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GailK3 (Nevada)
Posts: 1
Posted:
Hello,

My family and I have lived in the same HOA for the past 30+ years. We never had stop signs and now we have 5 all within a very short distance. Our roads are considered private by the County as we maintain our roads and snow plow our own however, the HOA is above a community owned ski resort and the HOA does NOT have gates to enter therefore anyone can drive or walk through the HOA. (The HOA also allows short term rentals.) Two weeks ago the roads were extremely icy and a driver went through a stop sign (one that never has been there but this is season two for it) and destroyed the cluster mail boxes.

My question is this as I am very concerned the HOA will have liability as there were NO traffic studies conducted and it was an attempt to slow down cars. I am in Northern Nevada. Any insight would be appreciated.

Thank you.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,059
Posted:
The issue wasn't with the stop sign.

The issue was with the ice.
JohnH81 (Kentucky)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Since the Association property is considered private, I would doubt a traffic study would be necessary at all for Stop signs to have been installed. Having said that - this would be a case in which the Homeowners Association should file a claim for damages with the vehicle owner's auto insurance unless the owner wants to pay for the damages out of pocket.
JohnH81 (Kentucky)
Posts: 2
Posted:
Since the Association property is considered private, I would doubt a traffic study would be necessary at all for Stop signs to have been installed. Having said that - this would be a case in which the Homeowners Association should file a claim for damages with the vehicle owner's auto insurance unless the owner wants to pay for the damages out of pocket.
MelissaP1 (Alabama)
Posts: 13,836
Posted:
Who installed the stop signs? The reason being is that they may not be legally enforceable. There are a set of codes of your municipality that enforces the rules of the road. One may needed an ordinance on file with the city to have them recognized. Where did they even come from if they are not from an official resource that provides street signs? It's like a $10K fine for stealing a street name sign. It is even more punitive laws in place if you steal a Stop/yield or other road signs.

Also it's more of an insurance thing on the person's insurance than the HOA. The insurance company whom is to investigate the accident is responsible. Plus there are laws about running a stop sign. That would be a ticket from local law enforcement. Which they should know if that is a legal stop sign or not. It's important to know if those stop signs are actually legal.

I always say. If it wasn't for stupid people, we would NOT need street signs...

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ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
GailK3, many counties and cities regulate signs, including traffic stop signs, on private property. Contact the city and county and ask them to direct you to any ordinances that apply. Do the signs meet the requirements of the ordinances?

Once you find the answer to this, and post it here, I may have more to say, mostly in the vein of anyone who gets hurt will hire an attorney who looks for the deepest pockets. A HOA should dot all i's and cross all t's when installing anything that might possibly be a cause of injury, either directly or indirectly.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
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Posted By GailK3 on 01/24/2024 1:47 PM
Hello,

My family and I have lived in the same HOA for the past 30+ years. We never had stop signs and now we have 5 all within a very short distance. Our roads are considered private by the County as we maintain our roads and snow plow our own however, the HOA is above a community owned ski resort and the HOA does NOT have gates to enter therefore anyone can drive or walk through the HOA. (The HOA also allows short term rentals.) Two weeks ago the roads were extremely icy and a driver went through a stop sign (one that never has been there but this is season two for it) and destroyed the cluster mail boxes.

My question is this as I am very concerned the HOA will have liability as there were NO traffic studies conducted and it was an attempt to slow down cars. I am in Northern Nevada. Any insight would be appreciated.

Thank you.

In over 30 years a traffic study was never completed and you were never concerned about liability. How does a stop sign now make an HOA liable? If anything, the signs would reduce liability because the HOA advised you a stop at these points is prudent.

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