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GregoryT1
Posts: 315
Posted:
Hi on this forum I have heard pointers on limiting folks comments to about two minutes. That works when you have the community member meeting. I will like to know board members opinions on conversation or limiting conversation within a board meeting amongst board members. Basically you have a board meeting and there are five board members and one board member talks at length and without any real substantial information. It is just their style of communication. Just wanted to know if existing or prior board members have any tactics in dealing with folks like that. In their perspective (the long talker) they are talking perfectly fine. Should there be time limit? Our group is so small we can't really put in Robert Rules of order. I was about to take an approach that if you speak at length then I will speak that much faster. As you can see I really need proven tactics. Thanks in advance.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
I would home in on realpolitik: Could you get a majority of the board to agree to a time limit?
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Points to discuss:

* If you meet in the evenings, don't these people want to get home?

* Long-winded meetings are less effective than short, focused ones. They're also rude and disrespectful of people's time.

* If you're doing meeting agendas ahead of time, encourage people bring a written summary of the points they want to make about the items under discussion. This is useful even if you're not prone to running on and on. (In communities with open meetings where homeowners' comments are limited by time, many boards request that homeowners bring written summaries to supplement what they're going to say.)

* The board president presides at board meetings and has the authority to stop someone from running on and on. Of course they can't squelch real discussion, but any pointless yakking should be fair game. (Online meeting platforms are your friends for things this this)
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Try talking for 30 seconds, then 1 minutes up to 5 minutes. See how long that truly is. If you can not make a point in 2 minutes or less, your rambling or have no point.

I recently was requested to do a 2 minute presentation based on a script was given. It was only 3 very small paragraphs that read took less than 30 seconds. I refused to do it and quit. The person was a former 2nd grade teacher whom wrote boring facts down. Me and the others had already developed a story with each other that took about 3 minutes for all 4 people.

Point to be made should not take that long or not as long as you think.

Former HOA President
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
A time limit is fine, especially if you have lots of things on the agenda or if much of the meeting will address a major issue like next year's budget. As to how to deal with it, you could start by addressing everyone and talk about the importance of staying on topic and getting through the meeting in a timely manner.

Note there are times where everyone (including you) get long winded and nothing significant is added - for example, some people repeat things that have already been address, as if that will change the reality of what's going on (that's not always the case). Sometimes we keep talking because we were so focused on thinking about what we wanted to say we missed the part where someone did address the same issue. Or we don't respect the person speaking and just ignore him/her - that's how people miss valid points and great suggestions.

The Board cannot and should not put off making tough decisions - at some point, you have to press forward with what you have. It's ok if you still have concerns, but if they haven't been addressed to your satisfaction, you can suggest the issue be tabled until the next meeting. You might also offer to gather additional information the board can review before a decision is made - and it WILL be made at the next meeting. Vote your conscious and then do what you can to make the decision work - we all want what's best for the community and time will prove whether you were right. If you're proven right, we can change course, but if not, your opinion is still valued.

In the meantime, to ensure everyone has a chance to speak and decisions are made in a timely manner, going forward, comments will now be limited to 3 minutes per person. Members should take notes during a discussion so they can jot down what's important to them, and speak on those points only without going off about something else.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Gregory wrote: "...on this forum I have heard pointers on limiting folks comments to about two minutes. That works when you have the community member meeting."

Please note, that the most recent discussion , which included my HOA's list of Owners Conduct was for the open forum section of Board meetings, not members meetings. In many states, Board meeting must be open to owners. And in many of those states, there must be period of time when Owners may ask question, make comments etc. In addition, there should be no "conversations" during Board meetings. There should be just intro to motions, motions, discussions, debate and votes.

In my opinion based on many years of HOA Board service, the biggest key to an effective meeting is a clear agenda, known well in advance, to which the Board president makes sure the board adheres. The president also can ask the Board is it's ready to vote when s/he believe enough has been deliberated, discussed and debated. In my HOA, directors even sometimes "call the question." Which basically is saying, "Enough! Let's vote."

So, The Board also can make policies about director conduct & talk during meetings. First, in Calif.and in many other states, ONLY matters listed on the board meeting agenda, and posted xx days in advance for owners to see, may be discussed. So, no directors can just start blabbing about something.

Very brief announcements are OK.

On PM keeps a "Board Policy Log." These aren't "Rules" that need owner feedback, but various internal policies.

If a director has placed an item of business on the agenda, they must follow Board policy: "...any and all written and/or photographic materials that will or may be referred to in any fashion by a Board member, or a committee member presenting a committee report, must be included in the information supplied to management..." prior to every Board meeting so that mgmt. can place it in the directors report (aka board packet) that's distributed to directors about a week before board meetings. This way, no director can blindside other directors with a bunch of handouts AT the meeting and demand some kind of action/vote.

Here's another meeting policy at my HOA: "that Board Members be limited to five (5)minutes at any time for presentation of ideas, discussion of proposals, suggestions, comments, etc. Board Members would also have a one (1) minute time limit on responses to directors, follow-up comments, and the Board president may extend these time limits at their discretion. Board Members can be ruled out-of-order if the Board President believes that these rules are being circumvented."

There's no need to adhere to Robert's Rules. The above are only suggestions, Gregory. 5 minutes actually is too long in my experience. I think that there are probably many articles about "effective meetings" on line that aren't even about HOA Board meetings.

Carry n!

TerriS6 (California)
Posts: 3,284
Posted:
You shouldn't need a policy. The chairman is supposed to control the meeting. Maybe you need a new chairman.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Good board meeting policy agreed upon by board members can be of great help to board presidents. Having been on HOA boards with a dozen presidents, I've seen their quality vary considerably. Often no one or maybe only one directors is willing to be president, so gentle education and support are important. Makes for smoother more productive meetings, which benefit everyone.
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
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Posted By TerriS6 on 04/26/2024 5:30 PM
You shouldn't need a policy. The chairman is supposed to control the meeting. Maybe you need a new chairman.

I agree with this position. The president is to maintain a smooth and efficient meeting on behalf of the board of directors and to the courtesy of any attendees who are, in fact, sacrificing free time to engage in a business meeting.

The reverse situation to this is when people join their HOA board of directors as a hobby and thus become consumed with HOA business and focus on continually maintaining active (and expensive) projects to fill the time.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
I would just make a motion to vote on the matter, get a second and move on.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
"Move on" with what, Dean? After the motion & 2nd is when discussion & debate occur. Sometimes these discussions can become receptive. On my HOA's board of 7, 6 always attend. At present, 5 of the 6 contribute. From experience with about a dozen Board presidents, some can guide these discussions beautifully and DO say it's time to vote. Others, for various reasons, are less effective.

Good for Kelly's Board that they always have had effective presidents.

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