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JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
The large majority of our HOA budget is dedicated to lake management (i.e. weed suppression and infrastructure care). The HOA has been doing this for 30 years without issue. One of the residents recently challenged the association's authority to do so on the grounds that this activity is not explicitly listed in the covenants. However, there is a general statement about care for common areas. The lake and lake features are certainly common features as all members have shoreline of access to the lake. I see comments that covenants and bylaws are 'outlines' and that not every item can be foreseeable and listed when covenants are originally written. On the other hand, I see comments that they should be as specific as possible.

Questions:

1. Does the 'outline' theory and general statement about care of common area provide HOA authority to do so?
2. Does statutory status of doing this for 30 years contribute to the HOA's authority to do so?
3. Could this perceived ambiguity be remedied by simply adding 'clarifying' language to the covenants via the prescribed process of updating them (i.e. 2/3 majority vote)?

One suggestion is to move the lake management offline into a 'voluntary' group. Of course the potential negative effect is losing members who elect not to pay while the current, de facto situation mandates members to pay dues.

Any comments, thought, or similar situations encountered? Appreciate any Feedback.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
I wonder what the homeowner foresees as the likely outcome if the HOA would stop maintaining the lake...? (*)

Anyway, my comments are based on my community's experience with maintaining our detention pond which is part of our storm water management system.

Likes yours, our CC&Rs do not expressly say that we must maintain the pond. The do say that the purpose of our (condo) association is to maintain the property. I don't think we have any authority to *ignore* portion of it. Also, our county will inspect the pond periodically and will fine us if we fail to maintain it adequately. Between the CC&Rs and county water management standards, I believe we have adequate authority.

Your county/other municipal entity may also have water maintenance requirements. I would be surprised if they didn't.

If you're worried about it, you could run this question past your HOA's attorney. Hopefully you won't be charged an arm and a leg for what it a fairly general question.

(* If we fail to maintain the pond, owners who live near it will complain loudly. We get overgrown cattails and other weeds, which can trap trash. The water will stop draining properly and will become stagnant as the plants die back every year. We get mosquitos (plus the diseases they carry, including West Nile virus). We get other undesirable critters that live around the pond. The area may flood if we get a heavy storm. In short, the pond becomes a safety issue and smells bad. Cleaning it up after years of neglect is expensive and awful - it involves heavy equipment that damages the common area, and dredging smells to high heaven, ask me how I know.)
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
I'd have this owner work harder on making his/her case before doing anything. First, what is the problem with the HOA caring for the lake - everyone has access to it and if it floods, becomes filled with trash (which washed up on one's property) or has other problems, everyone will be affected.

This sounds like this person wants to build something, but has been told no because the lake is common area, and now this has come up. Or he/she is upset at the cost ("the documents don't SAY the HOA is obligated to do this, so why are our assessments paying for it?")

Since most of us aren't attorneys anyway, haven't seen your documents, and it's really not a good idea to get legal advice on specific issues from the internet, it's best that you run this by your association attorney. You could also reread your Bylaws and CCRs and see if it has a list of areas defined as common area. If that list exists, I think the statement about caring for common areas by the HOA is enough (that's part of the whole point of HOAs).

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Your lake may be seen by the State/County as a storm water basin and would have to be properly maintained per EPA guidelines. The State/County would definitely see it as such if there is an outlet for the water to flow (vs. simply holding and evaporating).

Since all residents have access and use of the lake, it would be expected to be common area.

You should obtain a copy of the PLAT for your development from the county/city and see if the lake is deemed private property, common area or a mixture of both.

If the PLAT says it's common area - its the Association responsibility.
If the PLAT says it's private property - it would be the responsibility of those owners
If the PLAT says it's both - the Association should then only maintain the area that is considered common area.

If the PLAT says the lake is fully or partially private property, it will be very difficult to make changes to how things are done and I would strongly suggest consulting with legal counsel to understand the options and draw up any necessary legal documents.

Until the issue is resolved, I would recommend that the Association continues maintenance of the lake and shore line so they don't run afoul of any State or Federal storm water management regulations.

JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
Sheila - would never rely on a forum post for legal advice. However, it can be helpful to hear from those that may have experienced similar issues. Thats why I posted.

This person is disgruntled no doubt but nonetheless creating difficulty.

I agree there may be liability if maintenance is not adequate but this owner is challenging that mandatory dues can be levied for something that is not explicitly listed in the documents (and it is NOT). My feeling is that the power is implicit though because of the shared common element.
JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
Thank you for your example
JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
thanks - it is private. However state law states that navigable waterways belongs to everyone
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JohnsonJ on 01/14/2025 7:23 AM

I agree there may be liability if maintenance is not adequate but this owner is challenging that mandatory dues can be levied for something that is not explicitly listed in the documents (and it is NOT). My feeling is that the power is implicit though because of the shared common element.

Obtaining the PLAT ($10 - $20 perhaps) and a legal opinion ($300 to $600 per hour) should put the issue to rest for that individual and at minimal cost to the Association. It would also resolve the issue for future boards.
JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
Plat shows private property ownership but that is lake bottom. Lake itself is accessible to all members and surface waters are navigable by anyone with shoreline access. Legal opinions are often non-committal and can be rabbit holes. Getting a non-biased opinion can be challenging. It is also possible to get an opinion backing either side. I find precedents more helpful
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,339
Posted:
JohnsonJ,

1.
(a)
Yes, the HOA has an obligation under the covenants (for one) to care for the lake. Why? Because this is not a "general statement" here. Why? Because first, The lake is clearly shown on plats as a common area, correct? Second, the covenants say the HOA has the maintenance responsibility for common area. There is zero dispute about this, correct?

(b)
In certain covenant and contract disputes, lack of specific reference to xyz can be problematic. As well specific reference to abc can be problematic, depending on which side of a dispute one is on.

2.
What do you mean by "statutory status"? I suspect you mean that there has been a 30-year course of conduct, with acquiescence of this conduct by the owners. If an owner sues, can this matter? Yes. To have an idea of how much this might matter, more legal research by a well-qualified attorney is needed.

3.
I see nothing to indicate that the language is ambiguous. If you think otherwise, what is your evidence for the lake not being a "common area"?
JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
Thank you for the opinion!

The covenants language is very general with "common good and general maintenance" and then some very specifics listed (lake maintenance is notably absent).

"ambiguous" is probable not the right term but rather non-specific or missing specifics.

I think the dilemma with any documentation like this is weather or not to be general or hyper-specific. As you say, both have their merit.

I personally feel like this is an attempt to take authority away from the HOA based on a technicality (non explicit item in covenants). But I believe the HOA has implicit authority here also bolstered by the fact it has been done for so long.

anyway I'm looking for arguments/examples for or against!

ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,339
Posted:
JohnsonJ,

Is this HOA a corporation?

If so, does the corporation own the lake?
JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
The HOA is incorporated. It does not own the lake. Private property surrounds the lake with no public access. Property surveys extend to and meet at the centerline of the lake. The water volume is considered navigable and accessible to all property owners.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,339
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Posted By JohnsonJ on 01/14/2025 8:51 AM
The HOA is incorporated. It does not own the lake. Private property surrounds the lake with no public access. Property surveys extend to and meet at the centerline of the lake. The water volume is considered navigable and accessible to all property owners.
It sounds like all owners have something like an easement (in one form or another) onto other owners' portions of the lake.

If I were you, I would stop calling the lake "common area." "Common area" has an exact meaning in HOA-land. This lake is not "common area." As well your covenants never use the term "common area."

I know Michigan and its inland lakes pretty well. I expect the Michigan case law is extensive.

I am not convinced (with certainty) that just because the HOA has billed all owners for years for maintaining individual owners' property, the HOA has a good legal case for continuing to do so going forward.

This is an advanced topic. I do not think anyone here can give you a very good answer.

One can check the Michigan case law with the following search:

"lake" "ownership" site:https://law.justia.com/cases/michigan/

But the case law usually can only give one a bit of an idea of how the courts and the law contemplate your HOA's situation. What is in the CC&Rs, plats, Articles of Incorporation and perhaps more matters. Summarizing the covenant as you did at the outset is not going to work. An attorney would reject your summary and ask you to provide all of the aforementioned governing documents, then inform you she will get back to you in a week (if that).

Pardon my lecturing. I think you are in fact off to a good start in figuring out who has the responsibility for what here. But much more reading and study by a professional (a well-qualified attorney) is needed.
JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
thank you for the info!
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,339
Posted:
To say the least, I think the goal here should be to avoid the courts. Because a judge will push for mediation; the court process takes years; the attorney fees will be expensive.

Perhaps what is needed is preparation of a "Lake Maintenance Agreement." This would be similar to a "Road Maintenance Agreement" that many folks (who often lack a HOA) agree to to minimize disputes. All pitch in to maintain the road, possibly in some proportion to estimated usage.

An attorney would have to prepare this agreement.

If one googles on "Lake Maintenance Agreement," one will see real-life examples.

JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
There are alternatives:

i.e. Make dues for lake treatment voluntary. Petition for formation of lake board with township oversight. Special assesment district etc..

However, we are reluctant to change anything as all of these are big changes, disruptive, and give up control. Primarily one member continues to push this, however, seemingly at their own detriment (as lake quality is directly proportional to property value). The motivation is not rational but the will is there. They may be willing to litigate this. They see this as overreach. No one wants courts involved but most don't want HOA to give up control either.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
Sometimes you just need to put people on ignore. The lake is on HOA common area and the HOA is responsible for maintenance. What’s the next complaint, the HOA shouldn’t spray for flying insect control because they not on surface?
JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
Dean - you are speaking rationally.

Unfortunately we must deal with unnational people who also have an axe to grind, and too much time on their hands. We will need to select a path. Standing pat is my preference but there are implications of all paths. Litigation is one potential implication.

In some respects, litigation seems desirable as it will bring and end to the nonsense but also not
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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Posted By JohnsonJ on 01/14/2025 10:43 AM
Dean - you are speaking rationally.

Unfortunately we must deal with unnational people who also have an axe to grind, and too much time on their hands. We will need to select a path. Standing pat is my preference but there are implications of all paths. Litigation is one potential implication.

In some respects, litigation seems desirable as it will bring and end to the nonsense but also not

Well, if it's only one person, I'd leave it alone unless and until other people bring this up or this person wants to duke this out in court. Don't be afraid of getting a letter from an attorney - letters are one thing, going to court is another, winning is a third and collecting follows that (the most important part) and all that depends on how the judge views all this. You never know what will happen in court and in this case, it's quite possible the owner ran this by an attorney, didn't like the response and now thinks if she/she can come up with some gobbdygook about the documents, the board will say ok, lower assessments or spend it elsewhere. My spidey sense tells me this is about money or building something (or not) on his/her portion of land accessing the lake. Probably both.

I agree this owner likely has an ax to grind about something. J.P.Morgan said there are two reasons why a man (or woman) does something - the one he tells people and the real one. I'm wondering what the real reason is after 30 years. How long has this owner lived there - if it's been several years, during which he/she knew what the assessments were going for, why is this an issue now? If you can figure that out, that may give you a better idea on how to proceed.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
It's primarily one but they are getting the attention of one or 2 others. They are campaigning against the HOA and trying to make the case that what the HOA is doing now is not legal.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Well, like I said, let THEM prove their point - anyone can say anything, but proving it is something else again. If they want to push the issue, they can go ahead and sue. Maybe they'll win, maybe not. If they win, any money would come from the association, which gets all its funding from the homeowners - wonder if they've run any of this by the other neighbors?

And let's assume they're right - how do they suggest this be resolved? Do they want to pitch maintenance altogether so assessments decrease? Who's responsible if someone goes out to swim, fish or other stuff, gets injured or drowns and wants to sue someone? If it's the association, the question of whether the lake is common area or not will come up because if you can't show who owns it, you can't show who should be held responsible, so someone might decide "okie-doke, we'll just sue all the homeowners because they all live around that lake and should be aware of what's in it, blah, blah, blah."

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Johnson

Look up Benign Neglect.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,339
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Posted By JohnsonJ on 01/14/2025 11:29 AM
They are campaigning against the HOA and trying to make the case that what the HOA is doing now is not legal.
At present, I tend to agree that what the HOA is doing is not legal.

If I were an owner I would not be happy that one way or another, the HOA is undertaking the liability that goes along with improper maintenance.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
I think that many many HOAs do not list every single item for which it's responsible to maintain, repair &. replace. Some do so we see a frequent poster whose HOA has only roads and another who HOA has only a little park/plygoround, etc.

My high rise 200+ condo HOA on a city sq. block, however lists 189 reserves components and many, many of them are not listed in our CC&Rs (or Articles). The street Entry Kiosk with its AC unit, computer, surveillance. system, desk, & chair? Each piece of Gym equipment? The elevators?

Are any aspects of the lake listed in your HOA’s reserve study, Johnson?

ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,339
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Posted By JohnsonJ on 01/14/2025 7:55 AM

The covenants language is very general with "common good and general maintenance" and then some very specifics listed (lake maintenance is notably absent).
"Expressio unius est exclusio alterius" is one of the legal principles that would apply here, if push came to shove.

In short, whoever is saying that one reason the HOA should not be maintaining the lake is because of expressio unius est exclusio alterius is on solid ground.
DeanJ
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Posted By ElleN on 01/14/2025 3:54 PM
Posted By JohnsonJ on 01/14/2025 11:29 AM
They are campaigning against the HOA and trying to make the case that what the HOA is doing now is not legal.
At present, I tend to agree that what the HOA is doing is not legal.

If I were an owner I would not be happy that one way or another, the HOA is undertaking the liability that goes along with improper maintenance.

Liability notwithstanding, allowing a deterioration of the lake will negatively affect the property values.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By DeanJ on 01/14/2025 8:00 PM

Liability notwithstanding, allowing a deterioration of the lake will negatively affect the property values.
No covenant for HOA maintenance. No HOA maintenance.

Otherwise you are saying HOAs should maintain the front lawns of all homes in a subdivision, even when the covenants say nothing of the sort.

JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
There is no reserve study
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
So, the HOA doesn't own the lake, there's no public access to the lake (which I don't think is 100% true - you'd be surprised what people are capable of when motivated), and property surveys extend to the centerline of the lake.

Throughout all this, you still haven't said why this person (or three) is now saying the HOA isn't mandated to care for the lake because it's not mentioned in the CCRs. I don't know why you haven't answered that question - there has to be a reason this has come up and if you state what it is, you might get more useful information. If the language in the documents is the only thing this person can come up with, I don't see why you're tying yourself up into knots. How many owners are we talking about - 10 or 15 out of, say 30, would warrant closer review, One person asking questions isn't necessarily bad, because he/she might come up with something no one's thought of and should have. However, if you don't sit down with this person and dig to see what the real issue is, you might not get the information you really need to make a decision.

Someone or something has to care for the lake and it would seem to make sense to have some sort of rules regarding its use to ensure you guard against pollution, invasive species or whatever. If all the homeowners own equal portions, it makes sense to have some sort of entity to manage that. Are there other communities similar to yours in the area - if so, has anyone asked they handle maintenance? Have you checked with your secretary of state's office or whoever maintains the articles of incorporation and read them to see what they say regarding the lake?

At this point, you're probably better off doing what you really should have done at the start, and that's consult the association attorney. Maybe you should also speak to whichever agency regulates bodies of water- they can't give you legal advice, but might be able to tell you what their expectations are and from there, the community can decide if they want to adjust the documents, as has been suggested.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
Posted:
Shelia,

Thanks but frankly this is not helpful. This individual's motivation is to undermine the HOA. That is not important.

What is important is do they have solid ground to stand on? It really boils down to whether or not the HOA has IMPLICIT authority to manage the lake and lake features via GENERAL language, decades of doing so, and "statutory" ownership of lake features. We all agree that the HOA does not have EXPLICIT authority as the covenants don't specify lake maintenance. But they do say "to arrange the provision of services and facilities of common benefit and in general to maintain and
promote the desired character of the neighborhood". No doubt the lake is of common benefit. It is the central feature that the community is built around.

I was really looking for any examples or experience where IMPLICIT authority of the HOA was confirmed. Longshot maybe but that was the real question.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By JohnsonJ on 01/15/2025 7:33 AM
[The CCRs] do say "to arrange the provision of services and facilities of common benefit and in general to maintain and promote the desired character of the neighborhood".
What is the wording after this, regarding the listed specifics?

By any chance does the covenant say something like, "services and facilities shall include, but are not limited to, the following"?

Given the listed specifics, so far I am surprised that some kind of express provision for maintenance of the lake does not seem to exist. I guess it would not be the first time a developer built around a lake and figured that down the road, the parties with a legal interest would figure things out.
JohnsonJ (Michigan)
Posts: 28
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Ellen,

I do not profess that the covenants were well written or thought out. And, I do not know when, specifically the lake management was initiated. But sufficed to say, it was agreed upon at one point and has been done ever since (in excess of 30 years).

I wish there was language like you suggested above! We have suggested amending the language but it turns out that amending our covenants is not that easy. There are a list of specifics that include: plowing of snow, tree care and removal, mosquito abatement, To mow, care for, and maintain vacant and unimproved property.

ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 1,339
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JohnsonJ, plus an amendment of this nature, hitting people in the pocketbook fairly hard, would likely require a unanimous vote of all owners to pass muster in a court. (The courts have said amendments must be reasonable. Whether such an amendment here is reasonable is not a slam dunk.)

You all appear to have a game of chicken going amongst owners, the HOA and if anyone is man enough to raise this with the insurer (and they should be), the insurer. Hopefully a well-qualified HOA attorney is advising you all.
SheliaH (Indiana)
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Posted By JohnsonJ on 01/15/2025 7:33 AM
Shelia,

Thanks but frankly this is not helpful. This individual's motivation is to undermine the HOA. That is not important.

And so you've gone through the trouble of posting this because ONE person is trying to undermine the HOA? There are easier ways to do this, although they may not be effective. The owner can bring up whatever issue he/she wants, but if we're going to have a productive conversation, he/she needs to let you know why any of this is important to everyone else.

Why is it so important to undermine the HOA? If this owner doesn't like who's on the board, run for a spot or support any opponents. If the documents need to be updated or made clearer, that's fine - maybe this isn't the only area that needs clarification. If there's a policy that's needed but the association doesn't have it, go ahead and propose it. Whatever you're concerned about, speak up, but I have more respect for people who at least make an effort to do some research and show the benefit of making the change or at least making the documents clearer.

By the way, if all this is about undermining the HOA, you do realize the only way this person gets any power is if the rest of the homeowners (you and your neighbors) grant it, don't you? How many owners are there - are you saying all of you are intimidated by ONE person? He/she wants to sue over this, deal with this when you get the summons, get an attorney, and let the games begin. Until then, if you're wondering if this has happened before, this might not be the best place to determine that. There are a lot of smart people on this website (you've already heard from several), but remember, we all live in different states and most of us aren't attorneys. Legal research can take a minute so have the board discuss the matter to see what it wants to do, then tell the owner - the next move will be up to him or her.


If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By SheliaH on 01/15/2025 10:32 AM

And so you've gone through the trouble of posting this because ONE person is trying to undermine the HOA? There are easier ways to do this, although they may not be effective. The owner can bring up whatever issue he/she wants, but if we're going to have a productive conversation, he/she needs to let you know why any of this is important to everyone else.

Why is it so important to undermine the HOA? If this owner doesn't like who's on the board, run for a spot or support any opponents. If the documents need to be updated or made clearer, that's fine - maybe this isn't the only area that needs clarification. If there's a policy that's needed but the association doesn't have it, go ahead and propose it. Whatever you're concerned about, speak up, but I have more respect for people who at least make an effort to do some research and show the benefit of making the change or at least making the documents clearer.

By the way, if all this is about undermining the HOA, you do realize the only way this person gets any power is if the rest of the homeowners (you and your neighbors) grant it, don't you? How many owners are there - are you saying all of you are intimidated by ONE person? He/she wants to sue over this, deal with this when you get the summons, get an attorney, and let the games begin. Until then, if you're wondering if this has happened before, this might not be the best place to determine that. There are a lot of smart people on this website (you've already heard from several), but remember, we all live in different states and most of us aren't attorneys. Legal research can take a minute so have the board discuss the matter to see what it wants to do, then tell the owner - the next move will be up to him or her.



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SheliaH (Indiana)
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Good thing this New Year's Resolution is a work in progress!

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By SheliaH on 01/15/2025 10:41 AM
Good thing this New Year's Resolution is a work in progress!
That's the spirit.
KerryL1 (California)
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So, Johnson: is every item that your HOA needs to maintain, repair, & replace listed in your CC&Rs except the lake items? You give some examples above.

Does you HOA have no physical common area it's such as lighting, irrigations systems, roads, boat ramps, entry monument, etc., etc?

As I pointed out above, Elle, "Expressio unius est exclusio alterius" doe not apply to my HOA and many, many others which do NOT list every common area item for whch the HOA is responsible.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By KerryL1 on 01/15/2025 12:49 PM

As I pointed out above, Elle, "Expressio unius est exclusio alterius" doe not apply to my HOA and many, many others which do NOT list every common area item for whch the HOA is responsible.
You are misunderstanding the principle and applying it incorrectly. Example: the elevators.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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How about explaining the principal to me, Elle? Perhaps I''m not the only reader here who's too poorly educated to "understand" it.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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For those who may not know, Expressio unius est exclusio alterius means express reference to one matter excludes all others.

I've only seen courts apply this principle once for HOAs and that was on enforcement.

An argument was made that since the covenants specified enforcement via court of law or in equity that that the Association could not use monetary penalties (aka fines) to enforce the covenants (as the covenants did not mention monetary penalties for enforcement).

To determine if the principal might apply, one would have to read the governing documents.

To specify that the principal would apply, one would have to obtain a court ruling.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By JohnsonJ on 01/15/2025 9:12 AM

And, I do not know when, specifically the lake management was initiated. But sufficed to say, it was agreed upon at one point and has been done ever since (in excess of 30 years).


You may want to search the past minutes (board and general membership meetings) of the Association.

It will take time, but it might identify when the maintenance started and, perhaps, why.

Don't forget to look at past financials as well if the minutes are silent.
ElleN (Idaho)
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The correct legal reading and Latin translation of expressio unius est exclusio alterius is "the expression of one thing is the exclusion of another" (or "the other" not "all others"). At times this distinction can make a difference.

To see examples of when appeals and higher courts have applied expressio unius est exclusio alterius to an association declaration, one need only google using the following or similar:

"expressio unius est exclusio alterius" "condominium" site:https://law.justia.com/

"expressio unius est exclusio alterius" "homeowners' association" site:https://law.justia.com/

An example where a Michigan appeals court applied the principle to the Declaration of a homeowners' association: https://law.justia.com/cases/michigan/court-of-appeals-unpublished/2015/319087.html

One can put the word "unius" into the Davis-stirling.com search engine and see California examples of applying the principle to association declarations. The OP might wish to review this: https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/Case-Law/Dover-Village-v-Jennison . Consider how this California court's reading of a Declaration compares to a reading of his Declaration.

No doubt other examples from condo and HOA court decisions nationwide can illustrate the point as well.

The courts have applied the principle extensively over the decades (centuries?) to the interpretation of statutes and contracts in general.

It is a well-known principle. Its application makes perfect sense as one tries to glean what an author of a declaration, contract or statute was trying to do.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
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Posted By TimB4 on 01/16/2025 5:06 AM
For those who may not know, Expressio unius est exclusio alterius means express reference to one matter excludes all others.

I've only seen courts apply this principle once for HOAs and that was on enforcement.

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I don't think you can draw a general conclusion from this since we don't know what else the CC&Rs in that case did say.

There could have been relevant language in other parts of the CC&Rs that argued for that interpretation. Without similar relevant language in other CC&Rs, a different court dealing with those other CC&Rs could come to a different conclusion.

If I were drafting a legal document where I intended to apply a particular standard to one thing but not to other similar things, I would state this explicitly. I would not expect readers to guess at the intent behind the language.

At any rate, since it now sounds like the lake in the original post is not HOA common area, that's clearly different from situations that deal with enforcement on HOA property.

ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By CathyA3 on 01/16/2025 7:57 AM

If I were drafting a legal document where I intended to apply a particular standard to one thing but not to other similar things, I would state this explicitly.
You had best take care to state this a lot. Because as soon as you use it once, a court could reasonably question whether you did not mean this to apply elsewhere.

Let the lawyers do the drafting of governing documents.
JeffT2 (Iowa)
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The principle that an association has broad authority appears in a number of court decisions around the country, and appears to support the idea that your association can maintain the lake. The paragraph below is from a New Hampshire supreme court decision.

Generally, declarations and other governing documents contain "broad statements of general policy with due notice that
the board of directors is empowered to implement these policies and address day-to-day problems in the [association’s]
operation." Id. Thus, the declaration should not be so narrowly construed so as to eviscerate the association’s intended
role as the governing body of the community. Rather, a broad view of the powers delegated to the association "is justified
by the important role these communities play in maintaining property values and providing municipal-like services . . . . If
unable to act, the common property may fall into disrepair. . . ."Restatement (Third) of Property § 6.4 comment a at 90
(2000);
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By JeffT2 on 01/18/2025 12:15 PM
The principle that an association has broad authority appears in a number of court decisions around the country, and appears to support the idea that your association can maintain the lake. The paragraph below is from a New Hampshire supreme court decision. [snippage] Rather, a broad view of the powers delegated to the association "is justified
by the important role these communities play in maintaining property values and providing municipal-like services . . . . If
unable to act, the common property may fall into disrepair. . . ."Restatement (Third) of Property § 6.4 comment a at 90
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Posted By JohnsonJ on 01/14/2025 8:51 AM
The HOA is incorporated. It does not own the lake. Private property surrounds the lake with no public access. Property surveys extend to and meet at the centerline of the lake. The water volume is considered navigable and accessible to all property owners.


Why do you (JeffT2) believe the lake is "common property"?
JeffT2 (Iowa)
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Posted By ElleN on 01/18/2025 12:33 PM
Posted By JeffT2 on 01/18/2025 12:15 PM
The principle that an association has broad authority appears in a number of court decisions around the country, and appears to support the idea that your association can maintain the lake. The paragraph below is from a New Hampshire supreme court decision. [snippage] Rather, a broad view of the powers delegated to the association "is justified
by the important role these communities play in maintaining property values and providing municipal-like services . . . . If
unable to act, the common property may fall into disrepair. . . ."Restatement (Third) of Property § 6.4 comment a at 90
(2000);
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Posted By JohnsonJ on 01/14/2025 8:51 AM
The HOA is incorporated. It does not own the lake. Private property surrounds the lake with no public access. Property surveys extend to and meet at the centerline of the lake. The water volume is considered navigable and accessible to all property owners.


Why do you (JeffT2) believe the lake is "common property"?

Yes, that is the weak part of the argument. However, the principle that an association has broad authority is used in a number of other cases that do not directly concern property, such as the length of a dog leash.

I have a problem with the association going onto private property to control weeds, even if they have general broad authority.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By JeffT2 on 01/18/2025 1:03 PM

Yes, that is the weak part of the argument. However, the principle that an association has broad authority is used in a number of other cases that do not directly concern property, such as the length of a dog leash.
That sounds like a reasonable rule concerned use of common areas.

Got an example from the case law where common area is not involved?

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I have a problem with the association going onto private property to control weeds, even if they have general broad authority.
The Restatement examines the case law nationwide and summarizes what it says. The Restatement is clear that this broad authority exists only in the case of (1) common areas; or (2) where covenants restrict land use of privately owned land.

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