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VC (Florida(FS 720))
Posts: 118
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Let's say the board decided in December to have a special assessment for a project to be completed this year. Is there a time limit on when the obligatory community meeting should be held ? I know that an announcement must be mailed 14 days before such meeting, but is there a maximum time limit before the meeting has to be held ?

Thanks.
KerryL1 (California)
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Is this hypothetical? What document "obligates" the board to hold a meeting on this? It already would have been diecided via a board vote at an open board meeting, right?
VC (Florida(FS 720))
Posts: 118
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We had an open budged meeting at which a decision was made to collect a special assessment. However, the Florida law, in addition, requires another open meeting devoted to the actual assessment before collecting money:

"An assessment may not be levied at a board meeting unless the notice of the meeting includes a statement that assessments will be considered and the nature of the assessments. Written notice of any meeting at which special assessments will be considered or at which amendments to rules regarding parcel use will be considered must be mailed, delivered, or electronically transmitted to the members and parcel owners and posted conspicuously on the property or broadcast on closed-circuit cable television not less than 14 days before the meeting."

The problem is the board is procrastinating with having this second meeting, so no money can be collected yet.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By VC on 01/06/2024 4:54 PM
Let's say the board decided in December to have a special assessment for a project to be completed this year. Is there a time limit on when the obligatory community meeting should be held ? I know that an announcement must be mailed 14 days before such meeting, but is there a maximum time limit before the meeting has to be held ?
What "community meeting"?

The statute section to which you are referring is about board meetings.

Your questions in your posts in this thread do not make sense to me.

If the next board meeting is in July, then the board can send out notice of this board meeting on Monday, January 8 and meet the statute requirements.

VC (Florida(FS 720))
Posts: 118
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Sorry, a board meeting of course.

But you answered my question, thanks, despite the fact it does not make sense

The issue is a lot of homeowners are unaware of the forthcoming payments due to the special assessment, so I'd have them notified sooner rather than later. But, according to your answer, we can tell the homeowners on December 29th, "oh, by the way, you must pay this special assessment in two days!". Exaggerating of course.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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VC

Are you saying the BOD passed a Special Assessment without owners voting on it? It would be rare the BOD alone can do such.
VC (Florida(FS 720))
Posts: 118
Posted:
No.

A special assessment was suggested at the open budget meeting to repay borrowing from the reserve fund instead of rolling the repayment into monthly fees.

Now, another open board meeting needs to be scheduled in order to actually vote on the assessment. The assessment can be approved by the Board majority:

"any Special shall require the affirmative vote or written consent of a majority of the Board"
LoriM15 (Florida)
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Posted By JohnC46 on 01/07/2024 8:52 AM
VC

Are you saying the BOD passed a Special Assessment without owners voting on it? It would be rare the BOD alone can do such.

John, unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your viewpoint) in Florida most associations do not need a vote of the membership to levy a special assessment. There are specific notice requirements, but the board can just vote it in.

Florida gives a lot of power to HOAs and COAs in the statutes in regards to budgeting and assessments. In my experience, the only things that usually require a vote of the membership are changes to the governing documents. For example, our governing documents are in compliance with FS 720 and we can borrow money, vote in a special assessment, change the bylaws and rules and regulations, spend up to $100k on a project, and change the amount of capital contributions charged to new owners without any vote of the membership.

I'm lucky that my fellow board members are all reasonable people. Many associations are not that lucky and you can see that someone who wants to take advantage of an HOA or COA can do it pretty easily.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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So.... what is the answer here? It appears as though VC's Board must hold an open meeting of the Board for the Board to actually vote on this special assessment?? The notice for the meeting must contain info about the assessment. Is that right?

Are you on the Board VC?
VC (Florida(FS 720))
Posts: 118
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That's correct. I am on the board and want this matter to be done with, but the rest of the board members are dragging their feet with the meeting since Nov.
VC (Florida(FS 720))
Posts: 118
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Our bylaws do require a 2/3 majority of the voting members to change the bylaws, though.

As to the rest, you are right.
JohnC46 (South Carolina)
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Lori

You say the BOD does not need approval to levy a Special Assessment. Is this regardless of what it would be used for such as we need a new roof now or let us do an addition to the clubhouse?
DeanJ
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Posted By JohnC46 on 01/07/2024 10:39 AM
Lori

You say the BOD does not need approval to levy a Special Assessment. Is this regardless of what it would be used for such as we need a new roof now or let us do an addition to the clubhouse?

Variable by state and HOA, but in my HOA BOD has 100% power to pass a special assessment. No notice, no meeting, no homeowner approvals, no reason required. There is a cap on what the BOD can spend on a capital improvement without 60% approval.
LoriM15 (Florida)
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Posted By JohnC46 on 01/07/2024 10:39 AM
Lori

You say the BOD does not need approval to levy a Special Assessment. Is this regardless of what it would be used for such as we need a new roof now or let us do an addition to the clubhouse?

Our declaration caps the amount we can spend on anything without member approval at $100k. But yes, we could spend it on anything. The FL statute for both HOAs and COAs has the same procedures. As long as you post and send out a 14 day notice with the amount of the special assessment, the cost of the item or items you are spending it on, and a description of the items, you can pass it at a board meeting after the 14 day notice.

I'm sure many HOAs have tighter rules in their declarations. But those rules are not required by Florida statute. As I said before, our HOA statutes here lean heavily toward the HOA and not the homeowner. The condo statutes are a little tougher, but could still easily be abused. As another example, we don't need to even send out our proposed budget before we approve it at a board meeting. We have to send the approved budget out withing 14 days after we adopt it, but not before. We do send it out because we try to be transparent. Condo associations are required to send out the proposed budget 14 days before the meeting, so they have a little greater protection for the residents.
ElleN (Idaho)
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Posted By VC on 01/07/2024 4:58 AM
The issue is a lot of homeowners are unaware of the forthcoming payments due to the special assessment, so I'd have them notified sooner rather than later. But, according to your answer, we can tell the homeowners on December 29th, "oh, by the way, you must pay this special assessment in two days!". Exaggerating of course.
Huh? I do not see how my answer says any such thing.

All I know at the moment is that //one// of the requirements for the board to lawfully impose a special assessment is the aforementioned board meeting, with at least 14 days notice of the board meeting.

To comment on how soon after the aforementioned board meeting the special assessment can be due, I would want to see the bylaws and also scour FS 720.
LetA (Nevada)
Posts: 2,679
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Depends on how much you need. I have floated two ideas in order to raise the onhand capital to install surveillance cameras.
One is to temporarily raise assessments by 15% the state maximum we are allowed to raise assessments per NRS 116
or to have a special assessment of one quarter's amount of assessments which would cover the amount needed for this special project.

JohnC46 (South Carolina)
Posts: 14,265
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Lori

In our declaration it says the BOD can raise the Annual Assessment as much as the BOD wants. We do have to notify members via a new budget on or before 12/01 to to become effective 01/01. Owners could call for a Special Meeting and 51% OF ALL MEMBERS could disapprove the increase and if they so there is a automatic 5% dues increase.

As per Special Assessments, our Covenants say:
Section 4. The Association may levy special assessments from time to time if approved at a meeting by two-thirds (2/3) of the Total Association Vote. Special assessments shall be paid as determined by the Board, and the Board may permit special assessments to be paid in installments extending beyond the fiscal year in which the special assessment is imposed.

VC (Florida(FS 720))
Posts: 118
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"how soon after the aforementioned board meeting" is not the question. I know how soon from the bylaws.

The problem is delaying the meeting for no good reason.

Thanks anyway.

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