Texas Open Meeting - proper notice for rule changes?

Is there a TX requirement that owners review these proposed changes prior to the open board meeting when the Board votes to propose them?

Or, perhaps seem such requirement in your own gov. Docs, possibly your Bylaws???

Bill

In many cases the BOD alone can make/modify Rules and Regulations without owner input. In some cases owner notification must be done. I have seen notifications be 30 days and allow owner input but still the BOD has the final say.

Good you did your research, billD, and absent anything in TX code or your own docs, there is no need to give owners a list of the proposed rules in advance of the open board meeting.

Now, some boards might want to allow owners who bother to attend the meeting to have a copy of the list of proposed changes so they can follow along as the directors discuss each and every one of them. And vote on each & every one of them. But that's just my personal tendency to lean towards transparency.

Also, imo, every proposed rule needs to be discussed & voted on by the Board and the meeting minutes must show this decision-making activity. This is necessary so the PM can send out a final new Rules & Reg. document to all owners.

Ah, yes, Davis-stirling.com, on this topic, cites CA statutes. It's, as JohnC notes, 28-day prior that owners can comment on proposed rules changes

It pains me to bring this up again, but I could use some advice.

So we’ve got a regular open meeting planned for sometime this coming week. Our new PM has been ‘leading’ the effort to put it together. The agenda is just trash: there are items to approve amendments to the R&Rs where we don’t have a final lawyer approved version{0} (and 99.99% will *not* have one by the time of the meeting). There are items to approve large bids where we do not actually have a bid in hand. There’s an item for a committee report that I don’t believe the committee is aware of. There’s also a vague “ratify board members” topic for the closed executive session that nobody wants to discuss.

In short, I think the meeting is going to be (at least) a big waste of time. I don’t know if I’m being an ass or not in thinking that I don’t want to vote on an amendment unless I can read it first? Etc.

Additionally, the other two Board members have exhibited bad faith in simply assembling the agenda{1}. I won’t BS you: I don’t want this meeting to happen. I’m concerned that there will be ‘shenanigans’.

I plan to bring this stuff up tomorrow, but there’s a good chance I’ll be ignored if I suggest postponing the meeting.

In short, I’m considering simply resigning now; resigning before the meeting; resigning during the meeting; telling them I simply can’t make the meeting; simply not showing up for the meeting; biting the bullet and attending the stupid meeting (and objecting loudly to any and all shady stuff); attending and then leaving halfway through; or ???

Your thoughts?

Bill

{0} we’ve got marked up proposed versions from (I think) our attorney’s legal assistant (the same person who provided that “Code of Conduct” that appeared to have been composed by copy/pasting stuff from the web).

{1} we met to discuss the agenda and drew up a list. Afterwards they slipped in an item “violations”, and it took two weeks of repeated questioning for one of them to finally admit they wanted to remove a fine without me knowing about it in advance.

I confess I was sorely tempted to "call in sick". I did not.

I did ask our PM "if I hadn't shown up, what would you have done?" and they responded "well, there'd still be two of you, that's the majority, so we'd just proceed the way we did." That's an ... interesting take on things.

(I've really tried to give them a chance, but our PM - despite her claims of years of experience - has repeatedly shown themselves to be incompetent).

Ya know what was the best part? We had an Owner's Forum near the end, and a nice lady asked if we could do something to keep kids from interfering with the lap-swimmers at the pool (we have a fairly large number of lap-swimmers). She was very sweet, and I told her that I'd talk to the Lifeguards about it, and impress upon them that they should keep an eye out for people (mostly kids who don't know better) who are disturbing the lap swimmers. And she said Thank You, and that she likes the way I do things. It probably sounds dumb, but that made my day, and probably my week.

Bill

bill, you are not being unreasonable. An agenda needs to be sent to the owners/board before the meeting in order for board members to properly prepare.

One of the great moves that has occurred here for our board meetings is that only items on the agenda can be discussed at the meeting. a week before the meeting, the property manager sends out the proposed agenda . she requests any desired additional items that a board member wants added to the agenda needs to be in by Friday afternoon. Monday the final agenda goes out. Wednesday the meeting occurs. anytime someone tries to add something to the agenda, the current president shuts it down and says "i'm sorry, that item is not up for consideration as it is not on the agenda.

This is huge progress. Previously, board members would show up to meetings and if there was an agenda made at all, they would simply submit a list of items they wanted added to that nights agenda. The other board members wouldn't object.

The first few meetings in 2023, board members who were part of the previous regime would show up and try and add things to the agenda. They were immediatly shut down. Every since then, everyone gets their requests in the Friday before the meeting.