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ConnieM8 (California)
Posts: 8
Posted:
I could use some input.

I'm the president of an HOA in California. We already have our annual meeting scheduled in early February. After the agenda was issued, a homeowner submitted a request to have an exception made to our CC&R's regarding the rental cap.

I'm fairly certain that the Board will be the ones voting on whether to grant this exception and not the members.

Is it unusual or even allowed to combine Board business with a member meeting? Should we schedule a separate Board meeting to discuss and act on the request?

Thanks.

Connie
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
You should schedule a separate board meeting. It could be right after the annual meeting. But it must be distinct from the owners' meeting.

About 'granting an exception' to the rental cap:

The board does not have the authority to violate the covenants. If the wording in the covenant (for the rental cap) says the Board can grant exceptions, then okay. But lacking this wording, the board cannot ordinarily lawfully waive the enforcement of the covenants. In un-ordinary situations, involving say a resident with a disability, it's possible the board might be able to lawfully waive a rental cap.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
The owners' request is not appropriate for a members meeting. Instead, place this agenda item on a regular open board meeting agenda with wording that Owners who might want to attend will understand, i.e.,: What is is the "exception" the submitter wants to your CC&Rs? Owners do have the right to comment on such matters during your required (in CA) open forum.

Meanwhile, check with your HOA attorney. So far as I know, though this "exception" case may somehow be different, e.g., some kind of emergency is in play, the Board has no authority to make any exceptions to your CC&Rs.

In addition in 2021, your HOA should have made required changes to your CC&Rs re: rental caps and short-term rentals per new CA legislation, eff. 2022. I urge you to read https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/H/HOA-Rent-Restrictions-Prohibitions for the details.
ConnieM8 (California)
Posts: 8
Posted:
Thanks.

I kind of thought this should be handled separately from our annual member meeting.

Now you and the other responder have me wondering if we can grant an exception to the cap stated in our CC&R's. I don't see any mention of how to handle making any exceptions.

I think I may have to call the attorney who updated our documents in 2021 to get her take on this. We do have detailed language about rental caps (25%) and we are currently at 25% units being rented.
ConnieM8 (California)
Posts: 8
Posted:
Thanks.

I think I do need to contact our attorney. We do have new documents created in 2021 that do speak to rental caps and other regulations but I don't see in the documents how to handle requests for an exception.

On the other hand, I've found information online that indicates exceptions can be made. https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/E/Exceptions-Variances-Waivers

Now whether it's a good idea is another thing. I've found compelling reasons for the rental caps being in place.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By ConnieM8 on 01/18/2024 5:55 PM
I've found information online that indicates exceptions can be made. https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/E/Exceptions-Variances-Waivers

Now whether it's a good idea is another thing. I've found compelling reasons for the rental caps being in place.
Do not be casual about this. The qualifying phrase at the above web site "if circumstances warrant" is a land mine.

Boards cannot do anything they darn well please and assume that a court would agree that what they did is lawful. Case law is full of disputes where boards violated their own covenants and ended up costing the HOA a fortune.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
From the D-C.com you cited, Connie: "Recommendation: If a member requests an exception for themselves from the association's... recorded restrictions, boards .. should seek legal counsel before granting the request."

Whether you think the reason for the caps are "compelling, the caps are the law and it's good your HOA complied with the new statutes in 2021. Yes. Yes. Yes. Do consult with your HOA attorney who dealt with the new rental caps.
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
Posted:
Educate me a bit on CA HOA law. What does the HOA board have to do with a rent cap?
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By DeanJ on 01/19/2024 6:43 AM
Educate me a bit on CA HOA law. What does the HOA board have to do with a rent cap?
I think you are going to have to narrow this down more.

Some COA/HOA covenants limit the number of homes that can be rentals. To the extent the covenant does not conflict with statutes, the board is obligated to enforce this covenant.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
It's a complicated CA thing. To learn more than you want to know, visit https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/H/HOA-Rent-Restrictions-Prohibitions. You might find this site interesting, Dean, because many of the topics are helpful even when you're not in a CA HOA. Examples are RFPs/contracts, sample agendas and meeting minutes, and more. Poke around their fine Index.

The site is named after the CA HOA legislation called the Davis-Stirling Common Interest Development [CID] Act. Judge Stirling is a partner in the HOA law firm that compiles this excellence resource.
ConnieM8 (California)
Posts: 8
Posted:
Dean,

Here are a couple of paragraphs from our CC&R's on rental caps.

(b)  Limitation on Number of Non-Owner-Occupied Homes. Except as provided in this section, no more than 25% of the Homes within the Project shall, at any particular time, be leased or rented or occupied by anyone other than an Owner together with members of his or her household or temporary guests, such that at least 75% of the homes are Owner ­occupied.  

(c) Legacy Owners. An Owner shall not be subject to the rental restrictions in paragraph (a) and (b) above unless the rental restriction was effective prior to the date the Owner acquired title to their separate interest. (Civil Code Section 4741).
ConnieM8 (California)
Posts: 8
Posted:
I reached out to my attorney's office and was told she would get back to me next week. Stay tuned....
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Thanks for the promise to keep us posted, Connie!
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
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Posted By ConnieM8 on 01/19/2024 2:58 PM
I reached out to my attorney's office and was told she would get back to me next week. Stay tuned....
Nah. You all are going to do whatever. But you have not spoken of any extraordinary circumstances. The covenant is clear. The covenant does not conflict with Ca's new state law on rental restrictions (as far as the cap goes).

The request by the one owner must be denied, because granting it violates the covenants.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
Posted:
Hmmmm, wit, Connie, do you mean your reach out to your HOA's counsel? You're "my" attorney's office is a little scary for a couple of reasons.
ConnieM8 (California)
Posts: 8
Posted:
When I said I contacted an attorney I meant I contacted the HOA's attorney. I don't have a personal attorney.

And this D-S link makes it appear that boards can grant waivers. I don't think we should but it may be allowed. I'll know more after speaking with the HOA's attorney. https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/E/Exceptions-Variances-Waivers

ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By ConnieM8 on 01/19/2024 6:17 PM
And this D-S link makes it appear that boards can grant waivers.
... under extraordinary circumstances and with legal caveats.

I think all agreed to this already.

It's curious how you insist on continuing to ignore the qualifiers at https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/E/Exceptions-Variances-Waivers.
ConnieM8 (California)
Posts: 8
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I think I'm reading it differently than you are.

The full text is:

"Defined. A "waiver" is the voluntary, intentional surrender of a known right, claim or privilege. When it comes to CC&R restrictions, boards can grant an exception, variance, or waiver to the association's right to enforce the restriction if circumstances warrant.

Guidelines. Unless the circumstances are extraordinary, the granting of a waiver will often result in other requests for similar waivers. The following principles should guide the granting of waivers:
1. The waiver should not be a major deviation from your CC&Rs or rules, such as allowing an owner to have two 80-pound Pit Bulls in a condominium complex that restricts owners to one 20-pound dog.

2. The waiver should not change the character of your community (allowing a French Tudor house in a Spanish style community).

3. The waiver should be in the minutes of an open meeting with a full explanation of why the waiver was necessary and proper.
Under the Business Judgment Rule, directors must make their decision in good faith and in the best interests of the association.

Failure to Enforce. Failure by an association to enforce its restrictions can result in legal action by members against the association for its failure to enforce the rules or an involuntary waiver of the associations right to enforce its restrictions.

Recommendation: If a member requests an exception for themselves from the association's architectural guidelines or recorded restrictions, boards and architectural committees should seek legal counsel before granting the request."

It says "...boards can grant an exception.. if circumstances warrant". I don't know why you are saying you find my statements curious. I'm just stating what I am reading. I have said I am waiting for legal advice. I am not saying we should or shouldn't and I have said that I am inclined to disapprove the request if it's even allowed.

ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By ConnieM8 on 01/19/2024 10:14 PM
It says "...boards can grant an exception.. if circumstances warrant". I don't know why you are saying you find my statements curious.
As long as you include the qualifier "if circumstances warrant" and have a feel for how rarely circumstances can justify a variance, all is well, as far as my puny opinion is concerned.

I for one try to discourage directors from thinking that by law, they can do whatever they want. This is patently false.

ConnieM8 (California)
Posts: 8
Posted:
Ellen,

It feels like you're trying to pick a fight. I don't need this. I've explained several times that I reached out here for advice and I am reaching out to the HOA attorney. Nobody has said that our board feels like it can do whatever it wants.

I don't feel like your input is constructive any longer.

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