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Posted By RileyS on 04/03/2024 1:31 PM
Define 'need' as in "HOA has a need for money"
The HOA is the homeowners and the Directors need to act in the best interest of the homeowners. There are no pots of gold. Some people are retired on fixed incomes (social security) and to them every dollar counts.
Ask yourself - why did the California Legislatures spend the time an energy to enact this law? Where they all just sitting around one day with nothing to do, drinking coffee and one of them jumped up and exclaimed "let's write a law limiting HOA's to a 20% increase on their monthly dues"
I think not, I think they were trying to address a real problem. But I do think that when I see someone on a forum with over 13,000 and 5,000 posts, and I read some of the way these posters respond and treat other forum members, that maybe they should step back away from the computer, take a break and get a life.
You do not need to reply to every post, especially when you have no idea what your talking about
Very little HOA spending is discretionary, except maybe in the high-end communities where owners are rolling in dough. I define "needs" as non-discretionary items plus a bit of a cushion for the unexpected. Unfortunately, most HOAs operate on the same business model as individuals who live paycheck to paycheck. An unplanned expense is a financial disaster rather than the inconvenience it is for those who can live below their means. It's one reason the working poor remain the working poor - they don't have the cushion that would allow them to get ahead.
The part in bold above is the problem with many HOAs. Spending needs don't automatically adjust themselves downward because people can't afford their homes. Major components have useful lives, after which they need to be replaced. And
neglecting maintenance actually shortens their useful lives and *increases* costs over time - it's the last thing you should do if money is tight. And things like insurance premiums rise according to claims being made, not according to what's affordable. Insurance is about the dumbest expense you can skimp on.
As I said, rising costs don't give a rat's patootie about what individuals can afford. In aggregate on a macroeconomic scale, sure. But on an individual scale, you no got the money, you no get the thing. And this has consequences.
Almost three years ago we had a
graphic demonstration of what "we can't afford this" will do to a property over time.
As to why legislators pass laws like this? Lots of magical thinking about money, lots of pandering to voters, lots of "the chickens won't come home to roost why I'm in office and current beneficiaries of the law are still around, and too bad about the suckers down the line." Straight talk about money matters, especially the social implications around them, tends to get people booted by the voters. Many would much rather have a comforting fairy tale than unpalatable hard talk that actually allows people to make sound financial choices with the resources they do have.
What we're on the road to seeing is blighted communities that are targeted by the professional investors who convert them into rental properties (after upscaling them and kicking out the remaining owners who *really* can no longer afford their homes then). If I were a professional investor, I'd be cheering on communities that cut costs below where they should be - that says "attractive pricing for a buyer" and "desperate owners needing to sell". Is that predatory? You're dang spanky it is. Don't make yourselves victims by running your properties into the ground.
Also, as an aside, this is the internet. This site provides free advice. The quality thereof will vary. It's no good complaining that you're not getting good advice because there is no implicit contract between buyer and seller here. Take all of it with a grain of salt, or take none of it. Nobody's feelings will be hurt one way or the other, and nothing will change unless someone regularly violates the terms of service and gets booted. Ad hominem attacks are frowned on, for example.