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DebbieP15 (Missouri)
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I am currently on a committee discussing changing the by laws. Less than 15% of the plate are undeveloped. The president wants to restrict the size of the houses that can be built on plate below his house. Can we change that when it affects so few people? The development has been in existence since the 70's. I believe we should place these restrictions for so few.
DebbieP15 (Missouri)
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Posted By DebbieP15 on 12/10/2023 1:21 AM
I am currently on a committee discussing changing the by laws. Less than 15% of the plats are undeveloped. The president wants to restrict the size of the houses that can be built on plats below his house. Can we change that when it affects so few people? The development has been in existence since the 70's. I believe we should not place these restrictions for so few.

CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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First off, the "bylaws" generally means how the association functions as a corporation: for example, they define how many directors and officers you have, what their duties are, rules for running meetings, etc. It sounds like what you're talking about are "covenants, conditions, and restrictions" (CC&Rs, or Declaration). Some states like Michigan refer to all of these things as bylaws, but that's not the norm. The CC&Rs are contractual terms, and anyone who buys in the community association agrees to abide by these terms when they sign the closing documents. It's why boards can take action against people who violate the CC&Rs - and often individual owners also have the right to sue a neighbor who's doing something he shouldn't be doing.

So, what you're talking about sounds like amendments to the CC&Rs, specifically adding more restrictions. The rule of thumb is that the board can't amend the CC&Rs - it requires approval from a majority of the owners, usually a super-majority (67% or 75%). Some amendments may require unanimous approval.

So, in short, no the president can't do what he wants to do. He's free to buy the adjacent lot and build a house on it himself *as long as that house complies with the current restrictions in your CC&Rs*. If your community currently requires all homes to be above 2500 square feet, for example, he can't build something smaller. If he did, there would be legal wrangling in his future, and he will no doubt regret his mistake.

Personal opinion: understanding this is pretty basic for a board member. The president is announcing that he doesn't know what he's doing or he doesn't care about obeying the rules.
CathyA3 (Ohio)
Posts: 6,299
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I didn't say so explicitly, but homeowners in community associations are free to legally amend their CC&Rs if some of the provisions are out of date, which may well be the case here. The only limitation will be complying with your state's current laws on these communities. Some states have two different sets of laws for condominiums and HOAs; some lump them together.

Your community would have to hire a lawyer to write the amendments in any case, and part of that person's job will be guaranteeing compliance with state laws. Given the age of the community, the board should be looking into this even without the business of the lot.
TerriS6 (California)
Posts: 3,284
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In California, the Declaration sets the standard on which the other governing documents are created. Does your Declaration reference building standards? Also, your Declaration should describe what is permitted on each separate interest. Ours all have to be treated ewually.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By DebbieP15 on 12/10/2023 1:21 AM
[minor editing by ElleN, for readability] I am currently on a committee discussing changing the by laws. Less than 15% of the [lots?] are undeveloped. The president wants to restrict the size of the houses that can be built on [the lots?] below his house. Can we change that when it affects so few people? The development has been in existence since the 70's. I believe we should place these restrictions for so few.
As others noted, this proposed change involves a proposed new restriction on land use. It would require an amendment to the HOA's covenants (a.k.a. "CC&Rs", "Declaration" and other terms), not the bylaws. Do you understand the difference? If not, ask questions about this.

Anyone who thinks the bylaws can be amended to impose this new restriction is being either cute, ignorant or both.

If the board does not understand this, urge the board to consult an attorney.

Finally and most importantly, it is highly unlikely that the covenants allow the board alone to amend the covenants. An amendment to the covenants would almost assuredly require a vote of the owners, pursuant to the covenants' section on amendments. You want to look up the latter in the covenants.

Typically a super-majority of owners must vote for such an amendment.

The fun part is that when any such proposed amendment is discussed among owners, someone can point out the interesting coincidence of the location of the lots affected relative to the president-director's house. I loathe directors who practice self-favoritism.

Someone might also point out that Missouri laws require might require the president-director to disclose this conflict of interest.
KerryL1 (California)
Posts: 14,550
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Another possibility is that Debbie is confusing Bylaws with Rules. This is very communion. But, to the main point, rules my not conflict with the CC&Rs/Declaration.. Your HOA must abide by them or amend them as others discuss.
TimB4 (Tennessee)
Posts: 21,062
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Debbie,

For such a thing to happen, you would need to amend the deed restrictions (aka: restrictions, covenants, the declaration and the Declaration of Covenants).

Typically, this takes 2/3 approval of all owners (including the owners of any vacant lots).
DeanJ
Posts: 1,786
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Check your declaration. If it provides for design standards the Board can restrict the size and characteristics of the homes.
ElleN (Idaho)
Posts: 4,420
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Posted By DeanJ on 12/11/2023 8:34 AM
Check your declaration. If it provides for design standards the Board can restrict the size and characteristics of the homes.
If the declaration of covenants yada gives the board the right to set sizes of homes, then I agree. But I do not think this is at all usual.

I can see (and have seen) declarations setting either a minimum size, a maximum size or both. If the declaration does this, then an owners' vote would be necessary to change this.

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