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LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
SO!!! The rental house sold to a private buyer and now on a 12 year old home they are Renovating.
Our front doors are about 12' apart give or take a few feet, more like give. They hired a flooring guy
cutting tile at their front door literally feet from my bedroom window and it is quite disturbing to my wife
and I since we both work graveyard shift. Is their any wiggle room in our covenants to declare this a nuisance
and force them to either cut their tiles in the backyard or inside the garage to baffle the noise.

The miserable farging cork sucker even had the nerve to cut tiles at 9am on a Sunday morning.
County code says no construction work on Sundays but the PM said that don't apply to homeowners
This has been ongoing for more than 8 calendar days. I've seen tile crews work, 2 days tops
not 9 and certainly not hours on end.

I do some wood working myself, I do so inside my garage and usually between 11am to 4pm
did I mention inside my garage!

9.3 Nuisances. No rubbish or debris of any kind shall be placed or permitted to
accumulate anywhere within the Property, and no odor shall be permitted to arise therefrom so as
to render the Property or any portion thereof unsanitary, unsightly, or offensive. No noise or
other nuisance shall be permitted to exist or operate upon any portion of a Lot so as to be
offensive or detrimental to any other Lot in the Property or to its occupants. Without limiting the
generality of any of the foregoing provisions, no speakers, horns, whistles, bells or other sound
devices (other thari security devices used exclusively for security purposes), noisy or smoky
vehicles, large power equipment or large power tools, unlicensed off-road vehicles or other items
which may unreasonably disturb other Owners or Residents or their Guests shall be located, used
or placed on any portion of the Property without the prior written approval of the Board. Alarm
devices used exclusively to protect the security of a Lot· and its contents shall be permitted,
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frequently occurring false alarms and are not used in an abusive manner by any occupant.
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SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
What did the workers (or who's in charge of the crew) say when you talked to him or her about this - you Did try talking to him/her first, didn't you?

You might also double check with the county about that code. The private owner isn't out there making all this racket, his/her vendor is responsible. You might be able to file a noise complaint that way.

Ask your neighbors if they're also bugged by the noise- if all of you band together and approach the guy, that may have more weight. Hopefully you and them have kept track of the start and work times, with sone time and date stamped recordings- you may need them to support your complaint.

As for the property manager, could he or she forward a letter from you and your neighbors to the owner? You could put your contact information in the letter if the owner wants to reach out and apologize and come up with a compromise. Otherwise, you may need to talk to a private attorney about your options.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
I agree with Shelia.

TALK TO THE WORKERS.

I've found that if you approach construction workers, most are more than willing to do what they can.

Keep in mind that a water supply might be the main reason they are doing it at the front.

Time in set-up, take-down and distance from actual room work is in may be the reason they are using the front vs. the back.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
I have talked to the lone worker three times. He has the deer in the headlights gaze in his eyes like he is doing nothing wrong.

There is no company markings on his truck, which on one occasion he used to park blocking a portion of my driveway.

I get the feeling the lone worker is a friend of family of the owner. As for the water, there is no spigot or bibb
on these sides of our homes, they are on the opposite side where the gas and electric panel are, besides, wet saws have
a water reservoir tray attached to the underside of the wet saw that you can fill with a bucket or pitcher.

As for the talking to, there may be a communications gap.

On a side note, AITHAH for thinking someone shouldn't be making that kind of racket early on a Sunday morning?
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 859
Posted:
When our association revised our Rules and Regulations about six years ago, we looked at Federal, State and local ordinances that we determined should be in our revision. The local city had an ordinance that limits when construction can happen.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LetA on 09/04/2024 5:59 PM
I have talked to the lone worker three times. He has the deer in the headlights gaze in his eyes like he is doing nothing wrong.

There is no company markings on his truck, which on one occasion he used to park blocking a portion of my driveway.

I get the feeling the lone worker is a friend of family of the owner. As for the water, there is no spigot or bibb
on these sides of our homes, they are on the opposite side where the gas and electric panel are, besides, wet saws have
a water reservoir tray attached to the underside of the wet saw that you can fill with a bucket or pitcher.

As for the talking to, there may be a communications gap.

On a side note, AITHAH for thinking someone shouldn't be making that kind of racket early on a Sunday morning?

First, you're not the asshole - in my community, we have a rule as to when outside work can start (I think it can't start before 7 am during weekdays, 8 or 9 am on weekends, and the workers have to wrap it up by 6 pm). Noise in the AM is annoying, whether it's construction, a yappy dog, or a lawnmower. As for the parking, the block in your driveway sounds like a one time thing, so unless this has happened multiple times, let that go.

You said the worker had a "deer in the headlights" look when you spoke to him, but did he SAY anything? If you came up to him screaming, he might have been too afraid to say anything or didn't know what to say because no one's ever complained to him directly. You can and should control the shouting if that's what happened, but there could also be a communications gap. When I had a roof put on my mother's house, I had to ask about something and the first person I spoke to said he didn't speak English very well, pointed to the supervisor and I got my question answered. No screaming necessary.

In your case, I think you do need to speak to the owner, so talk to the property manager about getting his or her contact information.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
GregoryT1
Posts: 315
Posted:
Quick question. Does your town have an online process where you can check on permits. If they are doing a lot of work is there any hint of anything other than floor and cabinets. Any piping or electrical changes needs a permit. I am looking at the angle of calling in the construction code official and have them get hit with un-permitted work. They need to be licensed. Some work homeowners and do but still need to go through permitting. Also noise rules in your town. It looks like there is. The police can be called. I know some Air BnB when you get there they have some big postings on noise and what is allowed and not and what time. They give a warning that neighbor can call the police. Meaning that this has happened already. I am just figuring out local town rules that can be used.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
To answer Sheila's question, No I did not yell.. I get the feeling that this is more an IDGAF about others attitude we see in HOA's today.

The attitude I can do whatever I want whenever I want seem prevalent in today's society.

And, NO, one does not need to pull a permit for most general home items like carpet and tile. You only need the government's permission and
pay a fee to replace your hot water tank in all municipalities in Clark County.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
We had a person who worked grave yard that demanded we not mow the grass until evenings. That went nowhere quick.
GregoryT1
Posts: 315
Posted:
I agree with everyone. Talk first and then write second. Noise complaints have to go to the owner first and then if that 9.3 is condo or municipality you have an avenue for the complaint. Did you record or video the violations? That will be good. I going through some noise issues myself. I have two should meters on my phone. They work ok. Every opportunity I have I complain. What I am going to do in long term is probably formally write them a letter. If that doesn't work I will then send certified. Then I will escalate to some type of sound remedy solution within my unit and then turn around potentially have them pay for half. In any case I am figuring out the next steps. Sorry that you are going through this.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By DeanJ on 09/05/2024 8:27 PM
We had a person who worked grave yard that demanded we not mow the grass until evenings. That went nowhere quick.

And the landscapers come by once a month with a leaf blower and trimmers. That noise is brief, in and out like the breeze.
That is totally understandable and acceptable.

Operating saws and grinders literally beneath ones bedroom window for hours on end, totally different, not acceptable or understanding.
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
9am on a sunday is totally fine to make noise. Tile cutting is less noisy then cutting grass and it's intermittent. Perhaps buy some ear plugs or play some white noise music like water falling, nature sounds.
8am would be fine too. If some member told my hoa board 9am was too early I'd tell them it's not a HOA nusiance and to work it out with the neighbor

vis ta vie

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