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EdwardE2 (Florida)
Posts: 1
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Our BOD gave cash tips to our landscaping company's employees. As the treasurer I need to reimburse the person on the board who gave the tips (we do not use petty cash). If anyone has had experience with this how did you record this in the accounting software? Are we forced to give the gratuities to the employer as a payment and have them distribute the cash? I have to report to the BOD the proper way of doing this going forward. Thanks.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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Did this board member act on his or her own in giving the tips or was this authorized by the board? Is there a vote recorded in board meeting minutes authorizing the tips – when I was on my board, we passed the hat and bought gift cards for our property manager and security offices as a thank you for their work. We didn't use association money, which is the easiest way to do this.

The board should already have policies and procedures instructing the treasurer (you) how to handle stuff like this. To wit, you don’t HAVE to give the employees a tip – they’re already being paid (or should be) by their employer, the landscaping company. Tips can be counted as income, so the board should have already consulted with the association accountant or tax preparer how this should be addressed.

If you don’t know the answer, I suspect the board doesn’t either and since this IS association money, they need to get the answer before anyone's reimbursed for anything. After than, I suggest they prepare a formal policy regarding gratuities, adopt it via a board resolution passed in an open meeting and then you proceed from there.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,339
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Posted By EdwardE2 on 12/09/2025 6:48 AM
Our BOD gave cash tips to our landscaping company's employees. As the treasurer I need to reimburse the person on the board who gave the tips (we do not use petty cash). If anyone has had experience with this how did you record this in the accounting software? Are we forced to give the gratuities to the employer as a payment and have them distribute the cash? I have to report to the BOD the proper way of doing this going forward.
Here is what is "proper": For HOAs, the IRS does not approve of tipping vendors or their workers. Why? Because this means the HOA has excess income. Under IRS law/rulings an owners' vote is supposed to occur to determine how the excess income is used. Under IRS law/rulings, exactly two lawful options are permitted: Either return the money to owners, or apply the excess to next year's budget.

-- Break the law and fudge the books to make the tips look like an expense associated with landscaping. Have the Board play dumb.

-- Have the Board split the tips evenly and pay for the tips out of their own pockets. Explain the mistake to owners and see if anyone wants to chip in to reimburse board members.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
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Posted By EdwardE2 on 12/09/2025 6:48 AM
Our BOD gave cash tips to our landscaping company's employees. As the treasurer I need to reimburse the person on the board who gave the tips (we do not use petty cash). If anyone has had experience with this how did you record this in the accounting software? Are we forced to give the gratuities to the employer as a payment and have them distribute the cash? I have to report to the BOD the proper way of doing this going forward. Thanks.

I realize there are HOAs that tip vendors, buy flowers for funerals, donate funds to non profits ect., but it is totally an improper expense of HOA funds.

Generally, your declaration provides for the board to collect assessments for the maintenance of the community, not tips and gifts. Now as the treasurer you are searching for the best solution for a bad decision.

I would have each board member submit a signed self prepared invoice for a vendor tip. All funds should be accounted for. If a member of your HOA wants examine the books, they should be able to discover your board is needlessly giving away HOA money and there should be a paper trail back to those people.

DeanJ
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Posted By ElleN on 12/09/2025 3:31 PM
Posted By EdwardE2 on 12/09/2025 6:48 AM
Our BOD gave cash tips to our landscaping company's employees. As the treasurer I need to reimburse the person on the board who gave the tips (we do not use petty cash). If anyone has had experience with this how did you record this in the accounting software? Are we forced to give the gratuities to the employer as a payment and have them distribute the cash? I have to report to the BOD the proper way of doing this going forward.
Here is what is "proper": For HOAs, the IRS does not approve of tipping vendors or their workers. Why? Because this means the HOA has excess income. Under IRS law/rulings an owners' vote is supposed to occur to determine how the excess income is used. Under IRS law/rulings, exactly two lawful options are permitted: Either return the money to owners, or apply the excess to next year's budget.

-- Break the law and fudge the books to make the tips look like an expense associated with landscaping. Have the Board play dumb.

-- Have the Board split the tips evenly and pay for the tips out of their own pockets. Explain the mistake to owners and see if anyone wants to chip in to reimburse board members.

Your advice is solid, but I doubt those board members will understand because they have bought into the tip everyone movement in the Florida and many other locations in the US.

JulieH4
Posts: 75
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For cash holiday bonuses for our mailman and porter, I am written a check for the amount needed. It is coded as an office expense. I cash the check and give out the bonuses. My bonus as property manager is included in my salary but written as a separate check and the clubhouse cleaner bonus is included in her salary and I just write the amount extra on that weeks check.

Hope this helps!
DeanJ
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Posted By JulieH4 on 12/11/2025 11:08 AM
For cash holiday bonuses for our mailman and porter, I am written a check for the amount needed. It is coded as an office expense. I cash the check and give out the bonuses. My bonus as property manager is included in my salary but written as a separate check and the clubhouse cleaner bonus is included in her salary and I just write the amount extra on that weeks check.

Hope this helps!

If I was on your board your practice of writing yourself any checks for expenses without receipts would not be acceptable.
BryonW (Massachusetts)
Posts: 55
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Hi EdwardE, I would record it the same as the landscaping expense.

I agree with DeanJ's suggestion that the board member who paid out the tips should write a memo, to stand-in as a receipt/invoice for the transaction.

I disagree that tips are improper. (assuming the tips were approved by your board, are not causing you to exceed your budget, and that the overall cost for the landscaping service is still reasonable, including the tips).

Boards generally have wide latitude to select vendors based on factors other than lowest price. Eg if bids for a service come in for $10,000; $12,000; and $15,000 - the board is well within their rights to choose the vendor at 12k or 15k, if they provide a better overall value. (faster service, higher quality, whatever). This isn't public procurement - there isn't a requirement to take the lowest bidder.

Conceptually, choosing to pay tips is similar to choosing the $12k vendor. Its just fine as long as the board approved it.
JulieH4
Posts: 75
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I understand what you mean Dean. I write them but the Board has to sign them. I don't sign checks for myself ever.

Have a great holiday!
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
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Posted By JulieH4 on 12/16/2025 10:52 AM
I understand what you mean Dean. I write them but the Board has to sign them. I don't sign checks for myself ever.

Have a great holiday!

No, I get it. But, how do you document the reimbursement? If a board member buys toner cartridges, they have a receipt. If they drive down the street tossing money out the window, not so much.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
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Have the Board member write up a receipt saying how much to each employee (names of the employees not needed).

This will give you a receipt.

In the future, the Board should have in the minutes that Director x may provide tips to [number] employees in the amount of $$.xx

This would provide documentation for the receipt the Director will create to be reimbursed.

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