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BillB17 (South Carolina)
Posts: 92
Posted:
I looked at other discussion topics on this issue and find most saying that a Board Member can campaign for whomever they please or against whomever they please. I did some research on the subject of an HOA Board Member campaigning against a candidate for our upcoming election since we have that situation here in single family HOA in SC.

Below are what I have found with the source for the information. These seem to contradict what others have said in posts on the subject and I tend to agree with them.

From Associa (Large Community Management Company) – DON’T: Endorse any specific candidate.
Board members must always remain neutral—it’s their fiduciary duty. Who gets elected is up to residents, and sitting board members should never endorse one candidate or attempt to influence voters, even if they believe one candidate would be better suited for the role. That means no campaigning for a specific candidate or making negative or unproven comments about another. Some state laws even prohibit board members from getting too involved in HOA elections beyond the scope of ensuring a fair elections process.

From Microsoft Copilot (Search Engine)

Campaigning: As an HOA board member or candidate, you can campaign, but there are limits. You should avoid endorsing a specific candidate or attempting to influence voters. This means no actively campaigning for one candidate or making negative comments about another.

It can be considered a violation of fiduciary duty if a nonprofit board member campaigns against another member up for election. Let me explain further:
1. Fiduciary Responsibility:
Definition: Fiduciary responsibility refers to the obligation that prevents one party from acting in their own interest rather than in
the interest of the organization.
Nonprofit Context: In the case of nonprofit boards, members are responsible for managing the organization’s interests. They are bound
by legal and ethical obligations to protect the nonprofit from abuses of power or conflicts of interest1.
Legal and Ethical Obligations: Nonprofit board directors are legally bound by their fiduciary responsibilities. Governments require
this assurance to ensure that nonprofits and everyone involved with them do not profit from the
organization’s efforts, which would otherwise subject them to paying taxes
2. Campaigning Against a Fellow Board Member:
Breach of Fiduciary Duty: If a board member actively campaigns against another member up for election, it could be seen as a breach of
their fiduciary duty.

Looking for authoritative resources to support the case that a Board Member can campaign for whomever they please or against whomever
they please.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Bill

I call BS on ""violation of fiduciary duty"". A BOD Member is also an owner thus they still have the rights of any owner including campaigning for someone. The one area that being on the BOD that can be tricky is being sure that when you talk to people you are expressing your personal views not those of the BOD.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
Why is a large association management company an authority?
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Say, BillB, how about providing the complete citations for the Associa article? (And why is an MC an expert?) And also for the Microsoft Copilot piece? I'd like to read them in their entirety.

I'm underwhelmed by what I see so far in the "copilot" piece. Someone writes: "It can be considered a violation of fiduciary duty if a nonprofit board member campaigns against another member up for election. Let me explain further:" Who is the "me?" Another sentence also claims (in the passive voice) a breach of fiduciary duty.

Are these articles also claiming a director seeking reelection should not campaign for themself?

CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
I agree that a board member is also a homeowner who retains the rights of a homeowner.

It is also the case that the words of a board member, particularly the president, carry weight that others' words don't. This added weight can be a thumb on the scale (or an invitation to certain people to vote *against* whatever or whomever the board member supports). If you're a candidate, you need to be aware that a board member's support may not have the kind of result you envision.

This may be taking things to extremes, but if your state requires confidentiality in elections, then openly supporting someone may amount to an announcement about who will receive your vote.

Finally, board members need to be aware that the person they're supporting may not be elected, and they have to work productively with the eventual winner. This could start things off on the wrong foot, and who needs that?

In short, I think that "board members have rights!" is another example of being right and wrong at the same time. Even if I hadn't been clear in my mind about where I fall on this - ie. the board member should zip it - the optics and the pragmatism would have pushed me in the same direction.

Board members are homeowners. But being on the board changes your relationships with your neighbors, like it or not, and it limits one's ability to act freely.

CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
This reminds me of a topic that came up in board member training sessions.

The attorneys were clear about the importance of avoiding the appearance of favoritism. They also reminded us that homeowners can and will misinterpret the most innocent things - such as responding to a homeowner's comment on social media. This is one reason we were strongly encouraged to stay off of social media altogether.

Supporting a candidate is straight up favoritism. No misinterpreting is needed.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
Bill,
I am with John and Kerry and sorry Cathy I disagree with you on this.

In my large community we have had a very bad board members over the years that were disruptive and used social media as a tool to win board disagreements. They also promised they would not post while active as a member of the board. Gues what they lied and continued to post. This person also flat out lied about election results forcing the board to spend legal funds defending an election. This person was censured and chose not to run in that upcoming election. To use an analogy this person was a cancerous situation for our board and community. In my role as president, I feel it is my duty to try and avoid a cancer situation. This person is also the moderator of the communities FB page. If this person would attempt to run again, I personally would lobby against it strongly even if it cost my election.

Regarding Fiduciary Duties I feel this has no place in this discussion. Fiduciary duties are usually stated regarding finances and the duty of board members is to the HOA not any single person.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Yes, you can campaign for yourself. It would be odd if you couldn't, and nobody would expect it. That said, I didn't do much for the re-election. If homeowners didn't understand what I was about at that point, no amount of campaigning would change that.

Board members can solicit proxies and vote for themselves multiple times, even.

(One of our homeowners once tried to insist that board members had to recuse themselves from voting in the annual election. He got a strange look from the attorney who was attending our meeting...)

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Still looking for resources to cite and am batting zero that are useful.

But I reject the notion that "favortism" plays a role. I do think it's unrelated. As directors making decisions about their HOAs, directors should be "loyal" to the corporation and no persons, friends, etc. They must try to do the best for their community when they vote (use their authority).

Campaigning for or endorsing others or opposing others' candidacy on one's own has nothing to do with a directors' decision-making ability that can be exercised SOLELY with fellow board members.

I think Mark also see things this way. Directors "do" their fiduciary obligation WHEN & WHILE they act to make decisions about their corporations WITH other directors. Doing the work of board member is a group activity. The result is the decision by votes of the board not by any individual.

Now I'm REALLY interested in the Microsoft Copilot piece..

Associa apparently says that "Some state laws even prohibit board members from getting too involved in HOA elections beyond the scope of ensuring a fair elections process." I'm really curious to see in the Associa piece which states those are. I just review CA HOA election statutes and we owners have huge amounts of freedom re: who & where and when we owners may campaign, place flyer at doors, etc. Nowhere does the large & unwhieldly state statutes exclude board members.

CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By MarkM19 on 05/14/2024 1:27 PM
Bill,
I am with John and Kerry and sorry Cathy I disagree with you on this.

In my large community we have had a very bad board members over the years that were disruptive and used social media as a tool to win board disagreements. They also promised they would not post while active as a member of the board. Gues what they lied and continued to post. This person also flat out lied about election results forcing the board to spend legal funds defending an election. This person was censured and chose not to run in that upcoming election. To use an analogy this person was a cancerous situation for our board and community. In my role as president, I feel it is my duty to try and avoid a cancer situation. This person is also the moderator of the communities FB page. If this person would attempt to run again, I personally would lobby against it strongly even if it cost my election.
... snip...

Actually, I may campaign against a person like that. Rules and principles are meant, in part, to prevent harm. I would probably view electing such a person as the greater harm, but it would depend what kind of harm and how much. Disruptive board members can do a lot of damage, that's for sure.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
Thanks, Kerry, for the acknowledgement. Cathy yes it got pretty bad when this person would lose a vote by the majority, he/she would go home and post on FB a Flash Poll and change the language to get the community to go it his/her direction. Of course, this included renters and owners that were not part of the board meeting and only knew the details that they provided. It was very bad and because it was not a HOA official site, we had to just take it.
BillB17 (South Carolina)
Posts: 92
Posted:
KerryL1 - here is the full text of the Associa article titled do's and don'ts. It is long!!

Good leadership is key to any organization, including homeowners' associations (HOAs). Comprised of volunteer residents elected by fellow neighbors, an HOA board is responsible for carrying out the rules and bylaws of the community, among many other roles. And as a member of your community’s board of directors, you know how vital board elections are to your association.

The voting process and electoral event should be taken seriously and sitting board members must ensure that procedures are properly followed, and appointments are fairly administered. The effectiveness of a board of directors can make a significant difference in community operations and the quality of life for residents. To provide a successful framework for your community’s next elections, follow these dos and don’ts.

DO: Use your governing documents to guide elections.
Essentially the constitution, law, and regulations that explain how a community operates, your HOA’s governing documents will provide information and guidelines about hosting a board election. Look to your governing documents for details regarding:

Election timing and frequency
In-person attendance requirements
Voting options
Candidate qualifications
Notification protocols
Campaigning rules
Term lengths
These documents vary by community and may be challenging to decode, so consult your association attorney for clarification if needed.

DON’T: Ignore local, state, or federal laws.
In addition to your governing documents, your local and state laws will outline the rules of operation for your HOA, including voting and election processes and requirements. For example, Florida has set term limits for board members, and California requires the use of a third-party election inspector. Research applicable election laws and restrictions and confirm compliance to avoid issues. As always, consult your association’s attorney if you have questions.

DO: Maintain transparency.
Transparency from the board is critical—especially during elections. Board members should maintain regular contact with residents regarding upcoming elections, procedures, candidates, and open positions. When community members are made aware of key dates, guided through the next steps, and informed about opportunities, they may not only be encouraged to run for a position on the board, but are also more likely to participate because they trust that the board is equipped to administer a fair and accurate voting process. Failure to inform residents about elections can result in a low voter turnout and the inability to meet a quorum, or the minimum number of votes to count towards a valid election.

DON’T: Operate without an election committee.
An election committee or nominating committee is often a mandatory committee specified in your HOA’s governing documents. These committees play an integral part in guaranteeing qualified and willing candidates are available for election to vacant positions. These committees can also help establish a plan to meet quorum and educate residents about the board’s structure and the importance of voting.

DO: Have clear nomination procedures.
Before beginning elections, make sure all community members understand nomination procedures. Some standard methods of nomination include:

Traditional nomination: An HOA member in good standing nominates another member in good standing for a position on the board. Depending on your HOA bylaws, this nomination may need a "second" to confirm.
Self-nomination: A person interested in a particular position on the HOA board puts their name forward for consideration. Most HOAs allow this option, though the candidate must meet any outlined qualifications.
Floor nominations: Floor nominations occur when members nominate another member in a meeting. Typically, no second is required.
Write-in candidates: Some bylaws allow write-in candidates. Any voting member could write any qualified member's name on the ballot even if they weren't previously listed as a candidate.
Procedures vary by community—your HOA’s governing documents will outline what type of candidates qualify, self-nomination and voting restrictions, and how to properly accept candidates.

DON’T: Endorse any specific candidate.
Board members must always remain neutral—it’s their fiduciary duty. Who gets elected is up to residents, and sitting board members should never endorse one candidate or attempt to influence voters, even if they believe one candidate would be better suited for the role. That means no campaigning for a specific candidate or making negative or unproven comments about another. Some state laws even prohibit board members from getting too involved in HOA elections beyond the scope of ensuring a fair elections process.

DO: Encourage members to have a written proxy.
Not every resident will be able to attend a meeting where an election takes place. Because of this, residents who can’t attend should complete and return a proxy form. A proxy is an authorization that allows one person to appoint another (the proxy holder) to vote on their behalf. Proxies can be rescinded if the member attends the meeting, but their proxy can be used to establish a quorum if they don’t make it.

DON’T: Forget to have a transition plan in place.
Since serving on an HOA board is voluntary and no prior experience is necessary, incoming board members may have little or no understanding of procedures—that’s why having a transition plan is key. When a transition or significant change occurs, new leaders can reference this plan and find everything they need to maintain smooth operations, continue ongoing projects, and stay on track with goals. In short, it helps new board members take over their duties with as little disruption as possible. The transition plan should summarize the previous board’s work, notify about the current state, and include the following:

Agenda logs
Major contract summaries
Current strategic plan
Examples of the operational structure
Reserve summaries
Up-to-date cash flow analysis
Recent financial statements
Annual calendar
Governing documents summary
Current and previous year’s budget
General manager reports
Overview of any pending projects
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Thanks-- no need for the whole thing, BUT it, I see, shows advice to "boards" in general, i.e., ALL of the Does & Don'ts advice for making effective BOARD policy about elections.

I do see it says "board members" shouldn't endorse., etc., but the reason is sketchy and their "some states....gives no clue as to which tstates these are. We do know that some state forbid nonprofit BOARDS as a whole from endorsing, etc. Imo, this part of the Associa piece is really weak and I'm not at all persuaded.

Off topic, but the best way for lousy candidates to lose is to have a Candidate's Night and let all present their plans, etc. More, if interested, 3 incumbents against whom I campaigned and ran, tho' off the board, lost in large part became of their inability to respond to ownrs' questions satisfactorily about a huge project they supported.

As with markM, we too have had some horrible candidates or incumbents seeking reelection. The latter actually place flyers under all condo units doors to vote against me, also an incumbent that time. Back then--maybe 9 years ago-- our rules stated no flyers of any kind at unit doors, so she even violated one of our HOA's rules. I don't even remember the reason(s) she opposed me. I replied with my own flyer, and pointed our a stupid financial error she made, that I placed it in a stack in our mailrooms for owners to pick up.

So....I campaigned against her and for me.

Can you say what does or doesn't concern you about a director endorsing candidates for the Board, BillB?
BillB17 (South Carolina)
Posts: 92
Posted:
KerryL1 Here is what initiated this thread
There are 5 Board members - call them A,B,C,D and E. Members A,B and C terms are expiring and are up for re-election and all have been placed in nomination for vote at our annual meeting - now call them Candidates A,B and C. One other association member has expressed interest in serving on the Board and his name is also placed in nomination - call him Candidate X.

Board member D, not up for election has issues with Candidate A and is personally and secretly speaking to association members (possibly hundreds) telling them not to vote for Candidate A, but instead vote for Candidate X. Those members may or may not take what they are being told as fact, but are not likely to think they are being deceptively informed.

Candidate A, however, is not aware that this is going on and has no opportunity to defend himself against any allegations presented by Board member D.

That said, I agree with others in this thread that Board members have the same rights as any other member of the association. However, I do believe that being members of the Board elevates their level of accountability and transparency, especially concerning elections - one of the most important roles of association members.

It may well be that situations like this that result in many resources advising that even though it may become clear to you that a particular candidate is best suited for the job, you must never endorse or speak ill about a particular candidate for election. To ensure a fair election process, you must remain a neutral HOA board. That means exhibiting no personal bias or favoritism. You must allow homeowners to form their own opinions and simply trust in their good judgment. Keep your thoughts to yourself even when asked by a member.

Thanks to everyone for their input. It has helped me understand differing viewpoints and opinions. In the end, I come down on the side that Board members should be neutral and not express any opinions on candidates for election.
TerriS6 (California)
Posts: 3,284
Posted:
Give credit to your homeowners for the ability to detect backstabbing. When board members endorse candidates, it helps owners identify what kind of director they are likely to be. The only issue is that directors must use their own money and resources.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
Bill,
If candidate A is sleepwalking through this election and is not aware that board member D is lobbying against him, he is obviously not a great candidate IMO. HOA politics is very similar to real life politics with less money spent. It is important for candidates to be able to tell their story. As Kerry has mentions a "Meet the Candidates" forum is a great place for this to happen. I also say that HOA elections are one by usually a small percentage of the voting public. I always tell my board that if they want candidate A reelected, they need to tell their circle of friends that you would like to see them remain on the board. If properly done friends tell friends and the deal gets done.

I am still not sure which board member you are in the ordeal, but I will tell you as someone who has been in and won every election, I have been in (8 Total) it takes work on the part of the candidate. It is also a popularity contest and that means having name recognition and doing things in the HOA that benefits others. I am up for reelection again in September and we will see if my luck runs out.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Unlike MarkM, I've only sought election 7 times. Like him, I've won every one. I agree with MarkM. it's unimaginable that A has heard none of the crap that's being spread about him by D. It does make it seem that A isn't in touch with his fellow owners AT ALL. AND, that he does not have ONE friend to clue him in??? Without ONE friend among owners sounds very much as if A is a loner.

Why don't YOU clue him in, BillB? That way, he'll have a chance to campaign for himself--to point out his initiatives and accomplishments WITH the Board. And to touch upon what he sees as the new goals for your HOA. He'd make flyers to pass out. You say "hundreds." How many units, BillB? If there are 100s of UNITS, the vast majority of them do not know A or D.

If A refuses to WORK to promote his candidacy, I don't feel he's very good at promoting the best interests of your HOA.

It's VERY possible that D's posts or verbal comments to many owners have the opposite effect. When another director sought reelection to our Board, & I did too, her negative remarks about me placed on flyers under every condo unit door, imo, COST her the election. She lost-- by a lot -- to 3 other candidates.

When off the Board for a year and I ran for election, three incumbents lost due to poor Candidates Night performances + 2 of them wrote candidate statements that were 6 pages long though our HOA requires a one page limit. Their arrogance & ignoring our rules also, imo, led to their defeat. Meanwhile, I had a "Coffee with Kerry" meeting in a common area lounge and a supporter asked me questions about my approach to a very contentious potential HOA project & then others asked questions too. Sure,it only drew about 20 ownrs, but was very positive & upbeat. I also made positive colorful flyers about my Board work under every condo door (OK legally by 2019 in CA). I wrote nothing negative about the 3. The 3 did not campaign at all.

As MarkM puts it: "I always tell my board that if they want candidate A reelected, they need to tell their circle of friends that you would like to see them remain on the board. If properly done friends tell friends and the deal gets done." This is how I supported 2 other candidates, who also defeated the 3 incumbents. I did have to be careful because after so many years of being highly active on our Board, I DID have some enemies so didn't want to taint the other twos' chances.

So, while it appears BillB has made up his mind, others reading this might find some useful campaign tips.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
Posted:
Kerry,
Your tips are great. Another one I might suggest is to focus on the non-owner-occupied accounts. As a board member this is usually very easy to see the billing address verses the HOA address. I did a mailer to these people back in Ca. when I was trying to defeat a corrupt board president. I tailored it to them and went into detail about how if you are not living in the community, it is more important than ever to have a board member that has the HOAs interest at heart. I added my email and phone number and got many positive responses, and I was reelected, and he was voted off the board. The look on his face when he had to do the walk of shame and leave the table when the election official read the results was priceless.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Good point, MarkM about sending campaign materials to absentee owners (about 25% for us).. I did not --though I had the list. And now in CA, we may have their email addys too.

When several of us campaigned to pass our restated CC&Rs in '22, we individual "precinct captains" sent emails to absentee owners & rec'd good responses.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Ah, the "walk of shame." When 3 bad directors were defeated for reelection in my HOA, one was so sure he'd win, he went on vacay and was absent! Upon realizing he'd lost, another meekly & silently left the table to sit with his wife in the audience.

Prior to the ann. mtg. there was a board meeting. The third loser (an attorney, yet!) was so confident that'd he'd win, his meeting materials were scattered all about in front of him. So he kind of spread out his arms to noisily gather all his stuff, which he crammed in a briefcase, dropping some on the floor, and then he stormed out of the meeting room making sure he slammed the door.

Some 5 years earlier, when the prez had campaigned nastily against me in her bid for reelection, the ann. mtg. also followed our board meeting, I placed all my materials in my briefcase so I could make a smooth dignified departure. I gave myself a 50% chance I'd lose. But she did. When it became obvious as the tabulations were read by the head insp. of elections, she quietly left the table. We all sat mute as there was a bit more biz to conduct. She soon returned with a crumpled tissue in her hand. She'd clearly been crying. I truly did feel sorry for her even though she doomed herself with her negative campaigning.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
The problem with campaigning for or against other candidates while you're a board member is that, for the most part, homeowners won't be privy to the reasons behind Board Member D's dislike of Candidate A. From the outside, it will look the same whether D has valid reasons to oppose A or if it's just personal dislike. This will be true regardless of Board Member D's stated reasons - people who stir up dirt usually wrap their dirt with high-minded justifications.

Sitting in the cheap seats, if I see someone investing this much energy into derailing someone else and I can't verify what I'm hearing, I will assume it's personal.

I will wonder if there are some sort of quid pro quo expectations between Candidate A and Board Member D.

*And I will be more likely to vote for A, not less.*

This is what I meant about the possibility of the campaigner's efforts backfiring. I don't like sh!t-stirrers and weasels, and I don't like negative campaigns. I tend to assume that people who sling dirt do so because they don't have any good ideas of their own. If I were Candidate X and totally disinterested in the current board members' "drama", I wouldn't want Board Member D doing this.

If there are legitimate campaign issues dealing with real HOA governance, then such talk should be out in the open. If the politicking is mostly underground, I assume bad faith. May not always be the case, but in the absence of real information that's where my head goes.

I also think our apparent disagreement on this topic results from talking about two different things. We've been conflating campaigning for someone based on legit issues (ie, the person is dishonest and has disclosed confidential information) with campaigning based on one's personal preferences without any deal-breaker issues. I see these as different. And while I agree that board members retain their rights as homeowners, I believe there are situations where their obligations as board members override their rights.

In general, if we're dealing with a candidate who is unfit to serve, then I think the board member can speak up (keeping in mind that defamation is a thing - so there should be verifiable facts - and keeping in mind that there will be negative consequences to this as well as positive ones). In the case where a board member simply prefers one candidate over another for personal reasons, then I think the appropriate thing is zip lip - because the negative consequences will outweigh the positive ones.

CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By CathyA3 on 05/18/2024 4:28 AM

I will wonder if there are some sort of quid pro quo expectations between Candidate A and Board Member D.

Oops. I meant "quid pro quo expectations between Candidate X and Board Member D." Candidate A has nothing to do with this other than being the target of Board Member D's whatever-it-is.

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