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BradS10
Posts: 34
Posted:
I live in an HOA that is covered by rcw 64.38 and managed by a non profit corporation covered under rcw 24.03a.

The articles of incorporation require vacancies filled by a special election and the term is until the next annual membership meeting.

The initial two (2) "Membership" Directors shall hold office until three (3) years from the date of 1/1/92. Thereupon a special meeting of the membership shall be held for the purpose of electing new Membership Directors to serve for a term of Two (2) years. In
the event of resignation of the Two (2) "Membership" Directors, a special meeting of the membership shall be held to elect a director to hold office until the next annual meeting.

Rcw 24.03a states the board can fill the vacancy unless the governing docs say otherwise.
http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=24.03A.535

Rcw 64.38 state the board cant take any action that requires the vote of owners but it does say they can fill vacancies for the remaining term. This is confusing since the articles of incorporation require members to vote on vacancies.

(2) The board of directors shall not act on behalf of the association to amend the articles of incorporation, to take any action that requires the vote or approval of the owners, to terminate the association, to elect members of the board of directors, or to determine the qualifications, powers, and duties, or terms of office of members of the board of directors; but the board of directors may fill vacancies in its membership of the unexpired portion of any term.

http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=64.38.025

Based on this information can the board fill a vacancy without the vote of the members.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
You don't say how old your community is, but if it's been several years since the developer turned it over to the homeowners, there should have been regular elections since then. If someone or several people were elected and then resigned, the board could appoint others to serve out that term until the next election. If no one strong up to run, the member stays until he or she resigns, gets voted out or is recalled.

Your documents should have instructions about all this (read them again if necessary), but the bigger question is what the homeowners have been doing (or not) since they began running the community. Have people ran for a spot? Did enough people cast votes? Are elections held during annual meetings? If so have you met quorum by showing up or turning in a proxy?

If no one runs, you end up with people who stay on the board for years because no one else wants the job or don't care. Apathy is a huge problem in HOAs, so you need to be honest about what's happening in yours.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
BradS10
Posts: 34
Posted:
The bylaws state they will elect someone to fill the vacancy. The board elected someone to fill a vacancy and thinks they should be there until the original board members term expires. I disagree.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
I would say that if your bylaws do not allow appointment, they have created difficulties that most community associations avoid, for good reason. Appointment is the norm, as far as I can tell.

If your requirement for a special election is paired with high quorum requirements and the typical apathy seen in many communities, you may eventually find yourselves with too few board members to legally conduct association business. Worst case you may end up with no board, and it's off to receivership. Also see my previous comments in other threads about the problems created by forcing out appointed board members at the next annual election rather than allowing them to stay on the board until the end of the term to which they were appointed.

If I were on your board and your bylaws truly require a special election and truly force out the specially elected board member (assuming you can even get one) at the next annual election, I'd want to research your state's codes and, assuming it's allowed, amend the bylaws to allow appointment and to allow the appointed board member to fill the remainder of the vacant term they were appointed to.

I think occasionally the folks who draft these bylaws think that HOAs are the same as other non-profit corporations where boards are filled by professionals who may be compensated for their service. They are not. HOAs and condos have unique challenges arising from being governed by volunteer boards who are often unqualified for the job and who proceed to create all sorts of problems, sometimes serious ones. The laws don't need to make things harder than they already are - homeowners will mess things up just fine even with reasonable requirements in place.
GregoryT1
Posts: 315
Posted:
CathyA3 appreciate you insightful comments on the apathy and setup of boards creating a problem. You have described some really true case scenarios I have seen myself. I have to think over what you stated and how that applied to my current condo. Thanks for posting.
BradS10
Posts: 34
Posted:
I didn't word what is in the bylaws well. Here is what is in the bylaws but i would think the articles of incorporate take precedence unless rcw64.38 takes precedence over everything.

Vacancies. A vacancy in any office because of death, resignation, removal, disqualification, or otherwise, may be filled by the board of directors for the unexpired portion of the term.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Our Bylaws say:

Any director appointed by the Board shall be selected from the Voting Members of the Association and shall serve for the remainder of the term of such director.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
BradS10, does the board really have only two directors serving?
Quote:
Posted By BradS10 on 03/21/2024 4:12 AM
I live in an HOA that is covered by rcw 64.38 and managed by a non profit corporation covered under rcw 24.03a.
[snippage]
The initial two (2) "Membership" Directors shall hold office until three (3) years from the date of 1/1/92. Thereupon a special meeting of the membership shall be held for the purpose of electing new Membership Directors to serve for a term of Two (2) years. In
the event of resignation of the Two (2) "Membership" Directors, a special meeting of the membership shall be held to elect a director to hold office until the next annual meeting.
By my reading, this applies only if both directors resign simultaneously.

If only one director resigns, then the board has the right to fill the vacancy, and the appointed director serves out the term of the seat she or he is filling. No vote of the owners is required.

More importantly, I think 24.03 might require that the board have at least three directors. See https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=24.03A.505
and
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/509
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
I agree with Elle. That section you cited only applies to the two initial directors.

Is there a different section that talks about vacancies on the board in your governing docs?

If not, then the documents would be silent and corporate law would apply, allowing the board to appoint.
BradS10
Posts: 34
Posted:
I found an updated section in an amendment to the articles of incorporation

Section 5. Election of Directors. This corporation shall have an uneven number of directors, in no event less than three. The number of directors shall be determined by a majority of the vote of memberships present at any annual meeting of membership or at any special meeting of membership called for the purpose of changing the number of directors, who shall be elected by t h e membership at an annual meeting of membership. Until changed by the membership, there shal eb seven directors. One third of the total number of directors shall be elected each year for a term of three years. Each director shall serve until a successor is elected and qualified.

In my case the board filled its vacancy outside of a board meeting. If there was a decision of unanimous consent outside of a board meeting it was not documented in the meeting notes. This happened in November. There was an election in January with 3 open board seats but not that specific one. The members voted on four candidates but only three joined the board. My understanding is the board should have had four vacancies and the four people the members voted on should all be on the board.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Brad
Typically ones docs will say how long the term is for an appointed to the BOD Member. Until the next election or until the end of the term of the person they are replacing. In our case, it is until the end of the term of the person they are replacing.
BradS10
Posts: 34
Posted:
Yep I understand that. In this situation he was not properly selected by the board to fill the vacancy. Our articles of incorporation require an election. Even if rcw 64.38 supercedes the board failed to provide the members notice of the action within 60 days which is required for actions outside a meeting under rcw 24.03a.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
A little hard to follow, but it looks like the Board appointed someone to fill a vacancy. in 11/13. That new director would remain director until that term expires. It seems it did not expire in 1/24. There apparently were 3 seats up for election. The docs you cite show a maximum of 3 directors to be elected at an annual meeting. So an election of 4 directors in 1/24 would have been incorrect.

Were you, Brad, by any chance, that 4th candidate?

A separate topic is that the Board filled the Board vacancy in 11/23 in executive session, or via action without a meeting. That was in violation of your state statutes, I imagine, and of your Bylaws. It should have been done in an open meeting. And the Board did not post the minutes for owners to review. That also violates statute & your own docs, perhaps. I assume you still have not rec'd a copy of those minutes--even in draft form-- that you have requested properly (and perhaps repeatedly).

As you've noted here & elsewhere, violations of your governing docs & state a statutes by your Board seems commonplace.

Posters here & elsewhere already have shown you have some options. Some tried to offer sincere tips.

1. You already have tried to get elected to the Board, but you must try again. Hard work. 1/25 will come much sooner than you think!

2. You can gather others to seek a special meeting of the members to recall all or one or more Board members. Hard work.

3. Some of the Board's violation may be of the type where small claims court is a good option. I'm sure Terri will be happy to advise you on that option.

4. Sell.

In all honestly, Brad, I don't think continually listing your HOA's Board's questionable or illegal conduct here will do you or your community any good.

.

BradS10
Posts: 34
Posted:
I thought this was an hoa forum. No reason to be condescending. I am trying to understand if I have a right to contest the election.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Sorry, my 1st line should read 1/23.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
The 1/24 election? I don't see how you could "contest" it? And I don't know what you mean by "contest" it. Please describe.

Were you the 4th candidate in 1/24?

Please quote my "condescending" text and if I agree, I'll apologize.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Gah! Again? My 1st line way above should say 11/23.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Please see my citation of statute requirements for Board to enter executive session on the thread about your Email to wife subject.
ShannonS7 (Virginia)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Brad,
It sounds like you're disappointed with the director they chose to fill a vacancy. Your OP was referencing how your board was originally formed - ie, directors were elected, and a mechanism was put in place to replace those directors should they both resign or be unable to fulfill their responsibilities. That doesn't govern how ongoing vacancies will be filled now that you're no longer in the "control" period of your association.

Your supplementary declaration states that you shall have an uneven number of directors on your BoD, but no less than 3. You currently have 7, which can only be changed by the membership (via vote). It's odd that you're going with 7, given that the follow on states that "one third of the total number of directors shall be elected each year, for a term of 3 years." This is mathematically impossible to comply with unless you actually have 9 directors - 1/3 of 7 is 2.3333. This means that for two years you will have 3 director seats up for election, and the third year you'll actually only have 2 seats up for election, violating the requirement that one-third the total number of directors are elected that year. Just a note for you to consider.

Your other post references the portion of your bylaws that allows the BoD to appoint someone to fill the remaining term of a member who resigns, is removed, dies etc. That's pretty standard, in places where it is legal the bylaws of most associations allows for a BoD to use appointment vs a special election to fill a vacancy. Some states allow that appointee to fill the entire remaining term (up to 3 years' term in your case) and some just allow the appointee to remain until the next regular election cycle. WA state law says appointed directors may remain for any length of time unless otherwise stated in the bylaws, so in your case that would mean that the appointee remains until the original term they are filling expires unless your bylaws state otherwise.

The part that is variable is how the appointment is handled. Here in VA, if our declarations allow for it (ours do) we have the ability to conduct business via electronic means (email) without violating any prohibitions on illegal working groups, provided that any decisions made outside of a regular meeting of our BoD is ratified during the open session of the next meeting. So for example, if we have a vacancy and we choose an individual to appoint to that seat, we don't need to hold any special meeting to do so nor poll the membership on their opinions. We just take a vote to ratify their appointment at our next regular meeting. The WA Nonstock Corporation Act allows this as well: "RCW 24.03.120 The directors or incorporators may take organizational action without a meeting if the action taken is evidenced by one or more consents in the form of a record describing the action taken and executed by each director or incorporator." This means that unless your bylaws specifically prohibit such an action, your directors could consent to the appointee via email, and as long as they maintain a record (preserve the emails) of the vote taken AND ratify it at your next regular meeting, they are within the right to do so.

So do your declarations and/or bylaws allow for your BoD to act in a similar fashion (via electronic means)? If the answer is yes, as long as they ratified the appointment of the person they chose at the next regular meeting (or any special meeting) of the Board of Directors, then they're good. If you declarations or bylaws do not allow for your BoD to conduct business via electronic means, then the answer is no, the appointment isn't valid. Without knowing what your bylaws specifically say about how an appointee is chosen and seated, I can't answer the last part for you.

It seems to me that they probably did things accordingly, but you're either not happy with who they chose, or you feel they didn't act accordingly. WA law RCW 64.90.445 with regards to "Meetings" states that: "(n) Even if an action by the board is not in compliance with this section, it is valid unless set aside by a court. A challenge to the validity of an action of the board for failure to comply with this section may not be brought more than ninety days after the minutes of the board of the meeting at which the action was taken, are approved or the record of that action is distributed to unit owners, whichever is later."
BradS10
Posts: 34
Posted:
Thank you for the detailed reply. Very good information. My community is only governed by RCW 64.38 and not 64.90 but that doesn’t diminish the rest of your points.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Shannon provides a fine summary, Brad: And Shannon cited: RCW 24.03.120 "The directors or incorporators may take organizational action without a meeting if the action taken is evidenced by one or more consents in the form of a record describing the action taken and executed by each director or incorporator."

Shannon continues: "This means that unless your bylaws specifically prohibit such an action, your directors could consent to the appointee via email, and as long as they maintain a record (preserve the emails) of the vote taken AND ratify it at your next regular meeting, they are within the right to do so."

I very poorly wrote below,* but will reword, From what you wrote, Brad, the board never has ratified their 11/23 decision at a regular meeting iso that it's memorialized in meeting minutes.

I wrote that the Board choosing a new director is executive session was illegal and still maintain that. What IS legal, despite my wording, is selecting such directors by taking action without a meeting. I did correctly add that they needed to have have put this Board decision in subsequent meeting minutes.. This, they have not done. OR has there been no one meeting since the 11/23 selection of a director?
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Excuse me: should be "no OPEN meeting..."

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