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NicoleS13 (Texas)
Posts: 2
Posted:
A homeowner that owns seven properties here in our HOA has been in violation of putting in a sidewalk last year when he was the chairperson for the architectural committee. Our HOA president has known that the sidewalk has been a violation. It was not approved he just put it in . The HOA president has known about the violation of the sidewalk for the past year and would not allow anybody on the board to do anything about it because the president wanted to get reelected. Said we would do something about it when we all got reelected. At the first HOA meeting with two new members to the board one being the violators brother. They all agreed to grandfather it in. Not worried about all the other homeowners that have had violations and had to pay big money for them. Selective enforcement is definitely going on here. When I question the president of the Hoa he told me it’s rearview mirror stuff we’re going forward we’re not going back. So question is, is there a lawsuit that can be taken out against our board for selective enforcement? Can the board just grandfather a violation in? I thought the board was here to enforce violations and rules and regulations from the CCR‘s for every homeowner not just one in particular that owns several houses, and that has a brother on the board now. By the way
The brother did not recuse himself from voting in that vote for his brother to have this grandfathered in. Our hoa is corrupt. They voted me in as the architectural chairperson but now I have no legs to stand on because I can’t enforce anything going on in our neighborhood because nobody’s gonna pay attention. So nobody else can put a sidewalk in because now it would be a violation and they would get charged, but he doesn’t. I thought HOA was across-the-board. Everybody plays by the same rules, no matter how many houses you have..
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By NicoleS13 on 02/12/2024 11:38 AM
is there a lawsuit that can be taken out against our board for selective enforcement? Can the board just grandfather a violation in?
"Grandfather" is one of the most mis-used and abused words in the HOA lexicon. No, the board cannot just issue a variance; grandfather; or look the other way at a violation of the covenants.

The courts view covenants as "contractual terms." Like 99% of the time, the only way to lawfully modify the contractual terms is via an owners' vote to amend the covenants.

The board should have it pointed out to them that their action could be said to amount to an unlawful amendment to the covenants.

Also it is entirely possible your city would not approve the addition of more impermeable surface. Drainage is a big legal deal, Drainage is regulated extensively by city land use departments, per hundreds of pages of regulations. Do not hesitate to call the city and ask about what your neighbor did and whether he needed approval from the city to add impermeable surface.

A lawsuit against both the owner and the board would have traction, IMO. Hopefully an exchange between your attorney and the HOA's attorney would fix this violation before anyone gets serious about going to court.

The big question is: How much are you willing to spend to fix this? How confrontational are you willing to be (or has this ship already sailed?), inviting retaliation and harassment from the board down the road?
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
Posted:
Somewhere in your governing documents state the board has the final say on ARC submissions.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
Posted:
This kind of stuff is not unusual, unfortunately.

When it comes to enforcing the CC&Rs, nobody likes to live in a police state and ignoring things can result in a community going downhill. So boards usually try to aim for somewhere in the middle. The problem is that reasonable people can disagree about where to draw the line. And then you have the folks who play favorites or ignore things. So some level of selective enforcement will occur over time.

Grandfathering violations is also not uncommon when someone has made an expensive modification and the board doesn't want to play hardball with them. This can be a reasonable decision, because an irked homeowner may decide that it's cheaper or more satisfying to sue the HOA over the issue. Lawsuits cost everyone money, because assessments will rise to pay the HOA's attorney.

'Tis the nature of the beast.

TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
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Basically, your board chose not to enforce.

Although a board has the authority to enforce (just as every member also has authority to enforce), it's typically not a requirement that they enforce (just as members are not required to enforce).

Now, some governing documents do specify a requirement for the board to enforce. If this is the case here, it's a different issue.

Can someone else put in a sidewalk, have the board enforce and use selective enforcement as a defense to the enforcement action - YES. However, it would take a court case to decide if that would be a successful argument.

Can you bring action against the board for failure to enforce? Perhaps. Talk to an attorney to view your options.

Can you (or a group of owners) bring action against the individual for having the sidewalk? Yes. Again, talk to an attorney to view your options.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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What a sleazebag prez and Board you're stuck with Nicole. But legal action is not your only recourse and it would be expensive and time- consuming.

Anther option is to gather support from and unify with other owners who're sick of this Nasty bunch and vote some of them out at the next election. Yes, it takes lots of work and committment AND education about how HOAs work, but some of us have turned out HOAs around with this kind of dedicated Board action.

Your 3rd option, and I don't say this as if it's easy, but if possible, move.

Say, your name & writing style is familiar. did you post here a lot previously?
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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What a disgusting Board you're stuck with, Nicole. Yes, you can spend lots of time & $ on legal action.

Or, you can spend even more time + energy, but far less $ on uniting with your neighbors to vote out some of these sleazebag directors at the next annual election. We've succeeded in my hOA that way and so has at least one other regular poster.

Your only option is to--and I don't suggest this lightly--move if possible.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
What a disgusting Board you're stuck with, Nicole. Yes, you can spend lots of time & $ on legal action.

Or, you can spend even more time + energy, but far less $ on uniting with your neighbors to vote out some of these sleazebag directors at the next annual election. We've succeeded in my hOA that way and so has at least one other regular poster.

Your only option is to--and I don't suggest this lightly--move if possible.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
I agree you have a corrupt board.

Some declaration provide the board may declare an unapproved improvement is not a substantial violation of the declaration and not take enforcement action.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Really, Dean? How about citing "some" declaration's actual wording that a Board can decide that a violation is not substantial so doesn't matter? How would a board word such a decision, Dean?
NicoleS13 (Texas)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Great advice and thank you for taking the time to help me solve this issue. I really don’t know how I’m going to be head of architecture and write up homeowner violations. If they are going to open up this can of worms, then I guess our property values are going to go down because no one is going to take it seriously.
I was also told that anyone else that put in a sidewalk would be held to the CC&Rs

My boyfriend is an attorney so taking it to court is an option. Plus the other homeowner that has been getting fined left and right is also an attorney... Wonder what he would do with this information?
Thank you again
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 859
Posted:
Governing a HOA has all of the good along with the bad, just like a city. Your story reflects on the issues that make HOA's gain a bad reputation. Politics, and favoritism show up much more easily in an HOA since it is easier to see. Your President is only one member of the Board, start with a conversation with the Board at one of their meetings.

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