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BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 971
Posted:
So I've attempted to research this on my own with no real success: Rules & Regulations.

Can someone explain to me - preferably with a few examples - what constitutes a valid R&R and what is invalid? I see 'explanations' that say stuff like "an HOA cannot impose restrictions on property use that are not contained in the declaration or bylaws" but can someone perhaps provide some examples of 'good' and 'bad' R&Rs?

For instance, last year my Board added some new R&Rs including a "Code of Conduct" (CoC) that prohibits cursing, verbal abuse, posting notices on people's doors, and many other things - I strongly suspect that much of it is unconstitutional. The text was not shared with the homeowners until afterwards. And in fact, it is unlikely that any of the sitting Board members actually read the CoC. That aside: is this CoC now a valid Rule / Regulation?

Our R&R document is a real grab-bag: it has a section on Leasing Information that says owners must provide lease / tenant information with 7 days of a valid lease. It has a section on Xeriscaping - separate from the similar section in the CCRs on Landscaping - which states that yards have to have at least 25% turf grass.

I'm not at all certain how valid those are.

Or, from another perspective: our Board seems to want to outlaw STRs. I do not believe our CCRs contain anything that can be used for that purpose. So what's to prevent the Board from tossing in a Rule about how all rentals must be 30 days or longer? Or does that have to appear in the CCRs? If so, why?

In short, I guess I'm asking if there is any simple bright line test for this stuff?

Thank you,

Bill

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 858
Posted:
Our Association has separated out Landscaping Standards, Architectural Standards from the Rules and Regulations. Our Rules and Regulations are based on Federal Laws, State Laws and City ordinances. Lastly, we take what is stated in our Declaration and place it into our Rules and Regulations.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,334
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Posted By BillD16 on 06/28/2025 11:01 AM
our Board seems to want to outlaw STRs. I do not believe our CCRs contain anything that can be used for that purpose. So what's to prevent the Board from tossing in a Rule about how all rentals must be 30 days or longer? Or does that have to appear in the CCRs? If so, why?
An HOA board can publish whatever gibberish (a rule, a policy, a resolution, et cetera) it wants. The real question is whether a court will enforce said gibberish.

I will assume your HOA's covenants are in fact silent on the issue of renting homes for the short term. Then what prevents the board from enforcing a prohibition on STRs? A court that finds no covenant exists to support the prohibition. Without a covenant, there is no contract between owners and the HOA on the point in question (STRs).

The following is an historically well-developed, long-established, basic legal principle of land ownership and liberty: People can do pretty much whatever they want on their own land as long as it does not violate covenants, statutes or others' rights. For the board to claim it can just create a rule out of thin air, with the rule having no basis in covenants or statutes, and lawfully enforce this rule, violates this long-established legal principle.

"Well-developed" means reams and reams of case law.

As to identifying when a board-created rule yada is legally enforceable and when it is not: Sometimes the line is bright. Sometimes it is not. Sometimes the cost of fighting the issue in court weighs more heavily than anything else. The more money one has, the more justice one gets.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Rules and regulations apply to common areas.
Policy Resolutions are used to clarify language, establish procedures or both.
Covenants (aka deed restrictions) identify what an owner may or may not do with their property.

Examples:

Rental limits - Covenants as it limits property use.

Pets must be on leash - Rules/Regs as it would only apply to having pets on common areas.

How assessment payments are applied when late fees are involved - a policy

Code of Conduct establishing behavior on common areas - Rules/Regs

Expecting that you are in a condominium complex - hallways would be common areas, so no notes on doors would be an valid rules/reg

BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 971
Posted:
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Posted By TimB4 on 06/28/2025 1:24 PM
Rules and regulations apply to common areas.
Policy Resolutions are used to clarify language, establish procedures or both.
Covenants (aka deed restrictions) identify what an owner may or may not do with their property.

Examples:

Rental limits - Covenants as it limits property use.

Pets must be on leash - Rules/Regs as it would only apply to having pets on common areas.

How assessment payments are applied when late fees are involved - a policy

Code of Conduct establishing behavior on common areas - Rules/Regs

Expecting that you are in a condominium complex - hallways would be common areas, so no notes on doors would be an valid rules/reg


Thank you, Tim, that helps a lot.

Do you happen to have a convenient citation that backs “Rules and regulations apply to common areas”? I believe it, but I can easily foresee being challenged on this point if I bring it up. The “Code” does not in any way indicate that it applies only to common areas.

“condominium complex - hallways would be common areas” - yeah, that makes sense, given that we’re not a condominium. Please allow me to explain: a year+ ago, for reasons that are murky, our HOA attorney sent us a “Code of Conduct”. I griped about it here at the time - it was not a good piece of work, and I strongly suspect the attorney handed it off to an intern, who then copy/pasted it together from a fast Google search. The initial version actually contained the word “condominium” in several places (which IMHO bolsters the notion that this “Code” was hastily cobbled together). I griped to the Board and the attorney about various issues with this “Code” - which resulted in the word “condominium” being removed / replaced. Then it sat and (I hoped) was forgotten about until after I was off of the Board. But the Board went and dredged it up and voted to add this “Code” to the R&Rs (without showing it to the homeowners, and also without even reading it themselves)(at the open meeting, just before the vote, one of the Board members stated “I haven’t read it, but I’ll vote for it!”). Long story short: we’ve got this huge piece of crap “Code” in our R&Rs. The only silver lining is that I don’t think anyone except me even knows it’s there. But it’s only a matter of time before someone notices it, and the HOA attempts to fine someone over some (real or imagined) disrespectful language, and … it just makes my head hurt.

Bill

HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Rules and regulations can be tweaked or dropped altogether, so which ones really concern you and why? Take them to the board - you may be correct in that they rammed this through without considering what may happen if someone challenges it in court and wins.

I hear the ex-president in you expressing legitimate concerns, but as you know, these folks might be inclined to ignore you due to past history (DB lady). You also know that sometimes you have to let life do what it do. If that means these people get their behinds handed to them by a judge, so be it. It's just unfortunate that the association may have to shell out legal fees and damages because of it.

It appears you're mostly concerned about the code of conduct. You didn't say what's in it, but it's one thing to have rules that can prevent association meetings from becoming a WWE throwndown, vs. sending a letter to homeowners expressing concern about a new policy. For the latter, I'd remind people its illegal to put it in the mailbox without postage, but I don't see a problem with folding it up and attaching it to a doorknob with a rubber band. Just throw it away if you don't want to read it.

Whatever your viewpoint is, keep speaking up and focus on the challenges of enforcement, then let them chew on your opinion- or not. If they try to use "violation notices" to shut you up, let them know you'll keep talking. I'm sure you know how to disagree without getting personal, so let them prove otherwise. The first amendment is still effective (for now), even for boorish language, which can be subjective.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
The only covenant that might apply would be that the Board has the authority to manage the affairs of the Association (which is also specified in corporate law).
The affairs of the Association would include control/use of common areas and common elements.
Examples: Pool hours, dogs must be on a leash, no drinking of alcohol in common areas, etc.

Restrictions to private property must be contained within the covenants.
This is supported by many court cases involving rental controls.

The board can not adopt a policy or create a rule that limits what you may do on or in your private property. Those limitations/restrictions would be within the covenants.

The board can adopt a policy to clarify a restriction.
Examples:
Covenant specifies that no activity that shall create a nuisance is allowed.
Nuisance is a subjective term, so the Board can adopt a policy of noise after 11:00 p.m. would be considered a nuisance.
OR that the board will only consider an activity a nuisance if two or more lots/units make a complaint about it.

Covenant specifies architectural approval required from the Board.
The Board can adopt a policy on architectural guidelines showing what the board would or would not approve.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By TimB4 on 06/28/2025 1:24 PM
Rules and regulations apply to common areas.
Policy Resolutions are used to clarify language, establish procedures or both.
Covenants (aka deed restrictions) identify what an owner may or may not do with their property.

Examples:

Rental limits - Covenants as it limits property use.

Pets must be on leash - Rules/Regs as it would only apply to having pets on common areas.

How assessment payments are applied when late fees are involved - a policy

Code of Conduct establishing behavior on common areas - Rules/Regs

Expecting that you are in a condominium complex - hallways would be common areas, so no notes on doors would be an valid rules/reg


Tim,
In many HOAs consisting of single family homes, the HOA board may adopt and enforce regulations that apply to private property.

In my HOA, we regulate the noise coming from the property to include music, loud engines from vehicles and home generators, appearance of the property, signs, decorations ect.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By DeanJ on 06/29/2025 6:56 PM

Tim,
In many HOAs consisting of single family homes, the HOA board may adopt and enforce regulations that apply to private property.

In my HOA, we regulate the noise coming from the property to include music, loud engines from vehicles and home generators, appearance of the property, signs, decorations ect.

And if they are not based in the covenants, the rules/regs might not withstand a challenge.

That said - Music, loud engines, generators can all be a clarification of nuisances.

Appearance of property would be tied to good order and repair (likely mentioned in your covenants).

decorations would be tied to approval for exterior changes.

signage can be tied to exterior changes, nuisances or your covenants might have a section that mentions signs.
BillD16 (Texas)
Posts: 971
Posted:
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Posted By SheliaH on 06/29/2025 10:12 AM
Rules and regulations can be tweaked or dropped altogether, so which ones really concern you and why? Take them to the board - you may be correct in that they rammed this through without considering what may happen if someone challenges it in court and wins.

I hear the ex-president in you expressing legitimate concerns, but as you know, these folks might be inclined to ignore you due to past history (DB lady). You also know that sometimes you have to let life do what it do. If that means these people get their behinds handed to them by a judge, so be it. It's just unfortunate that the association may have to shell out legal fees and damages because of it.

It appears you're mostly concerned about the code of conduct. You didn't say what's in it, but it's one thing to have rules that can prevent association meetings from becoming a WWE throwndown, vs. sending a letter to homeowners expressing concern about a new policy. For the latter, I'd remind people its illegal to put it in the mailbox without postage, but I don't see a problem with folding it up and attaching it to a doorknob with a rubber band. Just throw it away if you don't want to read it.

Whatever your viewpoint is, keep speaking up and focus on the challenges of enforcement, then let them chew on your opinion- or not. If they try to use "violation notices" to shut you up, let them know you'll keep talking. I'm sure you know how to disagree without getting personal, so let them prove otherwise. The first amendment is still effective (for now), even for boorish language, which can be subjective.

Thanks Shelia! I always appreciate your support!

I know I posted the proposed "CoC" here in the past, but I can't find it now. But I still have the text; I'll append it below, and if the Powers That Be judge it worthless, I hope they will feel free to remove it. I do not have many issues with the overall intent of the document, ie, let's all be nice to each other. But it's sooo easy to see this being abused, either by non-enforcement, selective enforcement, or incorrect enforcement ("I ran into Cornelius at the grocery store and he said I was fat! Fine him $100!")

Bill

SECTION XYZ - CODE OF CONDUCT

For the benefit of all residents, and in the interest of allowing residents to both express their opinions and peaceably enjoy their property and common areas, the Board of Directors has adopted this Code of Conduct as an Association rule.

This Code of Conduct provides that Association officers and directors, owners, residents, and guests must conduct themselves in a civil, non-intimidating, and non-threatening manner when dealing with the Association’s agents (including without limitation its officers, directors, committee members, manager and other management company agents, employees, contractors, independent contractor service providers, and other agents), as well as other owners, residents, and guests. No person has the right to abuse, disturb, or unreasonably annoy another, nor does any person have a duty to tolerate abuse or unreasonable annoyance or disturbance.

1. Prohibited conduct. The following conduct is expressly prohibited between or among any of the
above-described parties:
a. photographing, recording, or video-taping residents, guests, or agents of the Association
without their express consent*;
b. verbal abuse, including yelling, name-calling, or similar;
c. insults, derogatory name-calling, or demeaning comments;
d. cursing or profanity;
e. use of slurs of a nature that is racial, ethnic, religious, sexual orientation-related, or gender-related;
f. behavior that a person of ordinary sensibilities would find intimidating, aggressive or threatening;
g. hostile or unwanted touching, physical contact, or threats of physical contact;
h. sexual harassment or lewd behavior;
i. sexually suggestive language or other language that is likely to be offensive to a person of
ordinary sensibilities;
j. posting any item, including correspondence, on the doors of any other resident or anywhere in the community without express written permission from the Board, and placing any item in the area of the door(s) of any other resident or anywhere else in the community other than in a resident’s own property;
k. correspondence, whether oral, written, or electronic, that is deemed in the Board’s or manager’s sole discretion to be harassing or intimidating (the Board and/or manager may without limitation consider the tone, time, and frequency of correspondence, and whether previous reply has been given to similar correspondence, in determining whether correspondence is harassing or intimidating);
l. publicly posting in any forum (by way of example and not limitation: via internet, text, mail, paper flyer) any comment, statement or remark about an Association employee, officer, director or representative that is or may be reasonably interpreted as defamatory, threatening, harassing, or intimidating;
m. calling, texting, or otherwise corresponding with another resident or a director, manager, or other agent of the Association after being instructed not to do so;
n. asking Association or management personnel to perform personal errands;
o. creating a fire hazard of any sort anywhere in the property;
p. making loud noises or other engaging in other activity that unreasonably interferes with a resident’s peaceful enjoyment of the community or is a nuisance;
q. entering another owner’s Unit or that Unit’s Limited Common Elements without the Unit owner’s permission;
r. depositing trash, clutter, debris, or other objects on another resident’s property, on the Common Elements, or anywhere other than designated receptacles;
s. placing any items on any of the General or Limited Common Elements, except as expressly authorized by the Declaration, the Rules, or the Board of Directors;
t. obstructing free passage along sidewalks and doorways, either in person or by use of an object;
u. directly addressing contractors or persons who are performing work around the property in a way that the person finds to be intrusive, interfering, harassing, or threatening. Without limitation, owners may not direct or attempt to direct association’s contractors actions in any way. Any questions or concerns regarding the work of association service providers must be directed to management unless an owner is expressly directed to communication in an alternate manner;
v. interrupting utility service to any part of the property without prior written approval of the board or management;
w. causing damage to any common elements, other units, or the personal property of others that is located on the property;
x. displaying in any manner weapons such as knives, guns, brass knuckles, or other similar items, regardless of whether the display is intended as threatening. All such items may be transported to the owners’ unit to and from the owner’s car as reasonably necessary but at all times in a case or other enclosed carrier.
y. reporting an alleged violation of a building, health or safety code when no such violation exits or is substantiated by the code enforcement body.

2. Requests to leave. Any resident, guest, director or officer who is requested by the Board or managing agent to leave the manager’s office or an Association facility or meeting shall do so immediately.

3. Communication with the Association Manager or Board. The Board or manager may require, in their sole discretion and upon notice to a resident, that all non-emergency communication (emergency being immediate threat to persons or property) from the resident or owner be in writing and/or in a particular form (such as, without limitation, mail or email).

Further, the Association may, upon notice to a resident or owner, direct the resident or owner to discontinue all non-emergency communications, and may decline to reply to communications except as required by law. The Board may require all communications to be through the management representative or other Association agent only (may prohibit direct communication with directors or officers). For any situation involving immediate threat of physical harm to persons, 911 should be contacted.

When there are multiple owners of a property, the Board may select one of the owners as the contact person for all communications. Following notice to the owners that one has been chosen as the contact person, that contact person is the only one the that will be deemed authorized to communicate with the Association.

4. Communication from tenants. All communications related to Association matters should come from owners rather than their tenants. The Board or manager, in their sole discretion, may decline to reply to communications from tenants.

5. Association employees/contractors. Residents may not instruct, direct, or supervise the Association’s or manager’s employees, agents, or contractors unless otherwise directed to do so in writing by the Board. Residents and guests may not harass or interfere with the performance of any duties being performed by the Association’s or manager’s employees, agents, or contractors.

6. Owner Responsibility. Owners are responsible, and can be fined, for all violations committed by residents of their unit, their guests and invitees, as well as their tenant’s and their tenant’s guests and invitees.

7. Fines/enforcement action. Notwithstanding any other language to the contrary in other Rules, a fine in the amount of $100/violation shall apply to each violation of this Code of Conduct, unless the Board of Directors determines otherwise. If an Owner has been cited for a violation of this Code of Conduct in the preceding six months, the fine shall increase to $150/violation. In addition, the Association may invoke any other remedy allowed by its Covenant Enforcement and Fining Policy.

* This is not applicable to monitoring equipment installed or maintained by the Association in or around common areas or to other monitoring equipment approved with written consent of the Board.

** The board may in its discretion pass a resolution setting fines for any specific violation case-by-case, at a higher or lower amount, as it believes appropriate.


HOA Board ex-President
Austin, Texas USA

“You can’t put too much water in a nuclear reactor”
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
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Posted By TimB4 on 06/30/2025 5:45 AM
Posted By DeanJ on 06/29/2025 6:56 PM

Tim,
In many HOAs consisting of single family homes, the HOA board may adopt and enforce regulations that apply to private property.

In my HOA, we regulate the noise coming from the property to include music, loud engines from vehicles and home generators, appearance of the property, signs, decorations ect.


And if they are not based in the covenants, the rules/regs might not withstand a challenge.

That said - Music, loud engines, generators can all be a clarification of nuisances.

Appearance of property would be tied to good order and repair (likely mentioned in your covenants).

decorations would be tied to approval for exterior changes.

signage can be tied to exterior changes, nuisances or your covenants might have a section that mentions signs.

Web IA says (so it has to be correct),
“ In Ohio, courts generally uphold HOA (Homeowners Association) regulations as long as they are reasonable and consistent with state law and the community's governing documents. HOAs have the authority to create rules, but these rules must align with the Ohio Planned Community Law and Condominium Act, as well as the association's own declaration and bylaws. Courts will review HOA actions to ensure they are within the association's powers and not arbitrary or discriminatory”

SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Yes, they seem to have taken a huge mouthful of something, haven't they? I really think you don't have to worry abou a lot of this - the board will find out (eventually) that it's one thing to enforce a a rule and another to enforce it. Some of this is probably addressed elsewhere in your documents anyway. If they'd bothered to read them, they would have seen it.

This may be more flexing than anything - pass a wad of rules to give the impression you're actually addressing association issues instead of the real ones like funding reserves. Flexing mayy look and sound cool, but it rarely fixes anything. Just sit back and watch this blow up in their faces.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Posted By DeanJ on 06/30/2025 4:35 PM

Web IA says (so it has to be correct),
“ In Ohio, courts generally uphold HOA (Homeowners Association) regulations as long as they are reasonable and consistent with state law and the community's governing documents. HOAs have the authority to create rules, but these rules must align with the Ohio Planned Community Law and Condominium Act, as well as the association's own declaration and bylaws. Courts will review HOA actions to ensure they are within the association's powers and not arbitrary or discriminatory”


In my examples to you everyone was consistent with the governing documents.
JeffT2 (Iowa)
Posts: 880
Posted:
I came across an Illinois appeals court case ( a few years ago) that might be relevant.
The court ruled that if the condo declaration (CC&Rs) is silent on the issue of dogs, then the board still has the authority to create a rule that prohibits dogs — or perhaps limits the number (e.g., "no more than one dog"). In other words, the rule doesn’t need to be explicitly tied to a specific clause in the declaration — as long as the declaration doesn’t forbid the board from regulating the issue (and it doesn't conflict with the declaration).

What might make this ruling work in a board’s favor:
1. If the governing documents gave broad rulemaking authority — language like: “The board may make reasonable rules for the safety, welfare, and benefit of the community.” That kind of catch-all clause might make it easier to justify new rules even when not directly mentioned.
2. If it was a condominium property — which helps justify stricter rules, since people live in close quarters. That proximity often gives boards more latitude to restrict things that could affect neighbors (like barking dogs, allergies, noise, etc.), compared to, say, single-family homes on large lots. It's more reasonable.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,334
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Posted By JeffT2 on 07/01/2025 12:36 PM
I came across an Illinois appeals court case ( a few years ago) that might be relevant.
The court ruled that if the condo declaration (CC&Rs) is silent on the issue of dogs, then the board still has the authority to create a rule that prohibits dogs — or perhaps limits the number (e.g., "no more than one dog"). In other words, the rule doesn’t need to be explicitly tied to a specific clause in the declaration — as long as the declaration doesn’t forbid the board from regulating the issue (and it doesn't conflict with the declaration).
To reach its conclusion, first the Illinois Appeals court relied on a specific section of the Illinois Condo Act. Second, the court also cited a specific section of the Declaration that applied. Third the court considered whether the rule was reasonable.

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