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SteveN6 (Georgia)
Posts: 1
Posted:
Hi, folks. I am a new HOA Board Member (we don't have an ARC, so the Board serves that purpose as well), and we recently had a request from an owner to paint their brick home a very light off-white - kind of the modern farmhouse style. The neighborhood is small (39 homes) and consistent - all large (4000 sq ft +) traditional homes with unpainted brick in various earth tones. The relevant guidance as I see it is found in our Design Guidelines and documented ARC Approval Process, specifically these passages (I left our the less relevant criteria):
- "Design decisions made by the ARC in reviewing applications are not based on any individual’s personal opinion or taste."
- Judgments of acceptable design are based on, but not necessarily limited to, the following criteria that represent in more specific terms the general standards of the protective Covenants:
- Design Compatibility - The proposed improvements must be compatible with the architectural characteristics of the applicant’s house, adjoining houses, and the neighborhood setting. Compatibility is defined as similarity in architectural style, quality of workmanship, use of like or similar building materials, color and construction details.
- Materials - Continuity is established by use of the same or compatible materials as were used in the original house. The options may be limited somewhat by the design and materials of the original house."

We initially turned it down with the explanation that it would create the only home in the neighborhood with a painted brick faƧade, and the only one that was white, and that therefore we were unable to approve it based on the fact that it would be very dissimilar to all other homes in the neighborhood. The homeowners, specifically the wife, is beside herself and appealing to the members who voted "no" (2 of us; only 3 on the Board at this point). She apparently hates their orangish brick and always has and says it "has" to be painted, so she wants to find a compromise and paint it an earth tone that would blend in better than the other houses.

We are without a doubt going to make either this couple or other homeowners mad, and my own opinion on whether this would be a good look or acceptable change for the neighborhood to possibly start trending toward is irrelevant, so I just want to make a decision that follows the guidelines. My gut feel is that a painted brick faƧade would still be too inconsistent when all other homes in the neighborhood have unpainted brick*. Am I being too rigid in my interpretation? What do you think?

* The petitioners have brought up a slight exception to this: one home in the neighborhood has a pair of painted brick columns framing the entry. My understanding is that this came about because the home originally had wooden columns and the homeowners requested building a brick faƧade around them using the same brick as the rest of the home. However, when completed they ended up using a different brick because they could not find the same brick. The HOA Board at the time thought it looked terrible and negotiated with the owners painting the brick on those columns to match the trim color as a compromise.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
I would put the vote up to the members. Maybe a majority want to paint as well. If not then they can see painting brick is not acceptable to the neighbors.

Former HOA President
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Perhaps staining the brick, vs. painting, can be an option the Board and owner can live with.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
Staining is absorbed into the brick and still allows the brick to breath.

Painting coats the brick and doesn't allow the brick to breath.
JackS20 (North Carolina)
Posts: 271
Posted:
my HOA used to debate petty crap like this. then I got on the board and found out we didnt' even have our park insured.

Just wondering if your HOA is the same?

yeah you are being too rigid imho.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
Sure the wife is angry. She had this great idea to make her home look better and you, the evil board, disagreed with her. She pays her HOA fees, taxes and mortgage - it’s her home and she should be able to do what ever she wants.

As a board member, I deal with this several times a year. You figure out about everyone gets angry when you turn down a request. So you give in and let EVERYONE do what they want or stick by your decisions.
MichaelS56 (Minnesota)
Posts: 859
Posted:
Our governing documents require an ARC. in that section it refers to conformity within the association. As an extension the ARC has developed and the Board approved architecture standards.
LoriM15 (Florida)
Posts: 1,009
Posted:
Decisions like this are very tough. It all comes down to the philosophical issue - do you want your community to stay the same "look" as when it was developed, or do you want to allow more individuality. The problem with allowing someone to paint the brick on their home is that there's no going back. The brick will always have to stay painted, but also any other home will have to be allowed to paint their brick. Then they will want to change the color of the trim, or the size or shape of the windows, or the style of the garage door, etc.

It's not a wrong answer to allow her to paint the house, but it is a decision that has a lot of consequences.

Just because the wife is angry about it should not change your decision as a board. Let her be angry - she knew the rules when (or should have paid attention to) when she moved in. People want what they want and stamp their feet until they get it, but you have every right to say no to preserve the continuity of the community.

Since it is a smaller community, you could do a survey and ask for opinions, but make sure you put on the survey that it is non-binding.

In our community, we have duplexes that originally were all the same three colors with white trim, identical landscaping and outdoor lights, garage doors, etc. Twenty years and some not very strict architectural committees later, they are all different colors (some don't even want to paint the same color as their other half), different roofs, different garage doors and very different landscaping. It looks like a completely different neighborhood. The same with the single family homes. I'm not sure which is better, but you need to decide which way you want to go and stick with it.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
In trying to visualize these 39 homes, I feel it would be unpleasantly jarring to see a whit brick home among all of the natural brick-color homes. "Compatibility" in your docs would be ruined. Tim's idea to perhaps permit a stain of a lighter (but not "off white") color might be OK.
DaveP8 (Oklahoma)
Posts: 47
Posted:
What would the painted brick look like in 4 or 5 years?

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