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LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
We are a 24 units "single family" HOA condo complex in Dallas, TX. with only 6 resident/owners - rest are rentals. Majority of our units have 1 or 2 occupants (City ordinance is maximum of 5). However, one owner owns 7 of the 24 units. He was ousted from the Board last year (that he chaired solo for 12 years) by a "mutiny" - I am a member of the new 5 member BOD.

As a revenge tactic - we believe he is deliberately jamming his 7 units to max. occupancy. Our HOA pays monthly water/sewage and trash removal for all units, and our expenses are skyrocketing - due to this increase of flushing, laundry, showering and trash generation by more people than we typically have/had on property (or have budgeted for).

Can we as a BOD, charge extra monthly association dues to units/owners who have more than 2 people? We want to use an escalating scale: 3 tenants: +$15, 4 tenants: +$25, 5 tenants: +$40.

Thoughts and comments are sought and appreciated.
BrianB (California)
Posts: 2,820
Posted:
i would have to know the details of your CC&Rs and bylaws before i could give a proper answer as to what your rules allow you to do, but TYPICALLY, HOA's divide their annual budget by the number of owners/units, and all share equally the pain. However, there are plenty of exceptions that are based on USE, so your water charges may well fall into that category. If so, you can indeed charge by person/use, and not just by owner.

It really falls into what your rules say about how you do a budget, make changes, and conduct business.
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
LindaM5: I agree with previous poster, it depends on what your documents state on how the water usage is to be paid for. Realistically, though, it makes sense if most of the units have 2 occupants, and others (rentals or owners) have max. of 5, then they should by their usage pay a higher fee.

You may be able to take an all-membership percentage vote to change the CC&Rs to an amendment which would state, water usage per unit is based on number of occupants. This is a common sense approach to the problem, with those owners with rentals absorbing the HOA increase through their increased rental fees. With only 6 owners residing, and the rest renting out (which is the majority), you may not get the percentage needed to pass an amendment to address this.

LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Brian and Paul...thank you so much for your information and input.

Upon review of documents it states: Determination of Assessments: The assessments shall be determined by the Board of Directors, based upon the cash requirements necessary to povide for the payment of all estimated expenses growing out of/connected with the maintenance and operation of the Common Elements. This determination may include among other, taxes, govermental assemments,landscaping, lighting, garbage, wages, water charges, legal and accounting, management costs, expenses and liabilities incurred by the Association, and creation of a reserve fund. (Also...we do not have a reserve fund established yet - hasn't been done since HOA inception 1983 - that's why we had a "mutiny")

It states nothing about requiring an all owner vote in this category - only if making an amendment.

At last all owner annual meeting (January), I reviewed escalating expenses and most owners (all 6 residents, some that rent w/1 or 2 occupants; owner of 7 units did not attend)...feel it's not "fair" that dues were increased because one owner was maxing out his units' occupancy with higher consumption/expense. I believe I would have support (proxy) to beat this guy's 7 votes if needed.

Any further thoughts or help???
AdrianC (California)
Posts: 36
Posted:
Hi Linda,

WE have 136 units in 34 x 4plexes, and are in a similar bind.

You may be able to install single use water meters for your units, and then the problem will solve itself. I can be expensive but will probably be worth it.

Also to change your rules you need to look at state laws as well as your own CC&Rs
Lt us know how it works out.

AdrianC
JosephW (Michigan)
Posts: 882
Posted:
You're not going to be able to charge certain units more without being able to show that they actually use more, which means single metering. In other words, you can't charge more for water based on your "belief" that they are using more. I doubt if your documents allow you to charge different levels of assessments based on occupancy. More likely the assessments will be based on the square footage of the units or another number in the documents. "Fair" doesn't necessarily enter into the equation. Talk to your water authority about changing to single metering if you want everyone to pay for their actual use, otherwise, as long as they are within the occupancy limits, they can use as much water as they want. Don't try and do something to respond to them without first checking with an attorney. You'll want what ever you do to stand up in court.

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LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
All, thanks for the input. I'll check on costs (and try not to collapse in sticker shock) to convert to single meters. That's probably cost prohibitive. Budget is so full of "pink ink" it makes me want to cry.

So, do you think I could do an all owner vote for an ammendment, because this issue is not "specifically" addressed or covered? If I acquire adequate "yeas" to proceed - do we need an attorney, or how do we officially change our documents?

Wish I had the experience and knowledge that ya'll had...but thanks for tolerating and assisting the HOA village idiot.

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HaroldS (Arizona)
Posts: 906
Posted:
Since your documents now require you to provide water, to change to individual meters would require an amendment change. Read your documents about changing your amendments. Usually it requires 2/3 of all owners to approve a change, which in your case would require 16 votes to pass. That would take care of only the water problem. You mentioned other expenses were higher too. However, changing your method of assessment based on occupancy would also need to be approved by your required percent of owners.
Here we go again: Someone is going to count and keep track of occupants? As they come and go it would affect their percentage. OY.
Is the guy charging rent by the head? I can't see why any owner would load up his units just for revenge. Doing so would create additional wear and tear on his property too.
LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Yes, we need 2/3 (16 votes) for an amendment.

I checked with City Utilities and they will NOT do/allow single meters, we have to maintain current bulk billing. Unless we install sub-meters and read them ourselves to determine individual usuage to divide the bill.

The guy that owns 7 units is a multi millionaire - and he is pouting since the "mutiny" - he has never been challenged. He owns tons of office space and other condo's within a 15 mile radius. He is loading up his units (not sure if he charges per head) - he does get $1,000 deposit +$850 per month, and very few tenants get that returned (because of wear n tear). They leave, and he brings in his "crew" to clean, paint and recarpet in a matter of hours. It's a 3 ring circus.

As far as occupancy, we do require "landlords" to provide lease/tenant information, i.e. who, vehicles, pets, etc. Plus 2 of the 5 BOD members live on property, and we welcome and introduce ourselves to all new owners/tenants (and verify headcount). We're a compact complex, and for security we keep a pretty close eye on the comings and goings, and know who lives where. It's pretty simple to be aware of occupancy. Right now we are 53% 1-2 residents, and 47% 3-5 residents (we have 3 vacancies). Historically we have been +80% 1 or 2, 10% with 3, and barely 10% with 4-5. Those are the stats, and that's why utilities are increasing (water/sewer/garbage).

With these occupancy and consumption increases, we have to do something soon that is proactive and equitable. We already raised dues Jan. 1 by the max 10%, but right now operating expenses are absorbing 80% of our monthly income. We've negotiated/acquired reduced contracts for all HOA paid services (we also have a pool).

We have variable expenses (maintenance wish list) projects to do. Plus, we do not have a reserve fund, and MUST do that too. No owner will support a flat, special assessment (like $300 per unit to put in the budget kitty)>that suggestion/vote failed miserably at All Owner meeting.

If we seek and acquire 2/3 votes for an amendment change...do we need an attorney or how do we "officially" change our documents?

Thanks so much!

PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
LindaM5: Very admirable of the 'guy' who owns 7 units and other office space. Just curious. Since you have an association pool, are you able to charge a 'head charge' or pool permit per household? How do you keep track of the 'renters' (not regulars) with swimming rights?
LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Again, between resident owners (and some darn good tenants), we live in peace, and everyone (without being nosey or rude) keeps an eye out for "strangers" or trouble. All owners/tenants know me (and I know them) - most will tell me if they see anything/anyone out of place. That's a nice relationship.

Regarding the pool, we tried to launch an annual "usage fee" but that was rejected by owners. Again, because no one has cared or paid attention in the past, we did have historic trespassing and abuse issues. So BOD announced and enforces a "Fine Without Warning" system ($50 per infraction)regarding pool rules. That worked great this past summer. Each owner received a gate key (again, I know all tenants), and all pool rules are door distributed prior to pool opening, posted at the mailcenter and on pool fence. Someone (who cares) is usually at the pool, and we monitor closely for fence jumpers. I'm retired - so I'm lounging there most of the time during the season. The new pool system is working - we only had 2 violations this past year. Even tho maintenance, water and chemical expenses are drowning our budget.
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
LindaM5: Pool maintenance has to be one of the major expenses paid out of Assn. fees. But, if you have a pool, it's an amenity for which those who purchased in your community knew it would incur major funding.

Glad you have a success story with pool rules and gate key being enforced!!!

LindaM5 (Texas)
Posts: 32
Posted:
Back to my original posting dilemna regarding Occupancy Surcharge for Water/Sewer/Garbage - our BOD has been bantering and we've decided to try for an amendment. We'll seek 2/3's vote to adopt.

My final question is: Will we need an attorney..or how do we officially change our Declarations if this passes?

Thanks to all for your contributions to my cause. If my lack of HOA knowledge : ) or services can help anyone - let me know.

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