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BrendanL (Arizona)
Posts: 5
Posted:
We have a community pool with a single set of doors to access it.

To enter the pool through these doors you need to have your RFID key card and hover it over the access card reader.

To leave the pool area through these doors you don’t need anything, both doors on the inside are equipped with panic bars. You push the bar and it lets you open the door without needing any kind of key card. This way no one can get accidentally stuck in the pool area.

There is no other way to enter or exit the pool area.

Our rules say the pool area is closed from 10pm to 6am. Our RFID security system has the capability to prevent people from using their cards to enter the pool based on time of day. However that capability is not currently enabled. We are considering enabling it to keep people from getting to the pool after hours.

I’ve seen this done once at a hotel and I've heard of other communities doing it, but I’m curious how common it is.

Does anyone else have a setup like this?

Are there any issues with restricting pool access like this?

Thanks for your input.
LoriM15 (Florida)
Posts: 1,009
Posted:
We do this. For the pool, we are closed from dawn to dusk so it the time has to be adjusted throughout the year in the system. It's an easy fix and if anyone is in the pool after those hours, it's easy to say they were trespassing.

We also restrict access to our ballrooms, card room and billiards room during certain hours when the clubhouse is officially closed.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
We do this too for our pool, which is I open 5am-10pm, nd until midnight on Fridays, Saturdays and the days before federal holiday.

We also can disable individual fobs if pool access is removed from an owner as a disciplinary measure.

Similarly, the gym is open 5a-midnight and individuals fobs may be disabled.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
I think it makes sense to enable this. You have pool hours, after all, and so residents should know what those are. There’s no reason for anyone to be there outside of those hours unless they’re doing some cleaning or maintenance. I doubt that would be happening between 10 pm and 6 am unless there was some sort of emergency, and even then there’s no reason for residents to be there.

I also like disabling the fobs for disciplinary measures, such as someone not being current in fees and/or they or their guests and household members are causing chao at the pool.

The only issue I’d see is if there wasn’t advance notice of regular pool hours and when it might be closed for an extended period due to repairs. That’s easy to fix – post it on the community website, send an email, text, or phone blast (or do all three if you have the time and resources). You can also post signs on the hours for swimming and maintenance at the pool itself, so there’s no reason someone could claim they didn’t know.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
!00% in agreement with the structure of electronic key access. I would look into using a magnet lock to secure the door with a push button
for the exit gate aside from the panic bars on the emergency exit. Does the emergency exit have some sort of alarm so the door
is not propped open for long periods of time?

I have long advocated for fob keys to our pool. We have a special made Blue key that you need to enter and exit the pool. In past years
people have stuck rocks in the lock mechanism or in the door jam so the gate stays open. I contacted the SNHD for guidance and they sent an inspector
who immediately red tagged both gates and shut the pool down for over one whole week Thursday through the next 11 days just to
well FAFO. That seemed to work and we had to shut the pool down a few days after just to send a message.

In this modern contentious era, the bean counters with insurance companies look at things like this to set your premiums.
Any bit of pro-activity helps.
MarshallT (New York)
Posts: 414
Posted:
I don't see any problem with restricting access after hours of operation have ended. It is quite common for associations to do this.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Ditto to Marshall.

Re: suspending amenity privileges: An HOA's boas only may do this if such suspension is permitted by the, usually, the covenants, as in ours. Privileges superiors are decided by the board in an executive session hearing to which the alleged violator is invited.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Ditto to Marshall.

Re: suspending amenity privileges: An HOA's boas only may do this if such suspension is permitted by the, usually, the covenants, as in ours. Privileges superiors are decided by the board in an executive session hearing to which the alleged violator is invited.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Ditto to Marshall.

Re: suspending amenity privileges: An HOA's boas only may do this if such suspension is permitted by the, usually, the covenants, as in ours. Privileges superiors are decided by the board in an executive session hearing to which the alleged violator is invited.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
Brendan,
It is an easy correction to make. I am a board president and I maintain our Card Access system. It can be done by the day of week and hours during the day. It takes less than 20 minutes to setup and a minute to make changes if needed.

Your pool should already have signage that states the hours and pool rules so nothing additional should be needed.
BrendanL (Arizona)
Posts: 5
Posted:
Thanks everyone for your input. Much appreciated.
TerriS6 (California)
Posts: 3,284
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LoriM15 on 07/16/2024 6:50 AM
We do this. For the pool, we are closed from dawn to dusk so it the time has to be adjusted throughout the year in the system. It's an easy fix and if anyone is in the pool after those hours, it's easy to say they were trespassing.

We also restrict access to our ballrooms, card room and billiards room during certain hours when the clubhouse is officially closed.

Ballrooms! We ARE disadvantaged.
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
home depot allows anyone to copy a FOB for $20. they aren't that secure anymore.

vis ta vie

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