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MarkK17 (Michigan)
Posts: 13
Posted:
We are an HOA with 9 families that are looking at replacing our paved road sometime in the next 5 years or so.

Our dues are currently set to cover normal expenditures and increase our assets by around $8k per year.

We are getting estimates of somewhere between $100K and $200K to replace the road.

How does anyone make something like this happen?
We are playing catch up from years of not planning for the future. The road is around 15 years old.

I can't imagine a loan being a good solution and a special assement may force some families to getting a personal loan which doesn't seem like a good solution.

Are grants available for HOA's?

Any ideas? Increase dues? Investments? Bake Sale? OK, forget the last one.

By the way, I can't seem to do any kind of search at this site. Any ideas?

Thanks
Mark
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,333
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Posted By MarkK17 on 11/11/2025 1:50 PM
We are an HOA with 9 families that are looking at replacing our paved road sometime in the next 5 years or so.

Our dues are currently set to cover normal expenditures and increase our assets by around $8k per year.

We are getting estimates of somewhere between $100K and $200K to replace the road.

How does anyone make something like this happen?
Increase dues and as needed, impose special assessments.

Your HOA is not the first to fail to play for reserve funding. As long as the board has backbone and realizes its obligations regarding maintaining this road, it will get the money.

Also the board should consider hiring a reserve specialist for a couple hours to explain best practices for saving for major infrastructure replacement.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,333
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Posted By ElleN on 11/11/2025 3:19 PM

Your HOA is not the first to fail to play
Change "play" to "plan".
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
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Posted By MarkK17 on 11/11/2025 1:50 PM
We are an HOA with 9 families that are looking at replacing our paved road sometime in the next 5 years or so.

Our dues are currently set to cover normal expenditures and increase our assets by around $8k per year.

We are getting estimates of somewhere between $100K and $200K to replace the road.

How does anyone make something like this happen?
We are playing catch up from years of not planning for the future. The road is around 15 years old.

I can't imagine a loan being a good solution and a special assement may force some families to getting a personal loan which doesn't seem like a good solution.

Are grants available for HOA's?

Any ideas? Increase dues? Investments? Bake Sale? OK, forget the last one.

By the way, I can't seem to do any kind of search at this site. Any ideas?

Thanks
Mark

You can forget about grants. The Calvary isn’t going to ride over the hill and financially save you. There are no investments that will return what you need in that time horizon. Your HOA and every owner is on the hook to pony up the money.

An estimate of $100-$200k is not an estimate, it a guess. I would start by getting 2 bids on replacement now and add 15% to get a rough estimate for 5 years.

$150k/9/60 is monthly assessment increase of $278 a month. Thats basically paying on an interest free 60 month loan vs taking a loan a paying interest. People will cry, but the alternative is an assessment of $19,000 in 5 years. If they can’t pay the $277, they can’t afford the $19k in 5 years either. You are far better to dish out the the tough love now.
MarkK17 (Michigan)
Posts: 13
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Posted By DeanJ on 11/11/2025 3:51 PM
Posted By MarkK17 on 11/11/2025 1:50 PM
We are an HOA with 9 families that are looking at replacing our paved road sometime in the next 5 years or so.

Our dues are currently set to cover normal expenditures and increase our assets by around $8k per year.

We are getting estimates of somewhere between $100K and $200K to replace the road.

How does anyone make something like this happen?
We are playing catch up from years of not planning for the future. The road is around 15 years old.

I can't imagine a loan being a good solution and a special assement may force some families to getting a personal loan which doesn't seem like a good solution.

Are grants available for HOA's?

Any ideas? Increase dues? Investments? Bake Sale? OK, forget the last one.

By the way, I can't seem to do any kind of search at this site. Any ideas?

Thanks
Mark


You can forget about grants. The Calvary isn’t going to ride over the hill and financially save you. There are no investments that will return what you need in that time horizon. Your HOA and every owner is on the hook to pony up the money.

An estimate of $100-$200k is not an estimate, it a guess. I would start by getting 2 bids on replacement now and add 15% to get a rough estimate for 5 years.

$150k/9/60 is monthly assessment increase of $278 a month. Thats basically paying on an interest free 60 month loan vs taking a loan a paying interest. People will cry, but the alternative is an assessment of $19,000 in 5 years. If they can’t pay the $277, they can’t afford the $19k in 5 years either. You are far better to dish out the the tough love now.

Thanks for your candor.

Its not a great position to be in but your suggestions are something to base a plan on.

Mark

MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 858
Posted:
Check with your city and determine if they will loan you the money and put the loan against the unit. If they do a loan, then at what percent and for how long? Instead of against a person, it is against the unit.
MarkF19 (Ohio)
Posts: 5
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My COA is doing similar, except we are 126 units & we are having to replace roofs at the same time.
We got a revolving credit loan. Told the homeowners about it all at lease 6 months ago. Both projects are being worked now.
It's a financial traumatic event, but there's no other way (at least for us).
MarkK17 (Michigan)
Posts: 13
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Posted By MarkF19 on 11/14/2025 6:33 AM
My COA is doing similar, except we are 126 units & we are having to replace roofs at the same time.
We got a revolving credit loan. Told the homeowners about it all at lease 6 months ago. Both projects are being worked now.
It's a financial traumatic event, but there's no other way (at least for us).

Yes, it seems we are not alone.
Our HOA was formed by the developer in around 2012 and families moved in slowly. The last home was built 2 years ago. Now that we are all here we realize that early on there was no reason to save for a new road. Now we have more traffic and more trucks and more road damage and in the next few years we may need to take some action. The road is not bad now but it isn't getting any better. Michigan is tough on roads.

How does your loan work? Our HOA has no physical assets so no collatera t borrow against. I don't care to do business that would loan me or anyone money without collateral. There is a special word for those folks.

Personally, the last thing I would consider is a loan. As someone said previously, If you don't like higher dues in the short term, you are going to hate paying the same amount with interest over time.

On another note, can anyone recommend a reserve funding sheet? Excel or Google sheets or something similar?

Mark
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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Have you conducted a reserve study? You have a young HOA and it sounds like people didn't realize that folks driving on the roads at varying speeds day in and day out would eventually require repairs and replacement. A savings account for this (aka reserve fund) should have been established, but developers have a nasty habit of not educating new HOAs about any of this stuff, and then homeowners are surprised that eventually the common areas do require major repairs and THEY are responsible for paying for them.

If the roads are your own asset, you'll need a plan for maintenance and major improvements such as repaving, and a reserve study can help you will determining what you'll need over the next 20 years or so and how much to save for. A reserve study specialist can do the first one and you might be able to handle the updated ones (usually every 5 years) on your own. But first, some education is appropriate. I usually suggest people go to the CAI website to get some of their educational resources on HOA issues, but Googling reserve funding sheet might help you find some templates. You still need some education so the template makes sense and you can use it for budgeting.

By the way, are you sure the roads are the association's only asset? Better read your documents to see if there's anything else the association is responsible for because that may also need to be included in your reserve study so you don't have this conversation again in the next 10-20 years.

There are also a lot of older conversations on this website about reserve studies and funding reserves, and some discuss DIY reserve studies. A few of the older posters might be able to post links to what they did, and you can learn from that. In any event, read a few of the older conversations, but bring your questions back to this one so you'll get updated information. Good luck!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
MarkK17 (Michigan)
Posts: 13
Posted:
Thanks Sheila,

I have been studying the Reserve Study concept for a few days. We have done a "ball park" estimate in the past but I'm looking for a tool that would include expenses and everything else in order to project how to get from today to a point in the future with X amount of dollars.

The Study would be reviewed at our annual meeting and would be used to set dues.

Whatever the developer or members did in the past is not worth spending a lot of time on. I'm interested in planning for the future.

I have read a number of posts regarding RS's and will continue to explore. I did see a few sample templates online that may be a good jumping off point.

Mark
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Mark,

We did our first reserve study ourselves. Wasn't great, but it was better than no study.

For our second study, we hired a reserve specialist.

Roads are calculated in square yards. Once you have that number, you can get a good ball park over the phone from most paving companies.
HOAs are small and not quick repeat customers. Therefore, prices at typically higher.
Management Companies tend to get lower quotes because they could be a yearly repeat customer (depending on how many Associations they represent).

10-12 years ago we were getting quotes of $14 and $16 per square yard (that was in northern VA).
Prices also adjust based on the price of oil.

If you want, I'll send you what we had.
You can use it as an example or a starting place for your own study.

Email me: [email protected]

I will say that after we did our first study, annual assessments had to be increased by 20 percent to fully fund.
Therefore, the more explanation and the earlier the explanation to the community the better chance of increased assessments being supported.

Tim
TerriS6 (California)
Posts: 3,284
Posted:
It depends on the condition of your roads and the type of surface you want. Asphalt, rubber asphalt chip seal, slurry seal. Roads don't have to be resurfaced all at once. Don't make current owners suffer for what prior boards failed to do. There is a happy medium.
MichelleG7 (Connecticut)
Posts: 66
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An assessment is the only thing to help. Maybe try to get a loan and assess for the payment of the loan. This is why I am the proactive one. You have to stay at least 5 years in front. I've been trying to get off the board for a year now. I'm the one who can do all and figure it out. Only way I will escape the board duties is to move out. That's my plan. I cant keep holding these babies hands anymore. I call them my foster kids. Its ridiculous. But if I did not do what I did in the past 10 years. We'd be in your situation. Its all about planning and raising those fees. Insurance industry for Condos is the main killer right now. The cost of insurance. If you didn't plan for insurance increases. That's what puts a lot of people in your situation.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
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Posted By MarkF19 on 11/14/2025 6:33 AM
My COA is doing similar, except we are 126 units & we are having to replace roofs at the same time.
We got a revolving credit loan. Told the homeowners about it all at lease 6 months ago. Both projects are being worked now.
It's a financial traumatic event, but there's no other way (at least for us).

A revolving credit loan is a type of open-end loan that allows a borrower to repeatedly draw from and repay funds up to a set credit limit. In other words, you put this on a credit card.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
What does your reserve study say the cost to replace the road would be? Does it need to be replaced?

I would start raising assessments year over year and put that money in your reserve account
and when you are ready to replace the road then levy a special assessment, this way it will lighten the blow.

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