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LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
Some of the communities where I live are seeing an uptick in burglaries, thefts, and other mischief and it got me thinking.

In my job capacity, I see a lot of delivery drivers that use apps to deliver food, groceries, or packages for the A word company.
I see many of the drivers do not have a driver's license, no ID card, perhaps an ID card from a foreign country, yet they are
driving a car: That is not the point. First point, why do two or more people need to be in the car to deliver a food order to a house?

The same goes for the A word company Why two or more people in the car? Are these people casing homes in the community they are delivering to?
Not only that, a few of the high-end communities I deal with, the post orders for their guards are to get an ID to put in the "system" in case
of any issues, sometimes, and at an increasing number, these vehicles do not have a license plate, temporary tag, etc that identifies the vehicle.
The drivers that don't have an ID do not have a registration certificate or vehicle insurance card to ID the driver or the car. In these cases
the delivery driver is turned away at the gate and the homeowner is notified of the reason.

I might add too that some of these vehicles are not road-worthy and would not pass a DOT inspection in Texas, New York, or Pennsylvania.

These are just some observations, I just wonder if there are any connections between these drivers and the issues.
I have a friend in law enforcement tell me that some of these delivery drivers are being used and the person registered to use the app to
make deliveries is not the person making the deliveries. in law enforcement we use the letters JDLR Just Don't Look Right.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
Or maybe those same people you claim JDLR, are just poor working class trying to feed their families and pay their bills.

MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Sounds like a you problem and perception. As a woman, I would not want to drive alone delivering items. So there you got 2 in a car right now. In my hood, our addresses are so jacked up you may have to drive by a few times to find the place. Even I have done that recently in my own hood when looking for a house that was selling me a piece of furniture. People were giving me side eye as I drove by 3 times down the road. The furniture was to be on their porch and I did not get their address. So I was just driving by looking for furniture on a front porch. According to your statements, I could have been "staking out" the neighborhood.

At some point have to stop being so paranoid and worrying about what other people do. My hood is so obsessed with a similar mindset that I no longer walk my dogs in my hood. Why? They non-stop post ring cam pictures about a "dog/cat" in my yard. It's like every ring camera is aimed at my dogs butthole. Never the less the number of posts I see when mail delivery happens and packaged is accidently dropped... A salesperson comes to a door. A wrong delivery happens. It's just annoying at this point.

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CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
Off the top of my head:

* Safety. This is the big one, even in safe areas. Food deliverers in particularly are at risk.

* Training a newbie.

* Keeping the other person on task.

* Or they shouldn't have another person with them (distraction, etc.) and they're doing it anyway.

* Or the person with the app is outsourcing the task and engaging in a little entrepreneurship. If they can make a living that way and it's not against the law, then that's between them and their employer (who may not legally be an employer, these drivers may be contract workers).
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LetA on 02/15/2024 8:27 PM

First point, why do two or more people need to be in the car to deliver a food order to a house?

Safety would be the first thing that comes to mind.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
Posted:
I'm with Melissa - this may be more of a perception problem than reality. I've also seen food delivery people with someone else in the car, and as Tim and Cathy noted, safety is a big reason for it. It doesn't mean people are casing the neighborhood. There were two incidents in my area where one delivery person was carjacked and another one KILLED as they made deliveries, so I wouldn't blame a delivery person for having a friend along to stay safe.

I'm a single woman and have to be aware of my surroundings, but I decided a long time ago that I was going to continue to live my life regardless. You can't stay shut up in your house scared of everything that moves (partly because you spend all day watching nonsense on Faux News or Newsmush). That's why we've had incidents where people have been shot for going up to the wrong door or trying to turn around in a driveway because they made an honest mistake.

You need to focus on reality - if there's been an uptick in crime in your community, talk to the police about trends and tell homeowners what they could do to reduce the risk. For example, if you have a problem with porch pirates, encourage people to take note of the tracking number of packages to keep track of where they are. If there's a spot in the yard where the package can be left that's more secure, people can list those instructions when placing their order. In many cases, you can have the package delivered elsewhere and pick it up later.

If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
TerriS6 (California)
Posts: 3,284
Posted:
Deterioration of society. It's everywhere.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By TimB4 on 02/16/2024 5:39 AM
Posted By LetA on 02/15/2024 8:27 PM

First point, why do two or more people need to be in the car to deliver a food order to a house?


Safety would be the first thing that comes to mind.

The safety of the community doesn't count?
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By CathyA3 on 02/16/2024 5:10 AM
Off the top of my head:

* Safety. This is the big one, even in safe areas. Food deliverers in particularly are at risk.

* Training a newbie.

* Keeping the other person on task.

* Or they shouldn't have another person with them (distraction, etc.) and they're doing it anyway.

* Or the person with the app is outsourcing the task and engaging in a little entrepreneurship. If they can make a living that way and it's not against the law, then that's between them and their employer (who may not legally be an employer, these drivers may be contract workers).

What about the safety of the food being delivered? I have seen some pretty gross things these drivers do when handling food
even tho it is bagged up. I had one driver pull up smoking a blunt with food in the car. I didn't say anything to him.
I called the homeowner to let them know and the owner was very appreciative because they have sensitivity issues.

As the old saying goes. too many cooks in the kitchen spoils the sauce.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By LetA on 02/16/2024 6:14 PM
Posted By CathyA3 on 02/16/2024 5:10 AM
Off the top of my head:

* Safety. This is the big one, even in safe areas. Food deliverers in particularly are at risk.

* Training a newbie.

* Keeping the other person on task.

* Or they shouldn't have another person with them (distraction, etc.) and they're doing it anyway.

* Or the person with the app is outsourcing the task and engaging in a little entrepreneurship. If they can make a living that way and it's not against the law, then that's between them and their employer (who may not legally be an employer, these drivers may be contract workers).


What about the safety of the food being delivered? I have seen some pretty gross things these drivers do when handling food
even tho it is bagged up. I had one driver pull up smoking a blunt with food in the car. I didn't say anything to him.
I called the homeowner to let them know and the owner was very appreciative because they have sensitivity issues.

As the old saying goes. too many cooks in the kitchen spoils the sauce.

Out of interest, how does your posts address HOA issues?

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