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CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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Today's online New York Times has an article about the increasing numbers of cancelled homeowner insurance policies: Insurers Are Deserting Homeowners as Climate Shocks Worsen. This is probably behind a paywall.

The article talks about many of the issues we've discussed here, including increasing numbers of potential buyers who are unable to obtain mortgages as a result. This may fuel the current trend of homes being sold to investors who have the funds to pay cash for residential properties. Whether these investors are willing to buy in areas that are threatened by things such as wildfires is a different question.

The article also has a map of the US where you can see non-renewal rates by county.

FWIW, the board in my community has already had some discussions of flood risk in response to a question from a homeowner who asked about insurance. We're a good 1.5 miles away from the nearby river and are uphill. But a storm that dumps many inches of rain will overwhelm our detention pond and drainage system, so the nearby buildings with finished lower levels will probably flood. Flood risks like this don't appear on FEMA's maps that show flood risks - boards have to know their communities and be aware of how things like ponds behave.

In somewhat related news, last week I saw an article that talked about a recent wave of small earthquakes along the New Madrid fault zone. For those who don't know, the strongest earthquake experienced in this country occurred along that fault, and people have been saying that we're about due for another big one. Along with flood insurance, earthquake coverage isn't included in the typical homeowner or HO6 policies and must be added.

SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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I subscribe to the Times, so I’ll have to look for this article – thanks for the tip.

Sometimes, I think all this climate change is Mother Nature’s way of saying “enough with the misuse and abuse – if you don’t start treating me correctly, I will destroy the damned planet and then where will you be? You can’t move to Mars just yet” And yet, some folks continue to poo-poo climate change, saying it’s always been like this (as if they know what really went on millions of years ago).

You’re right about boards and homeowners needing to be aware of the flood risks and other natural disaster risks, whether it’s wildfires, floods, tornados and blizzards, subzero weather, etc. We can’t stop it, but people may need to stop and consider if it’s worth having that ocean view or a house close to a lake or river. Cities also need to start taking a hard look at their water/sewer systems and how well they can deal with flooding – some updating may be necessary and it will cost money. You can try and move away from all that if you want to, but something will catch up sooner or later.

As for the insurance companies, somehow I think they'll still figure out a way to make money, just not cover anything significant. It's like Dick Gregory once said about life insurance - you're betting you're going to die. The insurance company is betting you won't - and THEY charge YOU

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
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People were warned about global warming and its likely effects 20 years ago. In the face of the current insurance crisis, the deniers abound. The issue is going to get worse, not better.

If you own property that could flood, I would sell and move now.

Flood insurance is a Federal Program that is likely to be overwhelmed over the next decade. The answer will be very steep increases and removimg higher risk insureds - just like what’s happening now in the private sector.

TerriS6 (California)
Posts: 3,284
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Global warming is a theory.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
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Posted By TerriS6 on 12/18/2024 7:08 PM
Global warming is a theory.

No, the cause of global warming is a theory. Global warming is a fact.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
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Quote:
Posted By DeanJ on 12/18/2024 7:29 PM
Posted By TerriS6 on 12/18/2024 7:08 PM
Global warming is a theory.


No, the cause of global warming is a theory. Global warming is a fact.

Tell me why do places like Southern Nevada, Western Arizona and Southern California encourage people to tear out their laws that breath in carbon dioxide
and produce oxygen so the Arizona Ranchers can grow alfalfa and Cali can grown almonds? Who controls the bathtub stopper between the Rocky Mountains, Lake
Powell and Lake Mead?? California should've embraced desalination 40 years ago, it works wonders for Israel and the Middle East.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
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Posted By LetA on 12/18/2024 8:04 PM
Posted By DeanJ on 12/18/2024 7:29 PM
Posted By TerriS6 on 12/18/2024 7:08 PM
Global warming is a theory.


No, the cause of global warming is a theory. Global warming is a fact.


Tell me why do places like Southern Nevada, Western Arizona and Southern California encourage people to tear out their laws that breath in carbon dioxide
and produce oxygen so the Arizona Ranchers can grow alfalfa and Cali can grown almonds? Who controls the bathtub stopper between the Rocky Mountains, Lake
Powell and Lake Mead?? California should've embraced desalination 40 years ago, it works wonders for Israel and the Middle East.

$$$
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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At the end of the day, it's ALWAYS money. I think of this Cree Indian proverb - "Only when the last tree is cut down, the last fish is caught, and the last river is poisoned, you will realize that you cannot eat money". Think about what's going on with the rain forests in Brazil - cutting them down to make more room for cattle ranches (because a lot of that beef is shipped to this country).

Meanwhile, here's a story on what sounds like the start of a movie on the SyFy channel - https://www.iflscience.com/ground-squirrels-filmed-hunting-and-eating-voles-a-shocking-first-for-the-species-77270 Who'd thought those little creatures with those "please pet my tails" would start to ditch nuts???

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius

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