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ChrisS29 (Florida)
Posts: 48
Posted:
Understanding that a recall cannot be filed 60 days prior to an election, or 60 days after an election, nor can the DBPR accept arbitration for a disputed recall in those 60 days.

How would it work if a recall is delivered to an attorney prior to the 60 day window, but the recall meeting to certify or not certify falls within the 60 day window?

Can the Board vote to not certify because of the 60 days, despite the petition being delivered 63 days prior? Wouldn't the 60 days still stand since the Association would then be filing the certified recall within the 60 days?

Hypothetically, whether the Board certifies or doesn't certify it, no one can file for arbitration at that point to find out what the correct decision was to make anyway since the DBPR will not accept it?
ChrisS29 (Florida)
Posts: 48
Posted:
I just rechecked what I was reading and it looks like I am wrong about recalls within the 60 days, it seems recalls can happen up to the day of the election but there is an enforcement dead zone for 60 days where the DBPR won't accept arbitration.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
If you have an upcoming election, why not run for a spot or support other candidates? If you and like-minded neighbors can rally together the community, you can vote out one or several candidates, depending on how many are running for reelection.

If the newbies make up a new majority, that could be the start of turning things around - the remaining incumbents either straighten up or you start the recall to toss them. Just be sure you have people ready to step up and volunteer for a spot if the recall succeeds.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
ChrisS29 (Florida)
Posts: 48
Posted:
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Posted By SheliaH on 09/27/2025 11:53 AM
If you have an upcoming election, why not run for a spot or support other candidates? If you and like-minded neighbors can rally together the community, you can vote out one or several candidates, depending on how many are running for reelection.

If the newbies make up a new majority, that could be the start of turning things around - the remaining incumbents either straighten up or you start the recall to toss them. Just be sure you have people ready to step up and volunteer for a spot if the recall succeeds.

That would be the perfect world, unfortunately the community has become ultra toxic in the last year and a half and a small but very loud and dishonest group of people that won't even run for the Board and take responsibility are the ones rallying what is now the fifth recall in that time. I've left the community but I still communicate with some people who have been trying to hold the place together and I've been trying to help them navigate the issues. Instead of doing things the right way they've abused the recall process to pick off and install naive people that are helpful to their interests, not the community's. If they start to smarten up, they get defamed in the neighborhood and the process starts again. It's a shame.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Yes, the people who bark the loudest do so because it intimidates people to the point they stay silent and hope the caca doesn't fly their way. This is when people have to remember they have more power than they realize.

You say this is a small group of people who keep raising hell- how big is this community? I'm always amazed when I hear one two or three people can frighten everyone else, even though they far outnumber the hellraisers. It's probably past time to call this bunch on their bulletin. Five recalls in as many years? What's wrong with the current bunch this time? And these people won't even run for a spot- why, then, is anyone listening to them? This is how bullies function bad unless people stand up to them, it won't stop.

I imagine to pull off a recall, the hellraisers have to get enough people to sign a petition to call for a special meeting to discuss the matter and vote- this us where the rest of the community has to tell them to sit their behinds down and not play. Don't sign the petition - they don't get the required percentage of homeowners, these folks will have to think of something else. Make them give you SPECIFIC reasons why another recall is necessary. That has to be backed up with real data, not just opinion (those are like assholes -everyone has one!) They have to provide SPECIFIC approaches to the problems and why that will work. And by the way, if they feel so strongly, why haven't they stepped up?

Look up Teddy Roosevelt's quote on people who only sit on the sidelines and criticize and then ask these people if they're actually going to step up this time. If they want to sit in the big chair and deal with all that comes with it, have at it and good luck. Until then, if the current board is doing the best it can and are transparent in what and why they do it, everyone should show their support and ignore these people - and tell them to their faces this has to stop- it's disruptive and real problems can't be addressed with all this nitpicking.

This approach will be loud and scary, and eat up more time, but you have to take the fight to them. Good luck to your former neighbors- it's great that your e trying to help. Here's hoping that will give them the courage they need.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
KevinS22 (California)
Posts: 10
Posted:
I'm honestly getting tired of these new HOA politics, It used to be honest people but now it seems people are avoiding our communities because of these politics.
ChrisS29 (Florida)
Posts: 48
Posted:
Unfortunately the community is scarred from a near decade of mismanagement and a Board at the time that was more interested in revenge on residents. That finally ended but the people who helped organize that first recall got a bit of an ego from it and people will believe whatever they tell them when they're out knocking on doors. That mentality of "well they were right the first time, so they'll be right every time". In the last few years about a third or more of the 260 units have sold and the new people don't know the history and get lied to as well. They've given reasons for the recall and they are all lies or heavy misrepresentations of what's happening today and what led them there.

Like I said, its a very toxic place but in all of the turmoil a board majority is finally in place doing positive work and these people out of spite would rather undo that.

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