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AlH5 (New Hampshire)
Posts: 5
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I live in an over 55 community. We have our monthly board meeting on site, about 1 minute away by car for the furthest resident. When covid began the meetings went to Zoom. (they had not been that way prior) While it is convenient for some, it is no longer required. I'm just curious are your board meetings, live streamed or Zoom etc or is it in person only. Do you keep,any electric record or only the monthly minutes.

Personally as the new President of the board ( read did not say no loud enough) i find it a pain to worry about the meeting and the live audience. Just wondering if you film, record, or something in between..thanks as usual.
SheliaH (Indiana)
Posts: 6,964
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We aren't using Zoom - at this point, I think the board might consider it in case of extreme weather- much like what's going on in the Midwest right now. Otherwise if your meetings are on site (we use our clubhouse, which is within walking distance for most people).

Your comment about "finding it a pain to worry about the meeting and live audience"is interesting. If you're president, your job is to preside - this is supposed to be a business meeting, not a free for all. If your board has had issues with controlling behavior, it's time you develop some ground rules for everyone - and enforce them. If you have trouble keeping people focused on the agenda and/or not resorting to cussing or fistfights, maybe someone else needs to be president and run the neetings.

Not everyone has internet access, the connection might zone out for whatever, so using Zoom isn't necessarily a guarantee chaos won't ensue. Sometimes hackers can interrupt the meeting - during COVID, one of my church's virtual Bible study meetings was interrupted by someone showing porn.

Its OK to offer Zoom as an option, but I think the general procedure should be live meetings so people can meet and talk to board members in person. Kerry, a California poster, has posted a great set of rules from her community that's posted for every meeting. Hopefully, she'll respond to this and post them. If not, there are conversations on this website about conducting effective board meetings. Read a few, take some notes and bring them to your board to see what you can adapt.

If you make Zoom an option, I think the live session is enough, although some might post the most recent meeting on their website and drop it after a month. Whether you use Zoom or go live, you need to make the meeting minutes available and you already know they must be accurate, as they are the permanent legal records of the association.


If it is not right do not do it; if it is not true do not say it. Marcus Aurelius
JackieB4 (California)
Posts: 398
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CA (Davis-Stirling.com) NOW requires Zoom meetings. On-site remains optional. As a member of a Rogue Board, I insist on having a local location (my home) for the bimonthly (140 SFH) meetings. I post meeting signs at our 2 community entrances and on our bulletin board, and website. Covid-2020 stopped all gatherings and inadvertently took the fun out of being a friendly community. Local meetings seem to be bringing the "community" back to our HOA. It's also peaking interest in future volunteerism and leadership. Having both options is stellar.
DavidG45 (Delaware)
Posts: 994
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Posted By AlH5 on 01/13/2024 5:45 AM
I live in an over 55 community. We have our monthly board meeting on site, about 1 minute away by car for the furthest resident. When covid began the meetings went to Zoom. (they had not been that way prior) While it is convenient for some, it is no longer required. I'm just curious are your board meetings, live streamed or Zoom etc or is it in person only. Do you keep,any electric record or only the monthly minutes.

Personally as the new President of the board ( read did not say no loud enough) i find it a pain to worry about the meeting and the live audience. Just wondering if you film, record, or something in between..thanks as usual.

We do our meetings in person, but we broadcast it on Zoom and publish the recording.
RileyS (California)
Posts: 55
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Posted By JackieB4 on 01/13/2024 7:57 AM
CA (Davis-Stirling.com) NOW requires Zoom meetings. On-site remains optional. As a member of a Rogue Board, I insist on having a local location (my home) for the bimonthly (140 SFH) meetings. I post meeting signs at our 2 community entrances and on our bulletin board, and website. Covid-2020 stopped all gatherings and inadvertently took the fun out of being a friendly community. Local meetings seem to be bringing the "community" back to our HOA. It's also peaking interest in future volunteerism and leadership. Having both options is stellar.



In California, ZOOM meetings are not required - it's optional. The big change in the law that went into effect on the 1st is they no longer have to be 'Hybrid' meetings (where a physical location is required). Now they can be entirely Virtual - as long as you follow the requirements of the new law (tech support, etc)

https://findhoalaw.com/civil-code-section-4926-meetings-entirely-by-teleconference/

RileyS (California)
Posts: 55
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Posted By JackieB4 on 01/13/2024 7:57 AM
CA (Davis-Stirling.com) NOW requires Zoom meetings. On-site remains optional. As a member of a Rogue Board, I insist on having a local location (my home) for the bimonthly (140 SFH) meetings. I post meeting signs at our 2 community entrances and on our bulletin board, and website. Covid-2020 stopped all gatherings and inadvertently took the fun out of being a friendly community. Local meetings seem to be bringing the "community" back to our HOA. It's also peaking interest in future volunteerism and leadership. Having both options is stellar.



In California, ZOOM meetings are not required - it's optional. The big change in the law that went into effect on the 1st is they no longer have to be 'Hybrid' meetings (where a physical location is required). Now they can be entirely Virtual - as long as you follow the requirements of the new law (tech support, etc)

https://findhoalaw.com/civil-code-section-4926-meetings-entirely-by-teleconference/

JackieB4 (California)
Posts: 398
Posted:
Riley, did I use the wrong words? Zoom vs virtual? I appreciate any correction.
MarkM19 (Texas)
Posts: 1,459
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Riley,

In California, ZOOM meetings are not required - it's optional. The big change in the law that went into effect on the 1st is they no longer have to be 'Hybrid' meetings (where a physical location is required). Now they can be entirely Virtual - as long as you follow the requirements of the new law (tech support, etc)

This is just another reason why I am glad to be away from California. I personally have presided over 100 board meetings over the years and the most disruptive by a mile was zoom meetings. I won't go into a rant because I know it is a 50 50 proposition. I just know that I personally would never be on a board that has zoom meetings again.
JackieB4 (California)
Posts: 398
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Mark, I have also noticed that people tend to be more civil in person. My Rogue Board schedules our bi-monthly meetings at 4pm, (I am outvoted ) to have minimal attendance. Having the option of both takes the wind out of those pathetic sails. Thanks for the clarification.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By JackieB4 on 01/13/2024 9:13 AM
Mark, I have also noticed that people tend to be more civil in person. My Rogue Board schedules our bi-monthly meetings at 4pm, (I am outvoted ) to have minimal attendance. Having the option of both takes the wind out of those pathetic sails. Thanks for the clarification.
In california, if a director wants to attend virtually, and the bylaws and AOI do not prohibit virtual attendance, then the Corp Code statute requires the board to accommodate this. See https://www.davis-stirling.com/HOME/V/Virtual-Zoom-Meetings and Corp Code 7211 (a) (6).
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Appreciation your kind correction re: virtual/Zoom meetings, Riley.

Our 200+ unit condo building --elevator ride to the meeting room--went hybrid early on in Covid. Completely unlike MarkM's experience, ours has been excellent. We have about 25% landlord owners a couple of whom who live far away attend via Zoom. We have a pretty large population of owners over 60, who often want to avoid crowded enclosed spaces. I'd say our overall usual Owner attendance at monthly board meetings is about 15% higher with Zoom.

Once Covid eased, our directors stated traveling again and if in the US, they now attend by Zoom during their travels, so attendance is better. Imo, the more owners who attend, the better.

Our PM (property manager) would be able to mute any disruptive Zoom attendee, but that has never happened. Our HOA does not record any meetings.

What is your particular concern about presiding at meetings, AlH5? Does your HOA have a PM who helps with meetings?
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By RileyS on 01/13/2024 8:06 AM
In California, ZOOM meetings are not required - it's optional.
This depends. If a director can only attend by zoom, and the bylaws and AoI do not prohibit this type of attendance, then the Corp Code requires that the board accommodate the director's zoom attendance.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
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We now do our meetings via Zoom, there is a call in option, separate telephone number
just for call-ins.
WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
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Everything is zoom and all meetings are recorded and put on youtube unlisted. I just looked at the viewings and last meeting was looked at 14 times surprisingly, maybe because we cut dues in half. Most get 1 to 3 views.

vis ta vie
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
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Posted By LetA on 01/13/2024 2:06 PM
We now do our meetings via Zoom, there is a call in option, separate telephone number
just for call-ins.

Sounds like a member who wants to disrupt your meeting only need to release the date, time and number for a free ham online.

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