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WalterM3 (Georgia)
Posts: 442
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Hi, Okay as the title says the Board decided they would fill the 3 empty seats on our 9 person board just before the annual meeting. They have announced these 3 people as board members and one has been designated as Secretary.

Our Bylaws read:

"Nomination and Election of Directors. Election to the Board of Directors shall be by secret written ballot cast at the annual meeting, unless dispensed with by unanimous consent of those present at such meeting. At such election the Members or their proxies may cast, in respect to each vacancy, as many votes as they are entitled to exercise under the provisions of the Declaration. Directors shall be elected by a plurality of the votes cast. Cumulative voting shall not be permitted."

The board can only act to fill vacancies if someone resigns. I sent the registered agent a certified letter saying that the 3 board members they added could take no action, their appointments were null and void. That was two weeks ago; I got a notice through the management company app that the board and the attorney were discusing the situation.

SO my question is: How do I get the Board members before a judge to explain their actions?

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Then wait for a reply before doing anything.
WalterM3 (Georgia)
Posts: 442
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It has been 10 days.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By WalterM3 on 02/27/2024 1:13 PM
Hi, Okay as the title says the Board decided they would fill the 3 empty seats on our 9 person board just before the annual meeting. They have announced these 3 people as board members and one has been designated as Secretary.

Our Bylaws read:

"Nomination and Election of Directors. Election to the Board of Directors shall be by secret written ballot cast at the annual meeting, unless dispensed with by unanimous consent of those present at such meeting. At such election the Members or their proxies may cast, in respect to each vacancy, as many votes as they are entitled to exercise under the provisions of the Declaration. Directors shall be elected by a plurality of the votes cast. Cumulative voting shall not be permitted."

The board can only act to fill vacancies if someone resigns.
I disagree. You say there were three empty seats. I expect the Georgia Corporate Code says the board may fill these empty seats.

I need more details about what happened at the annual election to offer further substantive comment. How many seats were declared open for the annual election? How many people ran? What are the terms for each seat?
DeanJ
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Normally a board, at their sole discretion, may fill vacant board seats until the next annual meeting. The question is the term of tbe appointment. Some boards believe they can fil the seat for the remaining term of that seat. Most HOA attorneys will advise the nomination expires at the next annual meeting. Depending on the declaration, either could be proper.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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The remaining terms generally are in the bylaws, not in the declaration. Normally, this is not at the board's discretion. To keep staggered terms, many bylaws, including the restated 2022 ones for my HOA, advised by our HOA attorney, say the appointee fills the vacancy for the remainder of the term.

it's even possible that some state's corporation codes specify the remaining term upon filing vacancies?

So, Walter, the Board filled 3 vacancies near the time for the annual meeting. How long are their terms according to your Bylaws ?

Walter wrote: "Only the board can only act to fill vacancies if someone resigns." Please cite the exact words and the document name that supports your statement. I suspect most do not limit the board g filling vacancies for resignation. Again SC cope.Code might help with this one.

When did the annual meeting occur? How many board seats were up for election? How many candidates were there?

Our Board nd probably most boards would simply keep directors seats vacant when close to the annual meeting. To me, that's the best thing ti do--let the owner fill the seats. But, I doubt there is an requirement that your Board wait for the election and have owners votes.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Georgia nonprofit corporation statute, if it applies (typically it will if your Association is incorporated), defers to the Bylaws on how to fill vacancies.

However, if the Bylaws are silent about vacancies, it specifies that the board may fill the vacancies and, once filled, serve the remainder of the vacancies term [emphasis added]:

14-3-811. Vacancies.
(a) Unless the articles or bylaws provide otherwise, and except as provided in subsections (b) and (c) of this Code section, if a vacancy occurs on a board of directors, including a vacancy resulting from an increase in the number of directors:
(1) The members, if any, may fill the vacancy; if the vacant office was held by a director elected by a class, chapter, or other organizational unit or by region or other geographic grouping, only members of the class, chapter, unit, or grouping are entitled to vote to fill the vacancy if it is filled by the members;
(2) The board of directors may fill the vacancy; or
(3) If the directors remaining in office constitute fewer than a quorum of the board, they may fill the vacancy by the affirmative vote of a majority of all the directors remaining in office.

(b) Unless the articles or bylaws provide otherwise, if a vacant office was held by an appointed director, only the person who appointed the director may fill the vacancy.

(c) If a vacant office was held by a designated director, the vacancy shall be filled as provided in the articles or bylaws. In the absence of an applicable article or bylaw provision, the vacancy may not be filled by the board.

(d) A vacancy that will occur at a specific later date (by reason of a resignation effective at a later date under subsection (b) of Code Section 14-3-807 or otherwise) may be filled before the vacancy occurs but the new director may not take office until the vacancy occurs.

(e) If there are no directors of a corporation without members, the Attorney General or any interested person may petition the superior court to appoint at least three directors or the minimum number required by the articles or bylaws. If the interested person is not the Attorney General, such interested person shall provide notice of the petition to the Attorney General.

14-3-805. Terms of directors.
(a) The terms of the initial directors of a corporation expire at the first meeting of members or directors for the election of directors or for such other period as may be specified in the articles of incorporation or bylaws. The articles or bylaws may specify the terms of directors. In the absence of any term specified in the articles or bylaws, the term of each director other than initial directors shall be one year. Directors may be elected for successive terms.

(b) A decrease in the number of directors or term of office does not shorten an incumbent director’s term.

(c) A director elected to fill a vacancy shall be elected for the unexpired term of the director’s predecessor in office.

(d) Despite the expiration of a director’s term, the director continues to serve until the director’s successor is elected, designated, or appointed and qualifies, or until there is a decrease in the number of directors.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
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Posted By DeanJ on 02/27/2024 4:40 PM
Normally a board, at their sole discretion, may fill vacant board seats until the next annual meeting. The question is the term of tbe appointment. Some boards believe they can fil the seat for the remaining term of that seat. Most HOA attorneys will advise the nomination expires at the next annual meeting. Depending on the declaration, either could be proper.

I think this may depend on whether the terms are staggered or not - for example, three board members serving three-year terms, with one term expiring every year. One of the advantages of having staggered terms is that it helps preserve institutional memory and experience levels, because you probably won't have a board made up entirely of newbies. Tossing out a willing director at the next annual election undermines that goal.

Also, condo communities in particular can have a hard time filling board seats because the demographics of these communities are often different (more disengagement than you may see in single family home HOAs). So forcing out directors makes this issue even worse.

As others noted, the board has sole discretion on filling vacant seats. Our attorney did note that board positions should not be left vacant, so criticizing the board for doing what they're supposed to do is probably a non-starter. In this case the timing may look odd. But odd doesn't necessarily mean wrong.

CathyA3 (Ohio)
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Posted By WalterM3 on 02/27/2024 1:13 PM
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The board can only act to fill vacancies if someone resigns.
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I'll just note that if your bylaws do in fact say something like this, then if a director dies while in office or nobody runs for election, the community can't fill those positions at all. That would be corporate suicide, and bylaws that are that dysfunctional would have been amended a long time ago.
TerriS6 (California)
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Posted By WalterM3 on 02/27/2024 1:13 PM
Hi, Okay as the title says the Board decided they would fill the 3 empty seats on our 9 person board just before the annual meeting. They have announced these 3 people as board members and one has been designated as Secretary.

Our Bylaws read:

"Nomination and Election of Directors. Election to the Board of Directors shall be by secret written ballot cast at the annual meeting, unless dispensed with by unanimous consent of those present at such meeting. At such election the Members or their proxies may cast, in respect to each vacancy, as many votes as they are entitled to exercise under the provisions of the Declaration. Directors shall be elected by a plurality of the votes cast. Cumulative voting shall not be permitted."

The board can only act to fill vacancies if someone resigns. I sent the registered agent a certified letter saying that the 3 board members they added could take no action, their appointments were null and void. That was two weeks ago; I got a notice through the management company app that the board and the attorney were discusing the situation.

SO my question is: How do I get the Board members before a judge to explain their actions?


All that happened in your first sentence should ave occurred during an open board meeting, I believe.

This is how our board operated for years. They would choose a new director who agreed with their policies, then have another director near the end of his term, resign. They made no effort whatsoever to advertise for candidates, then members would think no new candidates are needed and nobody else would run.
TerriS6 (California)
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You can wait for a response but... expect the attorney to side with the board whether it acted properly or not because it's the board who pays the attorney's invoices.
DavidG45 (Delaware)
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Posted By WalterM3 on 02/27/2024 1:13 PM
Hi, Okay as the title says the Board decided they would fill the 3 empty seats on our 9 person board just before the annual meeting. They have announced these 3 people as board members and one has been designated as Secretary.

Our Bylaws read:

"Nomination and Election of Directors. Election to the Board of Directors shall be by secret written ballot cast at the annual meeting, unless dispensed with by unanimous consent of those present at such meeting. At such election the Members or their proxies may cast, in respect to each vacancy, as many votes as they are entitled to exercise under the provisions of the Declaration. Directors shall be elected by a plurality of the votes cast. Cumulative voting shall not be permitted."

The board can only act to fill vacancies if someone resigns. I sent the registered agent a certified letter saying that the 3 board members they added could take no action, their appointments were null and void. That was two weeks ago; I got a notice through the management company app that the board and the attorney were discusing the situation.

SO my question is: How do I get the Board members before a judge to explain their actions?



Walter, a few questions:

* How many board members have you had over the last several years?

* You say there are three open spots. How does those spots become open?

* Can you quote your bylaws when it states how many board members the association will have?

WalterM3 (Georgia)
Posts: 442
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I disagree. You say there were three empty seats. I expect the Georgia Corporate Code says the board may fill these empty seats.
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Georgia law does say that. Our Bylaws do not. Directors may only be created at the annual meeting by the home owners, not the board. In our CCRs or Covenants, home owners agree to abide by the Bylaws and Covenants. So the Board members, as mebers of the association cannot create new directors/board members.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
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These are not new board members. They are replacements for an open slot. No new position created. Just filling a gap with someone new.

Former HOA President
DavidG45 (Delaware)
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Posted By MelissaP1 on 02/28/2024 9:30 AM
These are not new board members. They are replacements for an open slot. No new position created. Just filling a gap with someone new.


The depends, and it's why I have asked Walter my questions. I've seen Bylaws that are not specific about Board members, saying something like "no more than nine members" as opposed to saying exactly how many. I am curious if Walter's association has been operating with six board members, and only holding elections to maintain six members, and the board just now decided to expand it to nine. Hence Walter's use of the word "created" when describing the new members.

So for now I believe none of us have enough information to know what is happening.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
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Posted By WalterM3 on 02/28/2024 9:14 AM
I disagree. You say there were three empty seats. I expect the Georgia Corporate Code says the board may fill these empty seats.
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Georgia law does say that. Our Bylaws do not. Directors may only be created at the annual meeting by the home owners, not the board. In our CCRs or Covenants, home owners agree to abide by the Bylaws and Covenants. So the Board members, as mebers of the association cannot create new directors/board members.

Does state law defer to the bylaws? If not, state law prevails.

If the bylaws do actually say that, then any vacancy would have to remain vacant until the next annual election. If there is no longer a quorum of directors, then the association would be unable to conduct business until the vacancies are filled. As I said upthread, this is nonsensical - such a deficient bylaw would have been amended long before now.
KerryL1 (California)
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I know, Walter, that you know what your Bylaws say. You've been studying them for years. I also seem to recall over the years a certain evasiveness. What exact citation, please, do your bylaws say about filling vacancies? The Board is not "creating" anything--these positions already exist .

When, Walter, do the terms expire of the 3 filled seats? Do any expire at this current annual meeting?

When is/was was the annual meeting? Were/are there any candidates?

While the Board has the "discretion" to fill vacancies, many bylaws state that the owners may fill vacancies if the Board does not.

DeanJ
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Posted By WalterM3 on 02/27/2024 1:13 PM
Hi, Okay as the title says the Board decided they would fill the 3 empty seats on our 9 person board just before the annual meeting. They have announced these 3 people as board members and one has been designated as Secretary.

Our Bylaws read:

"Nomination and Election of Directors. Election to the Board of Directors shall be by secret written ballot cast at the annual meeting, unless dispensed with by unanimous consent of those present at such meeting. At such election the Members or their proxies may cast, in respect to each vacancy, as many votes as they are entitled to exercise under the provisions of the Declaration. Directors shall be elected by a plurality of the votes cast. Cumulative voting shall not be permitted."

The board can only act to fill vacancies if someone resigns. I sent the registered agent a certified letter saying that the 3 board members they added could take no action, their appointments were null and void. That was two weeks ago; I got a notice through the management company app that the board and the attorney were discusing the situation.

SO my question is: How do I get the Board members before a judge to explain their actions?


Your position is an empty seat can only be filled if someone resigns. What if terms expire and no one will accept nomination for election?
WalterM3 (Georgia)
Posts: 442
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"Does state law defer to the bylaws? If not, state law prevails."

I thought of that.

The Covenants say:

"Membership in Association. All Owners, by virtue of their ownership of a Lot, are automatically mandatory members of the Association and shall be entitled to vote on all matters upon which members of the Association are entitled to vote, pursuant to this Declaration and in accordance with the By-Laws. Subject to the provisions of the Declaration and the By-Laws, the Owner(s) of each Lot shall be entitled to one (1) vote for such Lot."

In accordance with the Bylaws. The seated Board Members have to abide by the Covenants and Bylaws. They can't just make stuff up, or use state law because they agreed not to.

A little background. Our annual meetings are normally in March. There were six seated board members with three seats up for renewal. And three empty seats. So the six sitting board members created three news seats to fill the board up to nine, the statutory limit. And that way, even if three new Board members were seated to deulute the former clique of corrupt members, the old clique would control six seats. That is not allowed. Only the Association members can fill the empty seats at an annual meeting.

WalterM3 (Georgia)
Posts: 442
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Your position is an empty seat can only be filled if someone resigns. What if terms expire and no one will accept nomination for election?

Can we stay on subject please.
DavidG45 (Delaware)
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Posted By WalterM3 on 02/28/2024 4:11 PM
"Does state law defer to the bylaws? If not, state law prevails."

I thought of that.

The Covenants say:

"Membership in Association. All Owners, by virtue of their ownership of a Lot, are automatically mandatory members of the Association and shall be entitled to vote on all matters upon which members of the Association are entitled to vote, pursuant to this Declaration and in accordance with the By-Laws. Subject to the provisions of the Declaration and the By-Laws, the Owner(s) of each Lot shall be entitled to one (1) vote for such Lot."

In accordance with the Bylaws. The seated Board Members have to abide by the Covenants and Bylaws. They can't just make stuff up, or use state law because they agreed not to.

A little background. Our annual meetings are normally in March. There were six seated board members with three seats up for renewal. And three empty seats. So the six sitting board members created three news seats to fill the board up to nine, the statutory limit. And that way, even if three new Board members were seated to deulute the former clique of corrupt members, the old clique would control six seats. That is not allowed. Only the Association members can fill the empty seats at an annual meeting.


Nobody disputes that they can’t make stuff up. The questions relate to the wording that describes the number of board positions, along with an explanation of how these positions became vacant.
WalterM3 (Georgia)
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Walter, a few questions:

* How many board members have you had over the last several years?

* You say there are three open spots. How does those spots become open?

* Can you quote your bylaws when it states how many board members the association will have?

1. We've had 5 or 6.

2. They became open because no one ran to fill them.

3. "Section I. Composition. The affairs of the Association shall be governed by a Board of Directors consist of not Less than five (5) and no more than nine (9) members. All directors shall be Owners of Lots or spouses of such Owners; provided, however, that no Owner and his or her spouse may serve on the Board at the same time. Any Director who ceases to be an Owner or a spouse of an Owner shall not be eligible to serve as a Director."

Somehow at the 2022 annual meeting all seven of the then occupied seats somehow became empty. The ballot (I have an image of the ballot) says "vote for seven." This even though the State laws and the Bylaws say terms shall be staggered. By October 2023, there were only six occupied seats. A Special Meeting was held to remove those six members; they were very corrupt. The attoney that ran the meeting said all six had been removed by a majority vote of the home owners as required for Special meetings. I was there. I heard him say that. The Managment company would not work with the new members voted in at the Special Meeting and in a few days the attorney announced that enough proxies had been disallowed to reseat the previous six corrupt members.

Next up was the six reinstated members announcing they were seating three new board members to bring the total to nine. This even though the Bylaws require new members to be seated by the home owners/members of the association.

So -- how do I get this issue before a judge? What form should my pleading take or how does it work?
WalterM3 (Georgia)
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Nobody disputes that they can’t make stuff up. The questions relate to the wording that describes the number of board positions, along with an explanation of how these positions became vacant.

I don't know how these positions all became vacant the same year which was 2022. I have an image I made of the ballot at that meeting because I knew that wasn't supposed to happen. It says "vote for seven." There were eight candidates. It's all crooked AF. We are awash in corruption.
KerryL1 (California)
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I'm stumped, Walter: What are your reasons for refusing to cite the exact wording in your Bylaws about WHO may fill vacant seats????

What are your reasons for not sharing WHEN the terms of the three seats the Board filled will expire? Since those seats weren't occupied, but are permitted by your Bylaws, do the appointees serve a "normal term" of 2 or 3 years?

Is the annual meeting scheduled for March?
DavidG45 (Delaware)
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Posted By WalterM3 on 02/28/2024 4:31 PM
Walter, a few questions:

* How many board members have you had over the last several years?

* You say there are three open spots. How does those spots become open?

* Can you quote your bylaws when it states how many board members the association will have?

1. We've had 5 or 6.

2. They became open because no one ran to fill them.

3. "Section I. Composition. The affairs of the Association shall be governed by a Board of Directors consist of not Less than five (5) and no more than nine (9) members. All directors shall be Owners of Lots or spouses of such Owners; provided, however, that no Owner and his or her spouse may serve on the Board at the same time. Any Director who ceases to be an Owner or a spouse of an Owner shall not be eligible to serve as a Director."

Somehow at the 2022 annual meeting all seven of the then occupied seats somehow became empty. The ballot (I have an image of the ballot) says "vote for seven." This even though the State laws and the Bylaws say terms shall be staggered. By October 2023, there were only six occupied seats. A Special Meeting was held to remove those six members; they were very corrupt. The attoney that ran the meeting said all six had been removed by a majority vote of the home owners as required for Special meetings. I was there. I heard him say that. The Managment company would not work with the new members voted in at the Special Meeting and in a few days the attorney announced that enough proxies had been disallowed to reseat the previous six corrupt members.

Next up was the six reinstated members announcing they were seating three new board members to bring the total to nine. This even though the Bylaws require new members to be seated by the home owners/members of the association.

So -- how do I get this issue before a judge? What form should my pleading take or how does it work?


It sounds like a cluster, to me. I have never understood how it works when the number of directors is a range. As far as getting it in front of a judge, the answer to that is easy. Find a lawyer who specializes in HOA law.

WalterM3 (Georgia)
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When, Walter, do the terms expire of the 3 filled seats? Do any expire at this current annual meeting?

When is/was was the annual meeting? Were/are there any candidates?

While the Board has the "discretion" to fill vacancies, many bylaws state that the owners may fill vacancies if the Board does not.

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I dispute that I have ever been evasive. What good would that be when I am seeking information?

Yes, per previous annual meetings' minutes where terms were announced, " Mike for 2 years, Maria for 3 years" Three of the occupied seats must be "stood for" again this year. Our documents say the annual meeting will be in March, this board has announced the annual meeting will be in May. No exact date is set so far as I know. The Board does have the power to change the date.

Again; the Board may only act to fill vacancies on the Board due to resignation or other circumstances; we had a Board member who did pass away a few years ago. What the Board is trying to do this year is fill empty seats, not vacant seats. Then their clique will still control the Board's actions. As I posted to another person a few minutes ago, a Special Meeting was held to remove all six of the then seated members. The attorney announced - I heard him - that all six had been removed by majority vote of the home owners. Less than a week later it was announced that enough votes and proxies had been disallowed to reseat the rejected members.

Now we have these exact same six people trying to fill the empty seats. That power is granted to the home owners.

WalterM3 (Georgia)
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It sounds like a cluster, to me. I have never understood how it works when the number of directors is a range. As far as getting it in front of a judge, the answer to that is easy. Find a lawyer who specializes in HOA law.

What form would that take? That is my question.
DavidG45 (Delaware)
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Posted By WalterM3 on 02/28/2024 4:56 PM
It sounds like a cluster, to me. I have never understood how it works when the number of directors is a range. As far as getting it in front of a judge, the answer to that is easy. Find a lawyer who specializes in HOA law.

What form would that take? That is my question.


He would file suit on your behalf seeking injunctive relief. That is, to force them to follow the law and the Bylaws.
WalterM3 (Georgia)
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I'm stumped, Walter: What are your reasons for refusing to cite the exact wording in your Bylaws about WHO may fill vacant seats????

Section 2. Term of Office. Each director shall be elected to serve a term of three (3) years. The terms of the directors shall be staggered such that the tenns of no more than three (3) directors shall expire in any given year. Directors shall hold office for the term for which he or she was elected and until his or her successors are elected and qualified. or until his or her early resignation, death, or removal. No director shall serve more than two (2) consecutive three (3) year terms.

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Section 4. Vacancies. Vacancies in the Board of Directors caused by any reason other than the removal of a Director by vote of the Members shall be filled by a vote of the majority of the remaining Directors at any meeting of the Board of Directors. Each person so selected shall serve for the remainder of the vacating Director's term. Vacancies in the Board of Directors caused by removal of a Director by vote of the Members shall be filled by the Membership in accordance with Section 3 hereof.

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Section 6. Nomination and Election of Directors. Election to the Board of Directors shall be by secret written ballot cast at the annual meeting, unless dispensed with by unanimous consent of those present at such meeting. At such election the [Association] Members or their proxies may cast, in respect to each vacancy, as many votes as they are entitled to exercise under the provisions of the Declaration. Directors shall be elected by a plurality of the votes cast. Cumulative voting shall not be permitted."

I'm sorry. When I am responding to several people it is hard to keep it all straight.

Again, somehow in 2022 all seven of the then occupied seats became open at the same time.

WalterM3 (Georgia)
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He would file suit on your behalf seeking injunctive relief. That is, to force them to follow the law and the Bylaws.

Pow. That is what I couldn't figure; what form the pleading would take. I can probably figure out how to do that.
KerryL1 (California)
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What are the lengths of terms specified in your Bylaws, Walter? I must be repeating my question very poorly.

What is the wording for filling vacant seats?

I do understand what the Board is "tru ting to do" and agree, if you're correct, that their behavior is disgusting. But without citations, I can't ell if they're violating air Bylaws. I'm not one to research back over previous posts, but my memory is you've been complaining about this rotten board for several years. Correct me if I'm s wrong.

WalterM3 (Georgia)
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I'm stumped, Walter: What are your reasons for refusing to cite the exact wording in your Bylaws about WHO may fill vacant seats????

This was in my original note.

Our Bylaws read:

"Nomination and Election of Directors. Election to the Board of Directors shall be by secret written ballot cast at the annual meeting, unless dispensed with by unanimous consent of those present at such meeting. At such election the Members or their proxies may cast, in respect to each vacancy, as many votes as they are entitled to exercise under the provisions of the Declaration. Directors shall be elected by a plurality of the votes cast. Cumulative voting shall not be permitted."
WalterM3 (Georgia)
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I do understand what the Board is "tru ting to do" and agree, if you're correct, that their behavior is disgusting. But without citations, I can't ell if they're violating air Bylaws. I'm not one to research back over previous posts, but my memory is you've been complaining about this rotten board for several years. Correct me if I'm s wrong.

We've had serious corruption before. My first time on HOAtalk was about 9 years ago and two of the corrupt people I complained about then are on the Board now. The exact same two "who cares what the rules are" people are on the Board now. Along with their fellow travelers.

I actually took four of them to court in 2017; They spent HOA money without a majority vote of the Board as required by law. That case was dismissed without prejudice. They didn't stand for reelection the next year, although I can't definitively claim cause and effect. I know they slinked away for years but have now reappeared with the same old contempt for the residents and contempt for the restriction in the laws on their powers.

Here is what they didn't follow.

Section 6. Quorum. A quorum shall be deemed present throughout any meeting of the Board of Directors if a majority of the number of Directors is present at the beginning of such meeting. A decision of the Board of Directors shall be by a majority of those Directors present at a duly called meeting and every act or decision done or made by a majority of the Directors present at a duly held meeting at which a quorum is present shall be regarded as the act of the Board. The President may vote. If any Board of Directors meeting cannot be held because of the absence of a quorum, a majority of the votes present and voting may adjourn the meeting to a later time. The necessary quorum shall be required at the adjourned session. At any such adjourned meeting, any business which might have been transacted at the meeting as originally called may be transacted without further
notice."

I was actually on the Board so I knew the actions they took were not discussed or approved as required by law.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
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Let me try to understand this:

1. The Bylaws specify a range of Directors: no less than 5 nor more than 9.

2. At one time, all 9 seats were filled. However, due to various reasons there were only 6 directors sitting.
It is unclear when that occurred.

3. The Bylaws specify that the terms of the Directors are staggered.

4. Prior to the recent annual meeting, the sitting board chose to fill the vacant seats by appointment (authorized by corporate statute, O.C.G.A. § 14-3-811).
If interested, statutes are available via LexisNexis

5. Walter is of the opinion:
a) The membership should have elected to fill those vacancies vs. the board appointments
b) The current board filled the seats by appointment to maintain the controlling vote.

Walter, If I missed something or got it wrong, please correct.

Based on this understanding:

- Vacancies - If the seats were vacant due to a successful recall vote, I agree that the membership should vote to fill (I believe this is also supported by statute). However, if several years have passed (multiple membership meetings/elections), OR if the vacancies were due to lack of volunteers, then the board appointments were appropriate - PER STATUTE.

- Reason for appointments - Walter may very well be correct, the appointments were a political move to maintain power. Unfortunately, that is politics.

KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:

Thanks very much for the wording in your Bylaws for filling vacant seats: "Vacancies in the Board of Directors caused by any reason other than the removal of a Director by vote of the Members shall be filled by a vote of the majority of the remaining Directors at any meeting of the Board of Directors. Each person so selected shall serve for the remainder of the vacating Director's term..."

So it appears your Board adhered to your Bylaws when they voted in the three to fill the vacant seats. This also complies with GA law, as Tim shows.

I do understand what the Board is "trying to do" and agree, that their behavior is disgusting.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
So what should Walter and other homeowners do?

All of the maneuvering will not stop terms from expiring. Even appointed directors have to run for re-election. So those who are fed up with the nonsense need to prepare for a contested election and give it their best shot.

The bylaws giving homeowners the responsibility for electing owners also give them the responsibility for failing to take steps to fix issues like this.

A court won't invalidate an election unless there were identifiable illegalities. A court won't kick out the bad actors - the only ones who can do this are the homeowners. And the homeowners are the only ones who can make sure that the bad actors aren't elected again.

It sounds like the community as a whole needs to get fed up with the status quo and take responsibility for fixing it. Unfortunately too many are willing to put up with a fair amount of misbehavior as long as they personally don't have to do any work to change things.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
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Posted By CathyA3 on 02/29/2024 10:39 AM
So what should Walter and other homeowners do?

All of the maneuvering will not stop terms from expiring. Even appointed directors have to run for re-election. So those who are fed up with the nonsense need to prepare for a contested election and give it their best shot.

The bylaws giving homeowners the responsibility for electing owners also give them the responsibility for failing to take steps to fix issues like this.

A court won't invalidate an election unless there were identifiable illegalities. A court won't kick out the bad actors - the only ones who can do this are the homeowners. And the homeowners are the only ones who can make sure that the bad actors aren't elected again.

It sounds like the community as a whole needs to get fed up with the status quo and take responsibility for fixing it. Unfortunately too many are willing to put up with a fair amount of misbehavior as long as they personally don't have to do any work to change things.

This!

I say over and over again - two, three or nine board members can't hold an entire community hostage (especially the large ones) unless the homeowners themselves allow it. There are supposed to be 9 people on the board - how did it dwindle to three and how is it no one seemed to notice or run for a spot as they became vacant? I know there can be confusion as to when an appointed person took over a resigned director's spot - we had a similar situation years ago and ended up reviewing a year or two's worth of board meeting minutes to map out who came on when to determine who was up for election one year.

It's one thing to talk about suing the board and it may come down to that if they don't straighten out, but in the meantime, Walter needs to find like-minded homeowners and start a revolution. Start by reviewing the documents to see what they say about special meetings (you may need one before the next "election") to see how they're called. You'll need to follow instructions carefully because you don't want this going to court only to have a judge toss it on a technicality. That part may mean passing the hat to hire an attorney to guide you.

Don't forget, you'll also need to pound the pavement to speak to other homeowners as why they should care about all of this. Get busy, Walter and good luck to you.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
Posted:
Walter
You said:
Section 4. Vacancies. Vacancies in the Board of Directors caused by any reason other than the removal of a Director by vote of the Members shall be filled by a vote of the majority of the remaining Directors at any meeting of the Board of Directors. Each person so selected shall serve for the remainder of the vacating Director's term. Vacancies in the Board of Directors caused by removal of a Director by vote of the Members shall be filled by the Membership in accordance with Section 3 hereof.

Is this not saying the BOD was allowed to do what they did? Like who they appointed or not, it is their decision.

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