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JC3
Posts: 290
Posted:
When making the first contact with prospective property management companies, what questions should we ask, and what information should we have them email to us?
When we invite them to an interview, what should we ask them to bring for us, and what whould we have on hand to show them?

This is what we have so far:
Are you bonded/licensed?
Do you have fidelity bonds or insurance that will cover you in the event of any theft or dishonesty by HOA officers or employees.

Ask prospective management companies to email
a list of their services and costs
Their contract
describe their money handling procedures
Accounting procedure and software
What do you see as your duties in the HOA?

Too much? Not enough? What else?
HaroldS (Arizona)
Posts: 906
Posted:
I'm confused by this question: "Do you have fidelity bonds or insurance that will cover you in the event of any theft or dishonesty by HOA officers or employees." Sounds like you are expecting the management company to cover the insurance and bonding of your HOA officers.
One thing you should insist on is no automatic increases nor renewal of the contract, and that either party can cancel on 30 day notice for any reason. It should also make provision for the return of your records and documents. It is important to remember the management company is employed by your HOA - not the reverse. Altho if you look at the contract that the management company comes in with you would think otherwise - with everything in their favor of course. You may ask all the questions you want, but look that contract over line by line. Good luck. Harold
GeraldT4
Posts: 1,022
Posted:
JC3 - Just a few items as follows:

1) Ask for a list of the associations that each of the competing MCs currently manage
2) Advise the MCs of the meetings your Board holds and request their attendance at each.
3) If you really want to avoid unilateral Board member control require the MC seek the Association's President approval prior to any major actions taken but that approval must be given the green light by the written decision of a quorum of the Board with all Board member vote either way. Define major actions.
4) Require they are fully briefed on your governing documents and ask what laws or statutes in your state supersede, and or apply to your HOA?

PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
JC3:
- Ensure that the Mgmt. Co. DOES NOT hire the contractors/lawn, snow, but that they solicit bids for the work to be done with the BOARD deciding on the contractor
- Go have a 'look see' of communities they manage that all is neat and orderly
- Ensure the Mgmt. contract has a time stated (30-60 days) in which you or they can end contract at any time with a clear process stated
- Not "what do you see as your duties", but ask for a list of what they can provide, and then pick and choose what you want them to do. Many times their
fee is based on the actual responsibilities they are contracted for.

With the addition of ..."Do you have fidelity bonds or insurance that will cover you in the event of any theft or dishonesty by HOA officers or employees." Not sure what you are asking. It is the Assn.'s responsibility to have liability insurance on its officers to cover situations.

Once they advise of other clients in your area, seek out one of the Board members to learn of the mgmt. co's strengths/weaknesses to give you a feel for what your assn. will want from them.

As an additional piece of advice, it would be excellent for all if the mgmt. company could present an 'overview' of their responsibilities to the assn.--
how they can be a source of info to residents--and explanation of the restrictions your assn. will be enforcing according to the documents. If there are to be Rules & Regs established, have them give details.

Too many times residents don't understand that they can't do 'anything they want to do with their own space', all must be done/approved/accepted by those governing.

Roger has already posted the role Darco provides for their clients. Use the search bar. It is a good sign that your are doing some networking prior to signing a contract. Best of Luck!

JosephW (Michigan)
Posts: 882
Posted:
With respect to the fidelity bond. Unless you are additional named insured on the management companies fidelity bond, their bond only protect the owner of the company from theft by his employees, it doesn't protect you. You should have your own fidelity bond or crime insurance that covers the association from theft by anyone.

Other questions, meet the specific management team that will handle your account, manager, assistant, bookkeeper, etc. Make sure you're comfortable with them. Find out what other associations they're managing. Will adding you to the mix overload them? Are their clients satisfied with their work? What's their background and education? Are they working toward certification in the management industry? (in other words, are they working to improve themselves? Certifications doesn't necessarily make them better managers, but it usually means they're serious about their career)

How automated is the company. The less automated, the more labor-intensive and more costly - also the more upheaval if someone leaves. Are basic tasks handled so that there are fewer chances of slipping through the cracks. Do they have a web site that will handle work order submission; requests for re-sale packages; rule violation issues; architectural control submissions; complaints; etc. Can owners track progress on-line? How are reports of this activity provided to the board?

Who is going to communicate from the board to the manager? The fewer board members that directly communicate with the manager, the fewer chances for miscommunication or mixed communication. In between board meetings only one or at most two should give specific directions to the manager. Conversely, is there a supervisor between the manager and owner that you should talk to first if you are having problems?

What are the additional costs and how are increases in these costs handled? Things such as copies, postage, payment coupons, re-sale packages, etc. What does the association pay and what is billed directly to the owner? If the cost increases, how soon before it increases to you (immediate or next contract?)

Remeber that management companies base their pricing on an estimate of the TIME it is going to take to handle your account by the management team, plus a piece for office overhead and profit. The only way to impact the cost is to reduce the time spent on your account. The more you want, the less organized you are, the more it is going to cost.

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RogerB (Colorado)
Posts: 5,067
Posted:
JC3, Following is a list I posted under the thread "choosing a new management company".

08/10/2006 9:07 PM Quote Reply
Robert, As you said proposals tend to say similar things with the exception of costs. And since most RFPs do not provide sufficient details on services needed, and are in some manner ignored in bids, variations may be very difficult to normalized for cost comparisons.

I would start with an RFP and from the responses I would select the top 3 companies to interview. I would require interviewing the Agent who would be the managing Agent - not a "salesman". During a 30 minute interview I would start with the Agent giving a 5 minutes introduction to get a feeling for the person who you will have to work with. Then allow up to 15 minutes for Board members to ask questions and about 5 minutes for the Agent to ask questions. The last 5 minutes can be used to finalize any "loose ends". Ask for a copy of their proposed contract which will include the final services you desire and their costs for these.

Some questions to ask a prospective Managing Agent are:
1) How many years have you been a Managing Agent?
2) What is the average timeframe you have remained as the Agent for each of the HOAs you have managed?
3) How many HOAs do you currently manage?
4) What percent of all homeowners accounts are currently delinquent?
5) How many of times have HOAs you manage been involved in litigation for delinquent accounts?
6) Explain in detail how you inspect, document, and handle violations of restriction.
7) How many times have the HOAs you manage been involved in litigation for violation of restrictions?
8) Explain in detail your money handling procedures and your financial reports.
9) Explain my fiduciary duties as a Board member (this or a simialr question should be asked to give you some indication of their knowledge and willingness to provide guidance to the Board on important matters).

Some questions the Agent may ask are:
1) Why do you want to change your Managing Agent?
2) How long has your current Agent managed the HOA?
3) How long has your HOA employed that Management Company?
4) How many units in the HOA?
5) How often are assessments paid?
6) How often do you hold Board meetings and for how long?
7) How often do you want inspection of the HOA?
8) What common areas and amenities does the HOA have?
9) Do you comply with and enforce your controlling documents and laws?
JC3
Posts: 290
Posted:
What is an "RFP"?

I made a list of questions for the first contact, and made a call.
Then I revised the list a little, to make it easier.

My question now is this:
This company has several agents. The agent I talked to has a few years in time experience, but has dealt with only 2 hoas, one of which is a condo. Both are smaller than my hoa. He indicated that the other agents have more associations and possibly a few of our size.

Is it unethical to ask to talk about the management of our association with another of the agents in that office? How does the management co determine who gets the account? Does the call go to the agent in the office at the time, the next one in line, what?

I'd prefer having/we want someone with more experience that one condo and one hoa.

DonnaS (Tennessee)
Posts: 5,671
Posted:

JC3,
If the M.C had 200 agents, you have the right to interview or review each one's qualifications. You are paying and they will be working for your Board. Personalities are an important part of any working relationship.
We had a P.M who I considerd a "useless piece of junk". I talked with the owner of the M.C. He stated that he had already fired this guy because of 3 complaints in the same week. So there is no guarantee that you can or want to work with just anyone. Be selective in your choice. And if that one doesn't work out, contact the M.C and get another one.
PaulM (Pennsylvania)
Posts: 1,347
Posted:
JC3: Donna is correct; if you don't like the agent assigned to you, ask for a new one. It is the association's money, and the Board has the right to work with a manager who they are compatible with.

It is normal for an agent to be assigned to you and to work with that specific agent for everything. That's not to say the agent doesn't also get input from other agents in the company for a particular situation. One thing you want to ask is when one calls the agent, does the agent usually just have the call go to the answering machine and, will they try to make a call back the same day.
It's important for the agent to have same-day or next-day accessibility in a situation involving Board and residents.

I definitely would meet with the agent which may be assigned to you to get a feel for their professionalism and if they will meet the needs of your association. You are manned now with questions for them, and if they can't answer, that would be a red flag. Also, try to propose hypothetical situations for them re 'how would they advise the Board in this...' to learn of their experience and willingness to find a solutions when necessary.

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