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JanetO3 (Florida)
Posts: 34
Posted:
Seems that our documents were 'renewed by vote of board of directors' in 2019 pursuant to Section 712.06, Florida Status (2018). However, renewal or 'revitalization' in that statute is 712.09 and 712.06 is the Contents of Notice. Not sure if I am splitting hairs here but our by-laws WERE amended nonetheless. Everything I read stays that there should have been a 75% vote of owners, but only 7 members of the BOD voted on the changes. All the following documentation was sent in one package as follows:

Governing Documents Table of Contents
• Declaration of Restrictions and Protective Covenants 26 Pages
• Articles of Incorporation 6 Pages
• By-Laws of Association 10 Pages
• Notices, Resolutions, Policies and Rules 16 Pages

It is very clear, in our own documents, that amendments require a 75% vote of owners. The issue has been brought up, and I am awaiting feedback from
our BOD. Three updates were made to our by-laws, referencing input from the 2006 Annual Owners meeting.

So, my question to this group is, and I realize a 'legal' opinion is needed. If the revitalization was not done correctly (by not having a 75% vote o the owners), does this mean that our documents are now considered unenforceable?

Has this happened to any other HOA or POA that you know of. We are considered a POA due to the fact we are not a 'mobile' home park but an RV resort with deeded lots, considered residential. No permanent structures allowed, although we all have Tiki huts, some of wall's but not all 4 sides, some have attached storage sheds (which are not allowed per our Restrictions and Protective Covenants), and a few 'other' non-Architectural committee approved changes. Side note: we have no active Architecture committee - no members.  
KellyM3 (North Carolina)
Posts: 2,239
Posted:
Hi Janet,

It may be that the 75% owner vote is to NOT renew your covenants/by-laws and, essentially, dissolve the HOA. I can't imagine a developer would build an HOA-based community and make it that easy to dissolve the HOA.
JanetO3 (Florida)
Posts: 34
Posted:
Hi, no intent to dissolve, more like an 11th hour rush to 'renew/revitalize' without fully understanding the implications of not letting the owners vote on it. DECLARATION OF RESTRICTIONS AND PROTECTIVE COVENANTS FILED IN MONROE COUNTY OFFICIAL RECORDS
AUGUST 10, 1989*

ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION INCORPORATED
AUGUST 3, 1989

BY-LAWS OF ASSOCIATION
ADOPTED AUGUST 11, 1989

The renewal/revitalization happened in July 2019. August 3, 2019 they would have expired. I just noticed that! Would not have time to take it to a vote.

WendyM5 (North Carolina)
Posts: 1,522
Posted:
send them a certified letter stating they did not follow the law and the amended bylaws are not valid.

Why didnt they just extend the old byalws? why did they amend them at the last minute?

do you have to pay dues? why does the revitilization concern you?

vis ta vie
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
Posted:
The covenants are considered a contract by the courts.

I understand in FL statutes, there is a five (5) year statute of limitations to challenge contracts.

see: Statute of limitations, waiver and covenant enforcement from a newspaper article written in 2014
DouglasK1 (Florida)
Posts: 2,046
Posted:
My understanding is that before the 30 year MRTA deadline, covenants can be "preserved" by a board vote. This needs to be done before they expire. After expiration, revitalization is required and that is more involved. Based on your second post, it seems that a legal preservation might have been performed.

Escaped former treasurer and director of a self managed association.
JanetO3 (Florida)
Posts: 34
Posted:
They wanted to make 3 changes to the by-laws from what I can tell. The President at the time has since sold his lot and it no longer there. We have to pay $5000 annual assessment. It concerns me because I am an owner.
JanetO3 (Florida)
Posts: 34
Posted:
I see they use the term 'renewed' when they filed them, however they did 'amend' them with 3 changes to the by-laws. So
how can you 'preserve' something if you amended without a 75% membership vote.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
JanetO3, if you want to get anywhere on this issue, quit talking about "bylaws." The MRTA does not apply to bylaws. It applies to certain covenants. The difference is enormous.
JanetO3 (Florida)
Posts: 34
Posted:
They were made aware of the concern last week. It was during a presentation to owners to
explain our covenants and by-laws and the 75% voting requirements. When the presenter
mentioned it for all amendments, I brought up the 'revitalization' or as they called it 'renewed'
by-laws. I read information from Florida Statues 712 which is referenced below. I sent him info
from 712 and he said he would review and get back to me. I believe they plan to circle back to the
President of the Association who signed the papers. He has since sold his property and is no longer
an owner.

RENEWED BY VOTE OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON JUNE ____, 2019 PURSUANT TO
SECTION 712.06, FLORIDA STATUTES (2018)
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JanetO3 on 12/28/2023 1:48 PM
When the presenter
mentioned it for all amendments, I brought up the 'revitalization' or as they called it 'renewed'
by-laws.
I think your adversaries' reference to "bylaws" confirms that they have zero understanding of what revitalization is; what it does; and how it is accomplished. Which may very well mean that they did not revitalize correctly and so the alleged revitalization is null and void.

If you want to force the issue, and to be able to discuss this intelligently with an attorney, then I suggest you be smarter than your adversaries. A lot smarter.

Note that 712 defines exactly which sort of covenants to which it applies. This is not about bylaws.

JanetO3 (Florida)
Posts: 34
Posted:
Let make one thing very clear. I have never referred to anyone as an 'adversary.' I was the one who pointed out in this forum that the by-laws were what were amended as part of the revitalization of all of our documents. The presenter was doing an overview of what constitutes the need to have a 75% vote of all the owners.

In fact, the presenter is a member of our BOD who is an attorney. He is only allowed to 'advise' since he is not licensed to practice in the state of Florida nor is he an expert in community associations and Florida Statues.

I do not understand your comment about 712. Our documents were revised referencing 712. I will post it again:

RENEWED BY VOTE OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON JUNE ____, 2019 PURSUANT TO
SECTION 712.06, FLORIDA STATUTES (2018)
JanetO3 (Florida)
Posts: 34
Posted:
Let make one thing very clear. I have never referred to anyone as an 'adversary.' I was the one who pointed out in this forum that the by-laws were what were amended as part of the revitalization of all of our documents. The presenter was doing an overview of what constitutes the need to have a 75% vote of all the owners.

In fact, the presenter is a member of our BOD who is an attorney. He is only allowed to 'advise' since he is not licensed to practice in the state of Florida nor is he an expert in community associations and Florida Statues.

I do not understand your comment about 712. Our documents were revised referencing 712. I will post it again:

RENEWED BY VOTE OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON JUNE ____, 2019 PURSUANT TO
SECTION 712.06, FLORIDA STATUTES (2018)
BarbaraK (Florida)
Posts: 36
Posted:
Florida says that the documents may be "preserved" by a vote by the BOD. However no amendments may be made without homeowner approval. Preserving the documents is a 3 step process and if done properly is legal.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
Posted:
Quote:
Posted By JanetO3 on 12/29/2023 3:54 AM

I do not understand your comment about 712. Our documents were revised referencing 712. I will post it again:

RENEWED BY VOTE OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS ON JUNE ____, 2019 PURSUANT TO
SECTION 712.06, FLORIDA STATUTES (2018)
That's nice. But fact: 712.06 concerns the revitalization of solely // covenants // concerning certain restrictions on //land use.//

Bylaws can be amended at any time by an appropriate vote as specified in the bylaws and the appropriate HOA/COA statutes and corporate statute (e.g. FS 617, FS 718 or FS 720). Per statute, bylaws are //not// "revitalized" using the procedures given in FS 712.

You need to seek the counsel of a well-qualified HOA attorney, specialized in MRTA. Plan to pay a lot as he or she explains the MRTA statute sections.

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