KerryL1 (California)
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We have a gated public street entry to our urban center high rise at a 24/7 staffed kiosk. Then, there's a fairly steep 30-foot long concrete narrow 2-way drive ramp to/from the underground garage. At the bottom of this ramp, to the right, there are 15 Visitor Parking spaces. At the far end from the ramp—past these 15 spaces—is an elevator that takes visitors up to the street level near the kiosk.
Although there’s a sign that says to not walk on this ramp, we have no rule against it. Most visitors don't want to go to the elevator, which is out of their way if they’ve going in a certain direction. So they walk up the ramp.
At last night’s open board meeting, a long-time owner once again complained about the foot traffic he sees on this ramp from his unit and says it’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Someone is bound to fall or get hit by a car. He urged the Board, as he does every year, to make rule against walking on it.
There are several reasons why a rule is impractical, e.g., virtually all of the violators are visitors. Residents are not allowed to park in VP. So absentee Owners would have to be called to a hearing even if it’s their tenants who’ve invited the visitors. In addition, to try to enforce, our kiosk staffer would have to leave the kiosk unstaffed to chase down those they can see on the ramp. Then, those entering by car from the street would not be able to conveniently enter since that staffer controls the drive entry gate.
In addition, one of these VP spaces is enclosed for another several months as in it are materials needed for some balcony repair work. Those workers go in and out and also walk up & down this ramp.
I guess this is a legal question, but maybe someone can tell me or speculate: Would an official rule against walking on this ramp protect the HOA from a lawsuit if someone walking on it is somehow injured???
Although there’s a sign that says to not walk on this ramp, we have no rule against it. Most visitors don't want to go to the elevator, which is out of their way if they’ve going in a certain direction. So they walk up the ramp.
At last night’s open board meeting, a long-time owner once again complained about the foot traffic he sees on this ramp from his unit and says it’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Someone is bound to fall or get hit by a car. He urged the Board, as he does every year, to make rule against walking on it.
There are several reasons why a rule is impractical, e.g., virtually all of the violators are visitors. Residents are not allowed to park in VP. So absentee Owners would have to be called to a hearing even if it’s their tenants who’ve invited the visitors. In addition, to try to enforce, our kiosk staffer would have to leave the kiosk unstaffed to chase down those they can see on the ramp. Then, those entering by car from the street would not be able to conveniently enter since that staffer controls the drive entry gate.
In addition, one of these VP spaces is enclosed for another several months as in it are materials needed for some balcony repair work. Those workers go in and out and also walk up & down this ramp.
I guess this is a legal question, but maybe someone can tell me or speculate: Would an official rule against walking on this ramp protect the HOA from a lawsuit if someone walking on it is somehow injured???