading into transition from the developer declarant control to the homeowners. I have been attempting to find out information regarding a loan and deficit losses that showed up in year 2 when the first 15 homes were sold. I am running up against deflection on just about every path I take. After writing a certified mail letter, I am currently waiting on a formal response from the declarant board for access to that year to see how the money was spent. In another request I had asked to see board meeting minutes or notes regarding the current budget and also authorization by the board to withdraw $17,000.00 from the Capital Reserves to pay operating expenses. Without naming any names other than to say both the declarant and the HOA management companies are very large, well-known businesses, I got this response, which does not sound like a real board even exists. It seems to violate state rules for a nonprofit and also does not align with our bylaws as written. I would like to ask this group of experienced folks if the situation is actually normal.

Here is the response I got to the question asking for the minutes of the board meeting.

"Thank you for your request regarding meeting minutes from the period when the community was under declarant control. During the Declarant control phase, the association did not operate under a homeowner-elected board, and therefore the Declarant was not required to hold formal HOA board meetings or produce traditional meeting minutes. Instead, the developer managed the Association’s affairs internally and maintained a running action-item list to track decisions, ongoing tasks, and community needs. Because no official board meetings were held during this period, there are no formal meeting minutes available to provide. However, the Declarant has fulfilled its obligations by managing the Association’s operations and will transition governance to the homeowner-elected board once the control period has ended."

Thank you for your opinions and/or advice. It helps.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
I don’t know the laws of your state, but it is common for state laws to exempt a developer for holding meeting during the development period. The developer still had to maintain financial records that were available to you pre purchase and today,

It is also common for builders to advance funds to the association and not clearly disclose those advances to the buyers.

Until the turn over to an owner board, you are rather powerless. It is very important during the turn over to the owner board to have a forensic audit of all the financial records completed to assure assessments required to be made by the developer were paid and the expenditures were proper.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,334
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Posted By CherylB10 on 12/30/2025 5:48 AM

Here is the response I got to the question asking for the minutes of the board meeting.

"Thank you for your request regarding meeting minutes from the period when the community was under declarant control. During the Declarant control phase, the association did not operate under a homeowner-elected board,
... and this is perfectly lawful. However, Georgia statutes do require that the Declarant appoint a Board. See the Georgia POA Act, section 44-3-227 (b). Presumably it did, perhaps as documented in the Articles of Incorporation on file with the state of Georgia.

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Posted By CherylB10 on 12/30/2025 5:48 AM
and therefore the Declarant was not required to hold formal HOA board meetings or produce traditional meeting minutes.
Though if there are board meetings, Geogia statutes require that the Declarant's board maintain "detailed minutes." See Georgia statute sections 44-3-231 (d) (1) and 14-3-840 (c).

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Posted By CherylB10 on 12/30/2025 5:48 AM
Instead, the developer managed the Association’s affairs internally and maintained a running action-item list to track decisions, ongoing tasks, and community needs. Because no official board meetings were held during this period, there are no formal meeting minutes available to provide. However, the Declarant has fulfilled its obligations by managing the Association’s operations and will transition governance to the homeowner-elected board once the control period has ended."
This may be the Declarant's "get out of jail free card." It's not clear that board meetings are required.

The statutes do allow actions without a meeting. The latter has certain requirements.

Statutes require the Declarant to hold annual members' meetings, with certain financial information then disclosed. Were annual members' meetings held?

Last piece of advice for now: What is right and lawful does not always win. Why? Because the Declarant has more money than you to pay an attorney.

CherylB10 (Georgia)
Posts: 7
Posted:
Hello ElleN, and thank you for your reply.
Regarding: Statutes require the declarant to hold annual members' meetings, with certain financial information then disclosed. Were annual members' meetings held?
Yes, they did hold homeowner meetings, but my discussions with homeowners indicate they never mentioned the loan or the compounding deficit losses. I am told by the HOA manager there are no minutes for those meetings either, because no homeowners asked any questions about the budget. Mainly I am trying to get as much leverage as we can for the transition. I have asked for and been deflected and/or denied access to the financial records for the second year when only 15 houses were sold. This is when the loan and deficit losses started. Our CC&B states clearly I should have access. I was required to ask in writing via certified mail when my online requests were deflected.

What I suspect, based on some wording from the HOA manager, is that the loan and compounded deficit losses, along with the 17K water bill caused by multiple temporary irrigation lines that were left to run for hours on end by the developer building management, as well as the declarant-approved withdrawal from the capital reserve fund to cover operational expenses this year, are planned to be part of the transition, and as the HOA manager stated, they are "negotiable." I am afraid the declarant is looking for a "clean" exit from the development. Meaning a situation where they say, "Here is our offer: we will forgive all this and do some punch list items in exchange for accepting the financials as is, waiving all future claims, and accepting full liability for anything they took on for the HOA with no recourse." Honestly, a lawsuit is not what I am looking for, just some transparency and an attempt not to see us get duped. We have to go into the transition with open eyes.

Thanks again for your answer it was appreciated.

CherylB10 (Georgia)
Posts: 7
Posted:
Thank you, Dean. I do appreciate your input as well as reading other comments on similar questions I have read.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,334
Posted:
CherylB10, I advise you find out how to get the owners represented by a HOA attorney experienced with transitions. Keep your list of concerns handy, but for now, and in my opinion, a HOA attorney versed in transition, and how the transition process works, are the only things you should be researching at this time.
CherylB10 (Georgia)
Posts: 7
Posted:
Thank you. I have approached the group of homeowners we formed about getting an HOA Attorney for the transition lined up. I appreciate your time and answer.

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