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KathleenG4 (Massachusetts)
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I am on the board of an HOA in Massachusetts. We are a very small 24 unit condominium association with just an occasional issue with owners falling behind on monthly payments. We have never had to take an owner through the collections process but have had to assess a late fee when a payment is late. Nothing in our documents state that we CANNOT levy late charge however we are being challenged by a homeowner that we cannot assess late and collection fees agains unit owners. How do you handle late payments that don't necessarily need to be pushed through the Massachusetts Collections process??
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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You can assess a late fee but that is considered a "punitive" charge. It is done to correct a bad behavior. That means usually can not base liens or foreclosure on late fees or fines. It is for unpaid dues. Which if you not paying dues then that can be lien/ foreclosure. Late fees and interest can be negotiated from that total owed if added.

We had a policy of 6 months behind lien. A year we CONSIDER foreclosure. Having a collection policy that is known prevents some people from being late.

Former HOA President
NA1 (Massachusetts)
Posts: 190
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In Massachusetts this is regulated by 183A section 6(c). There is also probably some case law. See https://malegislature.gov/Laws/GeneralLaws/PartII/TitleI/Chapter183A/Section6, and also https://www.floodlaw.net/collecting-overdue-condominium-fees-in-massachusetts/

You can assess late fees and collection fees as long as your condo docs permit that. There is likely a clause that says you can issue fines for violations without specifying exactly what the violations are, so the board needs to pass a schedule of violations and fines. Massachusetts also has a super lien you can file if you do it properly, and as I understand it the super lien includes overdue fees and any fines, interest, costs of collection, etc.

You should ask your condo association's lawyer or MC for details, clarifications, and whatever else you need.

ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By KathleenG4 on 04/03/2024 12:06 PM
I am on the board of an HOA in Massachusetts. We are a very small 24 unit condominium association with just an occasional issue with owners falling behind on monthly payments. We have never had to take an owner through the collections process but have had to assess a late fee when a payment is late. Nothing in our documents state that we CANNOT levy late charge however we are being challenged by a homeowner that we cannot assess late and collection fees agains unit owners.
There is a great deal in your docs that says nothing about ____. This does not mean the HOA can then lawfully do ____. I expect this owner is correct.

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Posted By KathleenG4 on 04/03/2024 12:06 PM
How do you handle late payments that don't necessarily need to be pushed through the Massachusetts Collections process??

If your docs say that attorney fees for collecting owed assessments are allowed, dangle this in front of the owner and see if the owners pays up.

Answering your questions without having all the governing documents is extremely difficult. The best thing you can do is scour all your governing documents and quote here anything they say that seems relevant to this situation.
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
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Does anyone on the board take time to talk with these people who are late with their fees, to find out why it is occurring?
TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Posted By MichaelS56 on 04/03/2024 4:06 PM
Does anyone on the board take time to talk with these people who are late with their fees, to find out why it is occurring?

If they offer info, I'll certainly listen.

I do not approach any member and ask why. It could be they forgot or they are having financial issues. Most people do not like to discuss their personal financial issues and I would not want to put them or myself in the situation of asking.
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
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When I was Board President and we had two owners that had late fees, I discovered by talking to them that one had difficulty with their bank transactions, the other one had difficulty with the with the PM payment portion with their website.
DeanJ
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Does your HOA have an attorney? If not, you need to get one.

Through your attorney, establish a collection policy. Some items you may include in the collection policy that doesn’t not violate your declaration:

1. A homeowner falling more than 3 months delinquent on assessments shall have the remainder of the years assessments accelerated by the board and required payment shall be made within 30 days.

2. A homeowner more than 4 months delinquent on assessments, shall be declared in default and the HOA attorney shall proceed with foreclosure.

3. All attorney fees incurred from a delinquent account are assessed to the owner.

4. All use of common areas, including parking, shall be suspended to homeowners more than 3 months delinquent.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
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Bad idea to ever do a foreclosure until after a year minimum. It is a stop the bleeding step and final. Plus they are already in trouble with bank most likely.

It cost money in most states to file a lien. We set it at the break even point between fees and back dues owed. Which was at the 6 months point.

A collection policy is a good idea to have. It should fit your HOA and not any one else's. Your HOA is unique.

Former HOA President
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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What Dean said. Every year, we send a copy of our policy (which lists late fees, returned check fees, etc.) with the upcoming year's budget to homeowners.


If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
DeanJ
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Cool. If I live in you community and plan on selling my home I not paying you the last 6 months of so.
NA1 (Massachusetts)
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 04/04/2024 7:23 AM
Bad idea to ever do a foreclosure until after a year minimum. It is a stop the bleeding step and final. Plus they are already in trouble with bank most likely.

It cost money in most states to file a lien. We set it at the break even point between fees and back dues owed. Which was at the 6 months point.

A collection policy is a good idea to have. It should fit your HOA and not any one else's. Your HOA is unique.

The collection policy is a must.

In MA, where Kathleen appears to be located, the lien is automatic and includes fines, special assessments, and collection fees (183A section 6(c)). The only filing I know of related to it is the 6(d) certificate (183A section 6(d)) which must be issued on request and enumerates any balances. A "clean" 6(d) has zero balance and clears all association liens. A "dirty" 6(d) enumerates balances owed.

There is also a super lien that gets priority over other liens (except taxes?) and cannot be discharged in bankruptcy. I don't know much about them, but I know they are not automatic and have to be "perfected". I hear that lenders will often pay a super-lien. Associations can have multiple six-month super-liens on one property, the so-called "rolling super-lien".

We do have people who pay late occasionally, but the few people who have gone more than 60 days pay quickly once they receive a letter.

SteveM9 (Massachusetts)
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Posted By KathleenG4 on 04/03/2024 12:06 PM
we are being challenged by a homeowner that we cannot assess late and collection fees agains unit owners.


Fees from the collection process are legal. So..... we simply hand over all communication for the late fees and collections to our lawyer. He is very expensive and that cost is passed on to the homeowner. Once they see the fees, they never do it again. Doesn't cost the HOA anything, the lawyer extracts the fees from the homeowner.

Point is.... dont be late....... or you will pay dearly....
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Posted By SteveM9 on 04/12/2024 5:29 PM
Posted By KathleenG4 on 04/03/2024 12:06 PM
we are being challenged by a homeowner that we cannot assess late and collection fees agains unit owners.


Fees from the collection process are legal. So..... we simply hand over all communication for the late fees and collections to our lawyer. He is very expensive and that cost is passed on to the homeowner. Once they see the fees, they never do it again. Doesn't cost the HOA anything, the lawyer extracts the fees from the homeowner.

Point is.... dont be late....... or you will pay dearly....

I agree. if not late, do do not worry. if late, you should pay de0arly.
MarshallT (New York)
Posts: 414
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As others have said, late fees can be assessed provided that owners know about it. It has to be included in your collections policy, or somewhere in your governing documents.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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As NA1 pointed out, Section 6: Common profits and expenses; lien of the condominium statute allows for the late charges:

Section 6 (a)(ii) - near the bottom of that section, states:

The organization of unit owners may also assess any fees, attorneys' fees, charges, late charges, fines, costs of collection and enforcement, court costs, and interest charged pursuant to this chapter against the unit owner and such assessment shall constitute a lien against the unit from the time the assessment is due, and shall be enforceable as common expense assessments under this chapter.

If the statute was silent and your documents didn't allow it, the individual would have a point that the Association may be exceeding their authority to impose a late charge.

My suggestion: Tell the individual the board is imposing late charges based on their understanding of MA General Laws, Part 2, Title 1, Chapter 183A, section 6 paragraph (a)(ii).

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